George Best and all the rest
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the guy **** his liver and got a new one despite being an alcohlic and then **** the new one. wasted an organ which could have been for somebody who really nneed it. he got that organ because he was a celebrity. he was irresponssible and selffish and he pay the ultimate price. yes we all have our demons but why drag others with us. if you want to save yourself reach for help if you dont at least dont ask for a new liver after you **** your own.
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I wouldn't demonize Mr Best. We addicts/alcoholics do that sort of thing (in one way or another) all the time.
It took me a while to learn it, but I have found that what other people do has nothing to do with my recovery.
It took me a while to learn it, but I have found that what other people do has nothing to do with my recovery.
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I am not demonizing anyone Im an alcoholic too probably would have done the same Im just saying this is not the best eaxample for not recovering you keep down this road and you will do very despicable thigns. this is not the way too justify your innability to turn your life around. he didnt want to he loved the lifestyle homeless people recover without nothing when you waste so manny second changes it makes me mad some people have no second chaces. just sayng its sad to me.
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Hi Kaily
I don't believe anyone is beyond help...for every George Best, or people I could name in my own life, there are tens of thousands of success stories
I drank for as long as I wasn't totally committed to stopping.
I was looking for a way to drink my fill but not have any negative consequences.
From the moment I accepted that was impossible, things got better - the incredible effort I was putting into continuing drinking got diverted into staying sober instead.
anyone can do it - really
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I don't believe anyone is beyond help...for every George Best, or people I could name in my own life, there are tens of thousands of success stories
I drank for as long as I wasn't totally committed to stopping.
I was looking for a way to drink my fill but not have any negative consequences.
From the moment I accepted that was impossible, things got better - the incredible effort I was putting into continuing drinking got diverted into staying sober instead.
anyone can do it - really
D
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Join Date: Jan 2015
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Kaily - I'm sorry if I came off any other way. I absolutely believe you need to be in recovery right now. RIGHT NOW. Please, if anything I said made you feel otherwise then I take it back time one million.
I am only going from what I get through your messaging. I don't know and I can't know if you are truly ready to be done. I lay myself bare here on the boards and admit all that is me - in the hopes that it helps someone else. Sometimes I don't even know why I'm this honest.
But if you are asking me to give my absolute honest answer to you, here it goes:
You are alone. You became alone for a reason. You didn't become alone over night. You helped that cause. (as did many of us). You know you are an alcoholic (fantastic, step one). Stopping is harder than continuing (yes and yes again). Help seems distant, and the help you've seen isn't enough (haven't a lot of us been there? yep, yep yep). So you find yourself at a crossroads. If you are that alone, and I feel deeply for you if you are, it means that if you are truly ready, you will have to crawl there on your own. And be prepared to start understanding that alcohol may not be just your only issue (wouldn't that be easy and lovely? just kidding) . Doing this under your own power alone is daunting and crazy hard. No one is saying otherwise. I do believe you need to come out of it, to be sober, and to understand what your next steps are. Your next step is just to declare a day 1. That's all.
Day 1, then get an apt for analysis, and then whatever lies beyond that. You have no idea and neither do I. So please forgive me if you think I've minimized that. SInce entering AA I've entered into treatment for both an eating disorder and for bipolar disorder. Those are things I drank away. Now I have to deal with them as a sober person. I DO NOT TAKE ANY OF THIS LIGHTLY. I can't say this enough
Please get to this apt and then take care of yourself with whatever plan makes sense to YOU. You can find the right way there, and there is NO one right way there.
I am only going from what I get through your messaging. I don't know and I can't know if you are truly ready to be done. I lay myself bare here on the boards and admit all that is me - in the hopes that it helps someone else. Sometimes I don't even know why I'm this honest.
But if you are asking me to give my absolute honest answer to you, here it goes:
You are alone. You became alone for a reason. You didn't become alone over night. You helped that cause. (as did many of us). You know you are an alcoholic (fantastic, step one). Stopping is harder than continuing (yes and yes again). Help seems distant, and the help you've seen isn't enough (haven't a lot of us been there? yep, yep yep). So you find yourself at a crossroads. If you are that alone, and I feel deeply for you if you are, it means that if you are truly ready, you will have to crawl there on your own. And be prepared to start understanding that alcohol may not be just your only issue (wouldn't that be easy and lovely? just kidding) . Doing this under your own power alone is daunting and crazy hard. No one is saying otherwise. I do believe you need to come out of it, to be sober, and to understand what your next steps are. Your next step is just to declare a day 1. That's all.
Day 1, then get an apt for analysis, and then whatever lies beyond that. You have no idea and neither do I. So please forgive me if you think I've minimized that. SInce entering AA I've entered into treatment for both an eating disorder and for bipolar disorder. Those are things I drank away. Now I have to deal with them as a sober person. I DO NOT TAKE ANY OF THIS LIGHTLY. I can't say this enough
Please get to this apt and then take care of yourself with whatever plan makes sense to YOU. You can find the right way there, and there is NO one right way there.
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Nobody is beyond help Kaily. You have to be wiling to do whatever it takes to endure the cravings. You have to be willing to formulate a recovery plan that you are active in. Finally, you have to accept that drinking is not an option under any circumstance.
We all may have varying degrees of addiction but anyone who has succeeded in getting sober all went through the above. We all still wanted to make the excuses, lie to ourselves, and say screw it when cravings started.
The only way we got where we are was to refuse to take that drink. You can do the same but not until you remove the excuses.
We all may have varying degrees of addiction but anyone who has succeeded in getting sober all went through the above. We all still wanted to make the excuses, lie to ourselves, and say screw it when cravings started.
The only way we got where we are was to refuse to take that drink. You can do the same but not until you remove the excuses.
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Hi Kaily.
Poor George Best, such a talent he had and unfortunately he was an alcoholic who wouldn't stop.
I was like him too. But I so wanted to drink normally, just at a weekend or a wedding, socialising, not secretive, like how I did it. I wasn't willing to sacrifice my 'enjoyment/hell' of drinking. I couldn't see a future without a drink!
But I did it. I stopped. I now dont crave it like I did when I first stopped. Time's a great healer. But it all starts with day 1.
All the best, and remember you can do this....if you want to do it.
Poor George Best, such a talent he had and unfortunately he was an alcoholic who wouldn't stop.
I was like him too. But I so wanted to drink normally, just at a weekend or a wedding, socialising, not secretive, like how I did it. I wasn't willing to sacrifice my 'enjoyment/hell' of drinking. I couldn't see a future without a drink!
But I did it. I stopped. I now dont crave it like I did when I first stopped. Time's a great healer. But it all starts with day 1.
All the best, and remember you can do this....if you want to do it.
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