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| One Day At A Time Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: U.K.
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Hiya everyone, well first and formost just wanna say love this site- things like this particular archive of threads are so helpful for me in my recovery. Secondly i would like to ask for some advice/suggestions. I am curretly doing my step 1. I know i am powerless over alcohol and my lifes unmanagable. I have written down reasons for this- and many other things too (such as how i risked my life/ others through drinking). I can accept i am an alcoholic. But one little thing is sorta holding me back from completing this step. It's the fact that i have trouble with accepting i have a disease of the mind too- that when i want to drink, or my thoughts go a wondering down that path....it's my disease trying talking to me. I believe its true for others and can see how it must be for me too - as i often swore off drink- but would always find a reason to again and conveniantly forget all the mess it caused. Sometimes i cannot even say say why i did- i just did. I think it must be my pride- like the whole ego thing, me thinking "oh im not thaaat bad". It's silly when i think about it but its where im at. I just need to get past it- i've been asking my H.P for guidance with this and my sponser said i need to keep looking for identification at mtngs so i can see that i do have the mental obsessiona -and it's an illness in me. I can accept it's an illness- i can accept i am an alcoholic but i am having trouble accepting those things together for me!? It's confusing....! Anyone else struggled with this? Or have any suggestions? All will be aprreciated. Thanks. |
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| Thumper Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Los Angeles
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You said it yourself Uni " i often swore off drink- but would always find a reason to again and conveniantly forget all the mess it caused. Sometimes i cannot even say say why i did- i just did." Thats the mental twist, the obsession that someday, somehow we will drink like 'normal' people. |
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| Life the gift of recovery! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Home is where the heart is
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| I agree with Sugarspun. Here is my experience with how I have learned to answer these types of questions. I have learned that the best place for me to find an answer is in the Big Book. I have pulled several things out of it that I feel you might find useful. This first part deals with Step 1 (more of this can be found under Step 1; What the Big Book says about Step One. on this forum). Bill W admits defeat 8:9-11 (page number : sentance numbers) Quote:
Hank P. admitted defeat xxix:6 Quote:
Fitz M. made his own diagnosis xxix:16 Quote:
The authors have no intention of pronouncing us alcoholic. If we are alcoholic, perhaps we can see some similarity with ourselves in the doctor’s description of alcoholism. This comes from the chapter of the Big Book "The Doctor's Opinion." There is also a thread here discussing the chapter, here is the link http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...s-opinion.html xxix:1, 3, 5-6, Quote:
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Separating the physical, mental and spiritual aspects of the alcoholic condition helps us to more clearly see what is happening. The impulse to begin drinking is a different issue from the craving that results after begining to drink. The chapters "There is a Solution" and "More about Alcoholism" explore the impulse to begin drinking in great detail. _______________________________________ xxviii:2-3 Quote:
Doctor Silkworth's xxviii:15-20Classification of alcoholics xxviii:4-7 ----------Psychopaths xxviii:8-10----------Unwilling to admit. xxviii:11------------Believe that after a time they can drink again xxviii:12------------Manic depressive xxviii:13------------Entirely normal except when drinking Quote:
Abstinence: refraining from alcohol How or what we drink is not important. One of the most positive ways of determining if we are alcoholic is if we ever experience the phenomenon of craving after we start to drink. Non-alcoholic drinkers are always able to control how much they drink. We can ask ourselves if we are different from non-alcoholics. Do we have this allergy that results in an overpowering craving for more alcohol once we start to drink? Have we ever been able to stay abstinent before/ If we cannot control our drinking, cannot quit completely, and there is no treatment that will make us like the non-alcoholic drinker, what hope do we have? An alcoholic who continues to drink will become chronic. Medical science has no cure and considers us doomed. We cannot drink and live and no human power, ours or our doctors, can enable us to quit. We are seemingly hopeless. Remember this book is authored by more than one hundred men and women who have recoverd from this seemingly hopeless state of mind and body.
__________________ NOTE: All Big Book quotes are from the First Edition of the Big Book WHY DOGS LIVES ARE SO MUCH SHORTER THAN HUMANS: People are born so that they can learn how to live a good life -- like loving everybody all the time and being nice. Well, dogs already know how to do that, so they don't have to stay as long | ||||||||
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| Life the gift of recovery! Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Home is where the heart is
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Your welcome. Thank you for your contribution to our step study area. I am sure there will be someone else who has a similiar concern or question that you will help becuase you took a minute to post. It is nice to see the program in action; even when we may not realize we are giving back and sharing we ultimately are. You thread is an example of that. Keep up the good work.
__________________ NOTE: All Big Book quotes are from the First Edition of the Big Book WHY DOGS LIVES ARE SO MUCH SHORTER THAN HUMANS: People are born so that they can learn how to live a good life -- like loving everybody all the time and being nice. Well, dogs already know how to do that, so they don't have to stay as long |
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