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02-15-2009, 09:41 AM
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| ٩(-̮̮̃•̃)۶  | surrender “My friends, no matter how rough the road may be, we can and we will, never, never surrender to what is right.” - Dan Quayle (  LOL...potatoe) I like to use the word surrender in the context as don't give up in even in the face of overwhelming odds. I do not care for the concept of surrendering as in abandoning hope or submitting to the power of another.
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02-15-2009, 12:19 PM
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Oh no, not Dan Quayle. He's one of my favorites: "Mars is essentially in the same orbit . . . Mars is somewhat the same distance from the Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If oxygen, that means we can breathe." "The Holocaust was an obscene period in our nation's history. I mean in this century's history. But we all lived in this century. I didn't live in this century." And my absolute favorite: "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system." Anywho.... Another phrase would be "real alcoholic".
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02-16-2009, 05:27 AM
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Other than the ones that are obviously (or even subtly) religious in nature I don't have a problem with most of it - I just try not to get caught up in the AA buzzwords. It is tough sometimes though.
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02-16-2009, 06:34 AM
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It works if you work it. (does that mean I'm not powerless??? lol)
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02-16-2009, 09:07 AM
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| Resident  Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Toronto, Ontario
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This one hurt me the most Take the cotton out of your ears and put it in your mouth Another assault charge is all I needed at this point. 
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02-16-2009, 09:30 AM
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| Knucklehead  Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA
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02-16-2009, 11:47 AM
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Really, most AA cliches get on my nerves. But here're a few that really bug me . . . Meeting makers make it! Stick with the winners! Fake it til you make it! Religion is for the people who are afraid of going to Hell; spirituality is for the people who've been there. Change or die! Get Off The Pity Pot! Bend your knees before you bend your elbow. Some must die so that others can live. |
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02-16-2009, 12:03 PM
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Maybe the title of this thread should be "let's Rip on AA" because my secular friends that's exactly what is going on here. Whatever path your road to recovery is , negativity does not help. Yeah, this will probably irk some of you, so be it. I read this forum a lot, because when you guys aren't talking about how much AA sucks, I actually learn quite a bit. Seriously, where is a thread like this going to go? Some place positive? not likely. Alcoholics and addicts suffer from a sense of separation already, this kind of stuff perpetuates those feelings. I respect you guys are not down with AA, God, or the program, fine by me. I only chimed in because these posts do nothing to promote a healthy attitude towards life, regardless of what brand of recovery one chooses. WE all need to think about this, myself included. |
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02-16-2009, 12:08 PM
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| Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA
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Rob, if society didn't force this stuff on us on a regular basis, there would be no need for us to blow off some steam. Unfortunately, that is not the case... unless we want to completely isolate, we are constantly bombarded by this type of thinking. Some of us do go to meetings and read the 12-Step forum, where our types are lumped in with convicts, liars, thieves, and dream destroyers. And if we stand up for ourselves, we are thrown out of meetings and have our posts removed. Right now, I'm actually having 12-Step treatment being forced on me by the Department of Health and Human Services of WA state. So... I need a place to vent!
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02-16-2009, 12:27 PM
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| Huntington's Disease Awareness  Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Cook County, Ill
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DK, sorry you are having a negative experience with AA. However, this forum is to discuss Secular Recovery not to bash any other program. For this reason I'm locking this thread. Let's put some positive stuff out here on Secular Recovery.
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