HELP! Ive been shooting up subs for 6 months and need to know how to get off!

[blakeshape]

Please help I have been shooting up suboxone for over 6 months now. God I know how stupid even when I decided to get help I put my self around someone whow was willing to try anything and here I am. Should I tell my Doctor I dont know if he will kick me out or not. Please I know there a bunch of people out there who have been through this please help. Also if you know what other drugs will help the withdrawl comming off suboxone please let me know. Thanks And GOD Bless!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! BLAKE

[blakeshape]

Please anyone p.m. me if you have any info to help me out it would mean a lot GOD bless

[endzoner]

i dont have any experience on subs how ever the smart thing would be to see your Dr on this , NO he wont kick you out .. you need help and he/she can get you the help you need .. dont try and do it alone that could be VERY dangerous . hope you go see um .. be honnest dont hide anything .. there professionals that can help you get help !

[Dee74]

Endzy is right - as I said to you on PM, the doctor is always the best first step.
Don't let fear discourage you from doing the right thing for yourself.

D

[cjsg]

The only thing I can think of is the following and it is going to require a lot of self control. How about either coming clean with your doctor and ask if might give you another chance to use the Sub as directed, or stop shooting the **** and use the sub and taper off of it as you were supposed to do in the first place. You know it isn't going to be pleasant to start taking it orally, but damn brother, where do you turn when you have managed to abuse the most used replacement drug. You may even consider going into a medical detox. If you aren't ready to stop chasing the buzz then no pill is going to be able to help you get off anything. And don't you have someone to give you your dose so you do not abuse them? Srry if I sound pissy, I just really am flabbergasted that drug addicts go in for sub treatment and walk out with a prescription to a narcotic and really think they are going to be able to control their own doses. I would reccomend going to any lengths to find someone to help you in that area because you cannot control this stuff. And it isn't because you are a bad person... we are just addicts.. we don't control our addiction. I think you know you are going to have to get serious here.. you are screwing up your chance for a pretty comfortable , slow detox through tapering. I guarantee you if you start the sub correctly and choose to take part in meetings or some outpatient program, that you will completely be able to handle tapering off subs. I dreaded the tapers but I found that the anxiety that I caused myself thinking about and dreading the tapers was, indeed much worse than the discomfort of the taper. Your mindset greatly influences your reality.. if you are really done with the buzz then you will be willing to put up with a little discomfort in order to achieve the end result.
I wish you luck, I really do... I can only tell you that I did the sub route, but from the beginning of the second week I surrendered control of my medication. I m ignorant, but I'm not so stupid that I would trust myself. I wonder sometimes if we don't almost already know what we are planning to do and thats why we don't give up the pills to someone else. In either instance, it isn't relevant here. If you want to use sub, either start taking them as you were ordered, go to a detox center and just get off the crap... all of it, or come clean with doc. If I were in your shoes, those would be the three things I would consider. Adding some sort of recovery plan is a good idea for most. Meetings, outpatient, or SOMETHING.
So far, life without subs isn't as bad as I thought it might be for me. If I can do it, geeesh anyone can... you just have to clear your head, get pointed in the right direction, and STOP the IV ing. Make the change man. You were strong enough to take some steps.. decide now that you are done and go ahead and follow through. I did IV as well I know how very hard it is to start even start thinking about taking something orally after having gone IV... but you absolutely have to if you intend on using the sub. If you cannot then your only viable option may be a medical detox as you cannot seem to adhere to any replacement therapy and any further maintenance/replacement therapy would only serve to lengthen your active addiction. Good luck.. please be careful and think long and hard about where you are headed and where you want to end up. Take care of yourself...do the right thing. With time you can and will be able to feel happy without ANYTHING I swear
Chris

[blakeshape]

Thank everyone for there support! I know we have all been there and I haven't got a buzz in a year so it not about chasing the buzz, I'm just so scared to tell the doc. I thought about going to another doctor and telling them what I'm doing just in case I'm in a small town there's only three docs that can write scripts for subs. My plan is to get as many subs from friends and the doc like 100 and get rid of all needles and sit here for 5 days and take suboxone when I go into withdrawl then work my way down. I would really love if anyone who has been through this or know someone who has been through this would give me advice. You know I use it as all addicts use there drugs when I get mad or happy or any emotion I'm just so use to that from the drug I started with its crazy, I take xanax but it makes me sleepy during the day. I know I can taper down taking it oraly I've done it I was down to 1\4 a day then discovered this the devil and I go to meetings we have to for my doctor. Thanks again and god bless

[christin1225]

Originally Posted by blakeshape

Thank everyone for there support! I know we have all been there and I haven't got a buzz in a year so it not about chasing the buzz, I'm just so scared to tell the doc. I thought about going to another doctor and telling them what I'm doing just in case I'm in a small town there's only three docs that can write scripts for subs.

blakeshape,
I understand your fear. I too live in a town where only three people can write Sub scripts and one of those doctor's programs if FULL! So, technically, there are only TWO... my PAST Sub doctor and my CURRENT Sub doctor. Obviously, my past doctor is past for a reason!

So... I have my current doctor who WILL discharge patients with a ONE-WEEK script for Suboxone if they relapse. I've heard other addicts (and doctors) insist that it's foolish to discharge an addict from therapy because they have acted as an addict. But, MANY doctors DO require patients to sign a contract that stipulates that abuse of the Suboxone or any other drug (I can be discharged for consuming alcohol), is cause for discharge. It is no idle threat with my doctor.

Although I encourage honesty with one's doctor, your idea to contact a back up doc in case you get kicked out of your current program is a prudent idea. We have a Sub patient on this forum whose doctor has abandoned his patients and from no fault of the addict, he is being put in the position of having to quit Sub c/t. As far as I'm concerned, my doctor's policy of giving someone a one-week script is no different from requiring them to quit c/t because finding another Suboxone doctor can be nearly impossible sometimes.

Therefore, I don't recommend acting hastily. Because I have never injected sub, I may not understand the effects. Doesn't the ceiling effect of bupe remain the same? Can't you just revert to sublingual adminstration of the drug and resume your Sub therapy? Many of us have abused our Sub in one form or another and then got back on board with therapy. Why the rush to get off Sub?

I take xanax but it makes me sleepy during the day.

Is your doctor aware that you're taking a benzo with Sub? Depending upon dose, this can be contraindicated.

[Forsaken12]

I thought that if you shoot suboxone, you go into withdrawal because of the Naloxone in it...

[christin1225]

Originally Posted by Forsaken12

I thought that if you shoot suboxone, you go into withdrawal because of the Naloxone in it...

Yep. But, I've heard that it can be extracted. Of course, I have no desire to know how it's done. So, I never asked anyone. I don't need that information swimming around in my head. THAT would not be good!

[lillie]

Originally Posted by Forsaken12

I thought that if you shoot suboxone, you go into withdrawal because of the Naloxone in it...

That's what I was wondering?

[christin1225]

Originally Posted by lillie

That's what I was wondering?

I've been told the same thing, which is definitely true, shoot Sub and the Naloxone will put you into withdrawal. However, as my post prior to your post reads, "I've heard that it (the Naloxone) can be extracted."

Knowing how addicts are, lillie, it certainly doesn't surprise me that someone has discovered how to get enough of the Naloxone out of the Suboxone that it would no longer be a deterrent. I have no personal knowledge of the process. I never asked the person who told me about it because, as I also indicated, "I have no desire to know how it's done...I don't need that information swimming around in my head."

I don't know about you, but I'm tempted enough by my limited drug knowledge. I don't want to know all the ways that I can abuse the medication that I'm hoping will help save my life. I hope that the OP, Blake, has found the help that he needs.