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| A course in miracles
I started attending a book study on "A course in miracles" a few months ago. I was wondering if anyone else out there has participated in this study and how they have applied it to their program. It has been extrememly helpful to me in my program as I have just completed my 5th step and I am working towards "willingness" to turn over my character defects over to a higher power. I found a website for this course with a 12 step program but I thought it would be good to hear others experiences if possible.
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| Just a fool, swimming in love Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: San Diego, CA
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Good stuff Very Christian in terminilogy Gotta be OK with the Holy Trinity thing Loving, nonjudgmental Text, workbook, long, slow and dry IMO Manual for Teachers-heart warming Marianne Williamson is good Gerry Jampolski's 1st 3 books are even better: Love Is Letting Go of Fear Teach Only Love Goodbye to Guilt Interesting demographic Basically Channeled Christianity Most people who are into channeling are not into Christianity Most Christians are not into channeling Popular at New Thought Churches
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I am attending the ACIM for the last 8 years. from my experience, it gave me all answers I needed. some of them were very hard to digest, but eventually IMO it is the best ladder I had in my life. Will be glad to share. | |
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| Sharing Our Light Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: By The Lake
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I attended three or four sessions fairly early in my recovery and it sort of went over my head. I still have the book and may take time to read through it again, maybe now I will be less confused. Most people I know who studied it found it helpful in all areas of their life, much like the 12 steps are for me.
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| A Course in Miracles
The problem with this is that it's soooo deceptive. It's deceptive because it seems so right, feels so right, and reasonable and oh so spiritual. And after all, how could Oprah possibly be wrong? Isn't she almost a goddess herself? The best thing to do is not take my word for it, but examine both sides of the picture....aaaaand, most of all pray, pray, pray about it and ask NOT to be deceived. Pray for truth , the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Google the flip side. There are plenty of warnings on the Internet against getting involved the least little bit with The Course in Miracles. God bless everybody with eyes to see and ears to hear. And please don't just accept things because they sound good. I hope people won't just get mad at me for speaking out. I would rather do that and warn people to keep them out of a deep ditch than win a popularity contest. I'm warning on this because I care. |
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It's been a few months since the original post...how's it going? I attend ACIM study group with my parents...one sunday a month. I find it....A Course In Miracles. It's helped me quite a bit. I was familiar with it even before I sought recovery. I no longer need to envy those who could put such humility and tolerance into their lives. When I got clean in 2005 I was able and willing to make the application of the principles which are astonishingly similar to the 12 step principles we learn to live our lives by. The 12 steps are a simple basic version and quite obviously very effective. A Course In Miracles contains the same principles only scribed in much more depth. I had no idea 12 steps would be the very principles central in ACIM....until I put them into my life. I would say things that would cause my dad to say "you sound like you are quoting 'the course'....I knew he was talking about the principles written about in A Course In Miracles. My Dad is extremely relaxed and tolerant....he lives the principles and if I can ever be like him, I will have arrived! Today I know how he got there. I'm following in his footsteps. I can't imagine what is deceptive about it. Ever hear addicts in recovery say something like..."gosh I wish some normies would work a program!".....well lots of them do, they are students of A Course In Miracles. People who are students of ACIM are more likely not so noticable because they dont make much noise. They are not likely the ones we wish "had a program." Then again there are those who "have been around the rooms" of 12 step programs but remain stepless. So yes there could be some that struggle with the basic principles who are students of ACIM as well. It's easy to relate to 12 step programs due to the fact that what is referred to as the ego in The Course...is quite the same as what 12 steppers refer to as "the disease" The course teaches that there is but one disease and that is separation. Na literature often refers to addiction as a disease of isolation...much the same idea. I sure can relate to that! There is a book out that is authored by a 12 stepper and also by a friend of his that talks about the principles in ACIM as they show up in the experience of the 12 step author as he shares his journey through his step work. It's a cool book. Short and simple to read too. Just one page on a step and the opposite page on the relating principle in ACIM. Honesty, openmindedness, willinginess, humility, and so on. I will get the title and share that...it's downstairs I will get it later. It's all spiritual stuff....the stuff that heals from the inside. Stuff recovering addicts need. My journey has everything to do with how I accept my spiritual nature and how to nurture it. A Course In Miracles makes much more sense and is quite uplifting in a connected way when discussed in a group setting...much the same as recovery groups. The course teaches us all we have is the here and now. Much the same as recovering addicts are steered to learn to live in today. "Just for today" As some may well know we learn to feel and accept what we are feeling as we go....that's recovery for an addict. We really cannot get into yesterday or tomorrow...we can only feel love right now. The course teaches us we can ask to see things differently at any given moment. All we have to do is ask. If my dad hears me say something that is bothering me he says "you can ask 'how can I see this differently' " He's right. My folks have been students of the course for many years. Their study group has read the entire book and discussed it with each other. I find that quite amazing personally, as it is a lengthy and in depth text. 12 step and ACIM both cover the basic principles that bring peace and serenity into our lives. I am an addict in recovery, a 12 stepper and student if A Course In Miracles Much peace, Missy Last edited by Missybuns; 09-25-2008 at 02:04 AM. |
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the title of the book I mentioned in my previous reply is "The Twelve Steps" "A Course In Miracles" Side By Side By John Randolph and Bette Martin Cundiff first copyright printing was in 1986 and the 2nd in 1992 published by Miracle Experiences & You Publishing P.O. Box 64146 Tucson, AZ 85728 |
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| Re: A course in miracles
It's hard to overcome the defects in their life's. Now that overcoming ll your defects. Nice to hear that. You were talking about course which yo found in a website. If possible post the link to me. ----------------------- Karl Martin |
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