Message Boards and Forums Directory

Go Back   SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information > Special-Interest Groups > Spirituality
Forgot Password? Join Us!
Register Blogs FAQ Calendar Arcade Mark Forums Read Chat Room [10]


Welcome to the Sober Recovery Community

Already registered? Login above ---^

OR

To take advantage of all the site’s features, become a member of the supportive Sober Recovery Community. Ads will no longer appear on the forums if you are a registered user



Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-17-2008, 06:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
Member
 
kari69's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 16
A course in miracles

I started attending a book study on "A course in miracles" a few months ago. I was wondering if anyone else out there has participated in this study and how they have applied it to their program. It has been extrememly helpful to me in my program as I have just completed my 5th step and I am working towards "willingness" to turn over my character defects over to a higher power. I found a website for this course with a 12 step program but I thought it would be good to hear others experiences if possible.
kari69 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2008, 08:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
the girl can't help it
 
splendra's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: splendraville
Posts: 5,495
Blog Entries: 3
Something That I read in the Course in Miralces that has stuck with me is:

It is not in another's actions but, in our own reaction that our salvation can be found.
__________________
nice has a hisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
splendra is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 05-17-2008, 06:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
Just a fool, swimming in love
 
Sunlight81's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 162
Cool I am not my body, I am free

Good stuff
Very Christian in terminilogy
Gotta be OK with the Holy Trinity thing
Loving, nonjudgmental
Text, workbook, long, slow and dry IMO
Manual for Teachers-heart warming
Marianne Williamson is good
Gerry Jampolski's 1st 3 books are even better:
Love Is Letting Go of Fear
Teach Only Love
Goodbye to Guilt

Interesting demographic
Basically Channeled Christianity
Most people who are into channeling are not into Christianity
Most Christians are not into channeling
Popular at New Thought Churches
__________________
It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential
is invisible to the eye.
Antoine de Saint-Exupery

Last edited by Sunlight81; 05-17-2008 at 06:21 PM.
Sunlight81 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 08:01 AM   #4 (permalink)
Member
 

Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Lotem, Israel
Posts: 1
A Course in Miracles

Quote:
Originally Posted by kari69 View Post
I started attending a book study on "A course in miracles" a few months ago. I was wondering if anyone else out there has participated in this study and how they have applied it to their program. It has been extrememly helpful to me in my program as I have just completed my 5th step and I am working towards "willingness" to turn over my character defects over to a higher power. I found a website for this course with a 12 step program but I thought it would be good to hear others experiences if possible.
Hey Kari,

I am attending the ACIM for the last 8 years. from my experience, it gave me all answers I needed. some of them were very hard to digest, but eventually IMO it is the best ladder I had in my life.
Will be glad to share.
Zulu is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 08-09-2008, 08:24 AM   #5 (permalink)
Ann
Forum Leader
 
Ann's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: By The Lake
Posts: 25,104
I attended three or four sessions fairly early in my recovery and it sort of went over my head. I still have the book and may take time to read through it again, maybe now I will be less confused.

Most people I know who studied it found it helpful in all areas of their life, much like the 12 steps are for me.
__________________
“Promise me you'll always remember: You're braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think.” ~Winnie the Pooh~
Ann is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-24-2008, 07:49 PM   #6 (permalink)
Member
 

Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: OKC, OK
Posts: 14
A Course in Miracles

The problem with this is that it's soooo deceptive. It's deceptive because it seems so right, feels so right, and reasonable and oh so spiritual. And after all, how could Oprah possibly be wrong? Isn't she almost a goddess herself?

The best thing to do is not take my word for it, but examine both sides of the picture....aaaaand, most of all pray, pray, pray about it and ask NOT to be deceived. Pray for truth , the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Google the flip side. There are plenty of warnings on the Internet against getting involved the least little bit with The Course in Miracles.

God bless everybody with eyes to see and ears to hear. And please don't just accept things because they sound good.

I hope people won't just get mad at me for speaking out. I would rather do that and warn people to keep them out of a deep ditch than win a popularity contest. I'm warning on this because I care.
GoldenSilence is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-25-2008, 01:42 AM   #7 (permalink)
Member
 
Missybuns's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,484
It's been a few months since the original post...how's it going?

I attend ACIM study group with my parents...one sunday a month.

I find it....A Course In Miracles.

It's helped me quite a bit. I was familiar with it even before I sought recovery. I no longer need to envy those who could put such humility and tolerance into their lives. When I got clean in 2005 I was able and willing to make the application of the principles which are astonishingly similar to the 12 step principles we learn to live our lives by. The 12 steps are a simple basic version and quite obviously very effective. A Course In Miracles contains the same principles only scribed in much more depth. I had no idea 12 steps would be the very principles central in ACIM....until I put them into my life.

I would say things that would cause my dad to say "you sound like you are quoting 'the course'....I knew he was talking about the principles written about in A Course In Miracles. My Dad is extremely relaxed and tolerant....he lives the principles and if I can ever be like him, I will have arrived! Today I know how he got there. I'm following in his footsteps.

I can't imagine what is deceptive about it.

Ever hear addicts in recovery say something like..."gosh I wish some normies would work a program!".....well lots of them do, they are students of A Course In Miracles. People who are students of ACIM are more likely not so noticable because they dont make much noise. They are not likely the ones we wish "had a program."

Then again there are those who "have been around the rooms" of 12 step programs but remain stepless. So yes there could be some that struggle with the basic principles who are students of ACIM as well.

It's easy to relate to 12 step programs due to the fact that what is referred to as the ego in The Course...is quite the same as what 12 steppers refer to as "the disease"

The course teaches that there is but one disease and that is separation.

Na literature often refers to addiction as a disease of isolation...much the same idea. I sure can relate to that!

There is a book out that is authored by a 12 stepper and also by a friend of his that talks about the principles in ACIM as they show up in the experience of the 12 step author as he shares his journey through his step work.

It's a cool book.
Short and simple to read too. Just one page on a step and the opposite page on the relating principle in ACIM. Honesty, openmindedness, willinginess, humility, and so on.

I will get the title and share that...it's downstairs I will get it later.

It's all spiritual stuff....the stuff that heals from the inside. Stuff recovering addicts need.

My journey has everything to do with how I accept my spiritual nature and how to nurture it.

A Course In Miracles makes much more sense and is quite uplifting in a connected way when discussed in a group setting...much the same as recovery groups.

The course teaches us all we have is the here and now. Much the same as recovering addicts are steered to learn to live in today. "Just for today"
As some may well know we learn to feel and accept what we are feeling as we go....that's recovery for an addict.

We really cannot get into yesterday or tomorrow...we can only feel love right now.

The course teaches us we can ask to see things differently at any given moment. All we have to do is ask.
If my dad hears me say something that is bothering me he says "you can ask 'how can I see this differently' "

He's right.

My folks have been students of the course for many years. Their study group has read the entire book and discussed it with each other. I find that quite amazing personally, as it is a lengthy and in depth text.

12 step and ACIM both cover the basic principles that bring peace and serenity into our lives.

I am an addict in recovery, a 12 stepper and student if A Course In Miracles

Much peace,
Missy

Last edited by Missybuns; 09-25-2008 at 02:04 AM.
Missybuns is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-05-2008, 09:49 PM   #8 (permalink)
Member
 
Missybuns's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,484
the title of the book I mentioned in my previous reply is

"The Twelve Steps"
"A Course In Miracles"

Side By Side

By
John Randolph and
Bette Martin Cundiff

first copyright printing was in 1986 and the 2nd in 1992

published by

Miracle Experiences & You Publishing
P.O. Box 64146
Tucson, AZ 85728
Missybuns is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 10-10-2008, 10:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
Member
 

Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2
Re: A course in miracles

It's hard to overcome the defects in their life's. Now that overcoming ll your defects. Nice to hear that. You were talking about course which yo found in a website. If possible post the link to me.
-----------------------
Karl Martin
karl232 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2009, 12:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
Growing.......Slowly.
 

Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Northern CA
Posts: 1
Quote:
Originally Posted by karl232 View Post
It's hard to overcome the defects in their life's. Now that overcoming ll your defects. Nice to hear that. You were talking about course which yo found in a website. If possible post the link to me.
-----------------------
Karl Martin
Hi Kate. The Course publisher's website is at: acim.org
A search for "Course Miracles" on Google will give you many other sites.

Good luck! Mark.

Last edited by MJF1989; 01-07-2009 at 12:49 PM. Reason: grammer
MJF1989 is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2010, 05:52 AM   #11 (permalink)
Member
 

Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2
Want to share some ACiM links I use.

Hi, my name is Luke - although I'm not attending meetings at the moment - I'm truly hooked on ACiM. Here is a list of my favourite links.

> >> ACIM FREE Audiobook - this takes you to a page full of audio-downloads from Robin (an ACiM student). Here you can download an audio A Course in Miracles (about 1.2GB). I've put it on an MP3 player - takes the hard work out of studying!

> >>
> >> Searchable "A Course in Miracles" Online - an online A Course in Miracles
> >>
> >> www.12stepmiracle.com - Today's Lesson - a site that gives the lesson of the day - part of a site devised for people who read A Course in Miracles (ACiM) and go to 12 Step groups.
> >>
> >> A Course in Miracles Workbook Lesson Insights - for a commentary on the lesson of the day.
> >>
> >> MiraclesOne Radio - A Course in Miracles - an internet ACiM radio station - nice mix of gentle music with some ACiM music and meditations.
> >>
> >> ACIM Gather - an ACiM talk radio station.
> >>
> >> YouTube - coursequickies's Channel - short videos of international students who read A Course in Miracles.
> >>
> >> A Course in Miracles and Bible Quotes - a site that compares quotes from the New Testament and A Course in Miracles.
> >>
> >> A Course In Miracles ~ ACIM Urtext Online Miracles Course. - helpful site where one can lookup or locate quotes in ACiM.
> >>
> >> A Course In Miracles - Awakening To The Memory Of Singular Awareness - another daily ACiM lesson site - click on the number of the lesson and it takes you to another page where you can download audios of the daily lesson or their daily section from ACiM.
> >>
All the best with your recovery and learning forgiveness.

Luke.
gatesluke is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 11:51 AM   #12 (permalink)
Member
 

Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2
Update to the links I posted.

Hi, my name is Luke - just wanted to update those links as the audio one has changed.

A Course in Miracles - audiobook Torrent Download - Here you can download an audio(talking book version) of "A Course in Miracles" (about 1.2GB). I've put it on an MP3 player - takes the hard work out of studying!

Searchable "A Course in Miracles" Online - an online A Course in Miracles.

www.12stepmiracle.com - Today's Lesson - a site that gives the lesson of the day - part of a site devised for people who read A Course in Miracles (ACiM) and go to 12 Step groups.

I Work Miracles.com - Working The Miracle of Unity - a community site with regular discussions plus chatroom

365 A Course in Miracles Lesson Insights - for a commentary on the lesson of the day.

MiraclesOne Radio - an internet radio station - nice mix of gentle music with some ACiM music and meditations.

ACIM Gather - an talk radio station.

YouTube - coursequickies's Channel - short videos of international students who read A Course in Miracles. (One student names himself "Master Teacher" - this title doesn't appear in ACiM and personally I believe that title should go to Jesus).

http://courseinmiraclesforum.com/acimbible.html - a site that compares quotes from the New Testament and A Course in Miracles.

A Course In Miracles ~ ACIM Urtext Online Miracles Course. - helpful site where one can lookup or locate quotes in ACiM.

A Course In Miracles - Awakening To The Memory Of Singular Awareness - another daily lesson site - click on the number of the lesson and it takes you to another page where you can download audios of the daily lesson or their daily section from ACiM.

All the best learning forgiveness, Luke.
gatesluke is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Old 09-19-2010, 12:27 PM   #13 (permalink)
boleon
 
Boleo's Avatar
 

Join Date: May 2008
Location: Detroit, MI
Posts: 3,102
Quote:
Originally Posted by GoldenSilence View Post

It's deceptive because it seems so right, feels so right, and reasonable and oh so spiritual.

God bless everybody with eyes to see and ears to hear. And please don't just accept things because they sound good.
Thanks for the heads-up GoldS.

I have yet to read CIM. However, if it makes me fell good, I already know it's gold-plated BS. In my experience, everything truly spiritual is either baffling, paradoxical or somewhat disturbing.
__________________


>>> If it makes sense - It ain't spiritual!

- All Big Book quotes are from first Edition -
Boleo is offline  
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiTweet this Post!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Currently Active Users Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:32 PM.


 
National Drug and Alcohol Treatment Centers
 
Drug Rehab | Best Treatment Center | Detox Center | Treatment Center | Cocaine Treatment | Alcohol Rehab | Heroin Treatment Center | Oxycontin Treatment Center | Crystal Meth Treatment
 
Local Treatment Resources and Events
 
Alabama | Alaska | Arizona | Arkansas | California | Colorado | Connecticut | DC | Delaware | Florida | Georgia | Hawaii | Idaho | Illinois | Indiana | Iowa | Kansas Kentucky | Louisiana | Maine | Maryland | Massachusetts | Michigan | Minnesota | Mississippi Missouri | Montana | Nebraska | Nevada | New Hampshire
New Jersey | New Mexico | New York | North Carolina | North Dakota Ohio | Oklahoma | Oregon | Pennsylvania | Rhode Island | South Carolina | South Dakota Tennesee | Texas Utah | Vermont Virginia | Washington | West Virginia | Wisconsin | Wyoming

© 2011 Recovery Marketing Services, Inc.
A proud member of the SoberRecovery® Network of Addiction and Recovery Websites

The SoberRecovery Forums are operated under an anonymous grant and is maintained by MyNew Technologies Development


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112