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03-21-2009, 12:47 PM
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| sentient puddle  Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Essex, UK
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Apparently there isn't much recovery here, I find that hard to believe. I'm sure there is a lot of sobriety here, so i thought it would be a good thread. What works for you? How do you stay sober? Perhaps it would also be a good place for general advice and techniques for anyone with a drinking problem who doesn't want a religious program. I'll start the ball rolling! Some things that really help me are; meditation - namely metta bhavana and mindfulness of breathing considering the consequences of drinking cost / benefit analysis remembering the last / worst drinking bout sweet treats - especially luxury ice cream contact with other addicts - either face to face, on the phone, here, etc reading endeavouring to be good / kind to myself and others
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03-21-2009, 12:59 PM
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| Never settle.  Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Under immense pressure
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I focus on school. Through the worst of my drugs and drinking, even though I did not pay as much attention to school as I would have liked, it was one of the few things I had going in the right direction. I let it slip a little but luckily not to a disastrous level. When I become tempted to go get some drugs I remember the feeling I had seeing police lights in the rear view mirror and knowing I was drunk enough to get a DUI, had just snorted a line of meth, and had the remainder in the car at that moment. I knew I was going to jail and it was a minor miracle they let me go without even a ticket. As I drove away from that incident something changed it my brain. I was trying to stay off drugs anyway, but that was when I knew I was DONE. And ever since then it has not been half as tempting.
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03-21-2009, 01:11 PM
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Spark...nice thread. I think it is so difficult to give others a set of instructions, like aa feels they do on how to achieve lasting sobriety. I don't go to meetings, I don't call other alcoholics, I don't use a sponsor, read the bb or work any steps. What I do is not drink...I have learned to live life without the need to sedate myself. I exercise, eat right, work on improving myself, and live the life I was intended to live. Simple plan and it works 100% of the time. I really dislike the notion that the people who post here are in the minority...facts are more people quit drinking on their own than in any "program".
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03-21-2009, 01:17 PM
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SR...read/post/chat AA...er godless buddhism....meditation and reading of texts health....eat right get enough sleep utilize the dr and take my medications dogs
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03-21-2009, 01:25 PM
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I use RR and CBA when I get a craving for opiates or alcohol.. And I also try to remember the *horrendous* withdrawals from opiates. I like to read a lot about addiction/drug abuse as a phenomenon as well. For example, a of articles have been published lately about the rise in binge drinking across Europe. That seems to re confirm my beliefs about addiction not just being an internal thing, but also influenced by culture and perspective. I don't know why that helps me lol, but it makes the problem seem more manageable if I separate the "problem" from me, rather than put the me in the problem...
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03-21-2009, 01:35 PM
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| sentient puddle Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Essex, UK
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I wasn't aiming for a set of instructions, but thought it would be interesting as a discussion and topic, and helpful too! Also i thought it would be interesting to hear others' sobriety techniques, regardless of whether it's one day or ten years..
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03-21-2009, 02:04 PM
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I will start by saying if I drink my wife will leave me and that is all the motivation that I need. I am creating my own program from several sources. First source was a combo of the BB and rational recovery. Phase 1 realize that if I start drinking I am toast and committ to never having that first drink ever. Period. Not negotiable. Phase 2 Get my self image in shape by exercising and meditating. The meditating consists of a 4-4-8 breathing exercises only: nothing spiritual Phase 3 Making amends for my actions. The only one I hurt was my wife and to a lesser extent my kids. I am finished with this with my kids and my wife is a work in progress but it is getting better Phase 4 Getting rid of the things that hinder my life and jeopardize my journey. Right now I am working on tolerance. There is plenty of spots around here to practice this. I have also reduced my ignore list down to one. This is a definite work in progress with a long way to go. When I have that under control I will identify other things. Phase 5 This has to do with finding new things to occupy my time other than the bar scene. I will start on this as soon as I get farther along in Phase 5. This is as far as I have gotten. 
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03-22-2009, 06:19 AM
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03-22-2009, 09:19 AM
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Too late to retrospectively edit my original post, but just wanted to add- "what works for you? How do you stay sober, or avoid picking up the first drink?" i just think that's a bit clearer.
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03-22-2009, 12:01 PM
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[QUOTE=spark42;2158611]Apparently there isn't much recovery here, I find that hard to believe. I'm sure there is recovery here ! I know I'm recovering, I think we all are. On the road to recovery, say we fall and scrape our knees, that won't keep us off the road, all we need to do is pick ourselves back up and continue. Now as to what helps...that depends on the day. But keeping busy, never letting myself get hungry or thirsty, never letting myself be in a situation where I am tempted(and that's sometimes tough) Reading SR seems to be working for the moment. On the road again.... |
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03-22-2009, 12:06 PM
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03-22-2009, 12:12 PM
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03-22-2009, 12:24 PM
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ughhhh ronald reagan.. I'm glad I was too young when he was President to be infuriated at him.
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03-22-2009, 01:33 PM
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 can't attach images for some reason... Just google "grange hill just say no" and you'll see what i'm on about... Incidentally i was at a rave / party in the early 90's and "ro-land" was there! Anyway... Back on topic!
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03-22-2009, 01:53 PM
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Ha! Well linked! Awful, absolutely hilarious - that was number 1 in the singles chart over here, can you believe it? They went to the states and met the reagans too! Grange hill was a kids drama tv programme - hence the... er... interesting singing... "ro-land" is the large chap with the glasses.
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03-22-2009, 04:19 PM
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What was Rolands girlfriend called the one who used to call him Ro land lol
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03-22-2009, 06:05 PM
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| sentient puddle Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Essex, UK
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Can't remember... Too long ago! Probably left those brain cells in a field somewhere...  *attempts to drag thread back on topic*
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