To My Secular Friends - Page 5 - SoberRecovery : Alcoholism Drug Addiction Help and Information

zencat · 08-29-2008, 02:39 PM

Congratulations!

zendust · 08-31-2008, 07:09 AM

The Four Noble Truths:

» The Truth of Suffering (a better word might be "stressfulness")
» The Truth of the Cause of Suffering
» The Truth of the End of Suffering
» The Truth of the Path leading to the End of Suffering

The Eightfold Path Leading to the End of Suffering:

» Right Understanding
» Right Thoughts
» Right Speech
» Right Action
» Right Livelihood
» Right Effort
» Right Mindfulness
» Right Concentration

I find these teachings useful in my recovery and closely related to the intentions of the 12 steps. They both are to be practiced and close attention must be paid to what you are doing and thinking (heedfulness).

doorknob · 08-31-2008, 08:43 AM

Day 12, BTW.

zendust · 08-31-2008, 08:49 AM

Good work! Keep it up...a day at a time, of course.

JigOvLife · 08-31-2008, 08:51 AM

Well done chap!

ananda · 08-31-2008, 09:05 AM

DK - thats great! what seems to be working to help you along? I know you guys are really helping me alot right now...setting some boundries really for myself more than for others is helping me too.

doorknob · 08-31-2008, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ananda

DK - thats great! what seems to be working to help you along?

Pissing people off, postin' in the womens forum, etc...

Jus kiddin'.. Honestly, right now, I really want not to drink. This site, and especially this forum help me feel the sense of belonging that I lack in the real world (thanks homies) and take up a great deal of time where I would be bored and wanting to drink or smoke something. And I'm reading, thinking and exercising my brain. Other than that, beats the hell out of me!

ananda · 08-31-2008, 09:25 AM

I can relate..if i am interacting with people i will no doubt manage to **** someone off at some point...but everyone is so supportive tht I manage to get past it.

One of the things that is funny to me is that despite how many people find that overthinking leads them to drink...I have found that if I am thinking about things I have much less desire to drink. Sorta a contridiction cause sometimes i need to let my mind just shut up...

I was going through a thing (maybe still am but much less) of "everyone is against me" lately...but you know, there were always enough people here at SR to connect to and relate to to keep the feelings from dragging me back to a drink...although it was touch and go for a while there.

doorknob · 08-31-2008, 09:40 AM

Keep coming back.

doorknob · 08-31-2008, 08:18 PM

I'm seriously thinking I should just set my bookmark to come staight to this forum and never venture out...

ananda · 08-31-2008, 08:32 PM

Awww...DK....

As much as we would like to keep you here to ourselves

I think when I am feeling sensitive I back off for a while and recenter.

doorknob · 08-31-2008, 08:37 PM

Thank you. I think after I projectile vomit, I'll feel better.

Bamboozle · 08-31-2008, 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ananda

One of the things that is funny to me is that despite how many people find that overthinking leads them to drink...I have found that if I am thinking about things I have much less desire to drink.

For me, both are true. It just depends on what it is I'm thinking about. If it's my life situation, LOOK OUT! If it's anything else that exercises my brain, that's a good thing.

ananda · 08-31-2008, 08:46 PM

Now THAT is interesting! I think i see that...if i am thinking about philosophy or social psyc. or politics...it seems to help me to not get into drinking thoughts. I can even be applying concepts from those type of things to my life....wow.....not sure where that is going to, other than that i definately am one of those who thinks more than most are comfortable with....makes conversations dificult too

doorknob · 08-31-2008, 08:50 PM

Who exactly does 'most' refer too?

BTW, I added a few new pics to my photo album.

doorknob · 08-31-2008, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doorknob

I'm seriously thinking I should just set my bookmark to come staight to this forum and never venture out...

With the exception of the womens forum, of course.

Bamboozle · 08-31-2008, 08:59 PM

DK, you weren't checking out that thread on Hell, were you? Hmmm?

doorknob · 08-31-2008, 09:00 PM

Nah.. I accidentally posted twice in it the other day though.

ananda · 08-31-2008, 09:18 PM

DK...you are after my heart! A dog person!!!! I'll forgive the cat...they're cute but cats don't like me.

and you know me the most people was better than saying everyone (which is what i would have said a few days ago!)

**Alera** · 09-01-2008, 12:57 PM

Just so you all know, I went ahead and removed the double posts this morning, making this thread shorter. I also removed posts that referred to the post not being removed. I did NOT remove any posts with content about the original Buddhist post.

If you would like a post removed in the future please just send me a PM. Thank you.

**Alera** · 09-01-2008, 02:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ananda

Now THAT is interesting! I think i see that...if i am thinking about philosophy or social psyc. or politics...it seems to help me to not get into drinking thoughts. I can even be applying concepts from those type of things to my life....wow.....not sure where that is going to, other than that i definately am one of those who thinks more than most are comfortable with....makes conversations dificult too

Sounds a bit too familiar. I finally learned to have two faces, my smart face and my dumb face. Otherwise I have found myself in awkward situations where people will ask me to do things for them, especially at work, because they know I have the information they are missing.

ananda · 09-01-2008, 02:36 PM

I run into more trouble with the large number of people who seem to do best by just doing things by route (is that the right word?) and don't do well if they have to look at any but the black and white. I have to remember though to focus on how important it is for ME to think things through and do all the thinking stuff and NOT focus on trying to get other people to see how complex things really are....when I focus on getting others to get my veiw...i end up feeling disconnected and frankly a drink starts to sound good.

So if i just remember to processs through things my own way and allow others to do it thier way without so much judgement, it really helps.

Sorta a rant there....

My day is going ok. I can't say I'm happy....but i feel just a little bit more centered. There are enough things going on in my life right now that i there would probably be something wrong with me if I didn't feel pretty uncomfortable right now!

doorknob · 09-01-2008, 08:15 PM

But I'm not superstitious... it brings bad luck!

Bamboozle · 09-01-2008, 08:25 PM

That's great, DK!

08-29-2008, 02:39 PM	#101 (permalink)
zencat Double Trouble Addict Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ventura Co. California USA Posts: 1,117 Blog Entries: 7	Congratulations! __________________

08-31-2008, 08:43 AM	#103 (permalink)
doorknob Happy Solstice! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 2,263	Day 12, BTW. __________________

08-31-2008, 09:40 AM	#109 (permalink)
doorknob Happy Solstice! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 2,263	Keep coming back. __________________

08-31-2008, 08:18 PM	#110 (permalink)
doorknob Happy Solstice! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 2,263	I'm seriously thinking I should just set my bookmark to come staight to this forum and never venture out... __________________

08-31-2008, 08:37 PM	#112 (permalink)
doorknob Happy Solstice! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 2,263	Thank you. I think after I projectile vomit, I'll feel better. __________________

08-31-2008, 07:09 AM	#102 (permalink)
zendust things as it is Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 236	The Four Noble Truths: » The Truth of Suffering (a better word might be "stressfulness") » The Truth of the Cause of Suffering » The Truth of the End of Suffering » The Truth of the Path leading to the End of Suffering The Eightfold Path Leading to the End of Suffering: » Right Understanding » Right Thoughts » Right Speech » Right Action » Right Livelihood » Right Effort » Right Mindfulness » Right Concentration I find these teachings useful in my recovery and closely related to the intentions of the 12 steps. They both are to be practiced and close attention must be paid to what you are doing and thinking (heedfulness).

08-31-2008, 08:49 AM	#104 (permalink)
zendust things as it is Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: New York Posts: 236	Good work! Keep it up...a day at a time, of course.

08-31-2008, 08:51 AM	#105 (permalink)
JigOvLife refusing to grow up Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Republic of Yorkshire Posts: 366 Blog Entries: 1	Well done chap!

08-31-2008, 09:05 AM	#106 (permalink)
ananda Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,237	DK - thats great! what seems to be working to help you along? I know you guys are really helping me alot right now...setting some boundries really for myself more than for others is helping me too.

08-31-2008, 09:25 AM	#108 (permalink)
ananda Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,237	I can relate..if i am interacting with people i will no doubt manage to **** someone off at some point...but everyone is so supportive tht I manage to get past it. One of the things that is funny to me is that despite how many people find that overthinking leads them to drink...I have found that if I am thinking about things I have much less desire to drink. Sorta a contridiction cause sometimes i need to let my mind just shut up... I was going through a thing (maybe still am but much less) of "everyone is against me" lately...but you know, there were always enough people here at SR to connect to and relate to to keep the feelings from dragging me back to a drink...although it was touch and go for a while there.

08-31-2008, 08:32 PM	#111 (permalink)
ananda Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,237	Awww...DK.... As much as we would like to keep you here to ourselves I think when I am feeling sensitive I back off for a while and recenter.

08-31-2008, 08:46 PM	#114 (permalink)
ananda Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,237	Now THAT is interesting! I think i see that...if i am thinking about philosophy or social psyc. or politics...it seems to help me to not get into drinking thoughts. I can even be applying concepts from those type of things to my life....wow.....not sure where that is going to, other than that i definately am one of those who thinks more than most are comfortable with....makes conversations dificult too

08-31-2008, 08:50 PM	#115 (permalink)
doorknob Happy Solstice! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 2,263	Who exactly does 'most' refer too? BTW, I added a few new pics to my photo album. __________________

08-31-2008, 08:59 PM	#117 (permalink)
Bamboozle Watch out...it'll fool ya! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Currently in a butt-support device Posts: 893 Blog Entries: 6	DK, you weren't checking out that thread on Hell, were you? Hmmm? __________________ What I do isn't what I want for myself. I am not my job. I am a hot, steaming, stinky, goopy, bacteria-filled lump of humanity. That is all for now.

08-31-2008, 09:00 PM	#118 (permalink)
doorknob Happy Solstice! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 2,263	Nah.. I accidentally posted twice in it the other day though. __________________

08-31-2008, 09:18 PM	#119 (permalink)
ananda Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,237	DK...you are after my heart! A dog person!!!! I'll forgive the cat...they're cute but cats don't like me. and you know me the most people was better than saying everyone (which is what i would have said a few days ago!)

09-01-2008, 12:57 PM	#120 (permalink)
Alera SR's SMART Goth Mod Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SoCal Posts: 1,899	Just so you all know, I went ahead and removed the double posts this morning, making this thread shorter. I also removed posts that referred to the post not being removed. I did NOT remove any posts with content about the original Buddhist post. If you would like a post removed in the future please just send me a PM. Thank you. __________________ Copyright © 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008 Alera The addiction will protect itself ... AT ALL COSTS.

09-01-2008, 02:36 PM	#122 (permalink)
ananda Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 6,237	I run into more trouble with the large number of people who seem to do best by just doing things by route (is that the right word?) and don't do well if they have to look at any but the black and white. I have to remember though to focus on how important it is for ME to think things through and do all the thinking stuff and NOT focus on trying to get other people to see how complex things really are....when I focus on getting others to get my veiw...i end up feeling disconnected and frankly a drink starts to sound good. So if i just remember to processs through things my own way and allow others to do it thier way without so much judgement, it really helps. Sorta a rant there.... My day is going ok. I can't say I'm happy....but i feel just a little bit more centered. There are enough things going on in my life right now that i there would probably be something wrong with me if I didn't feel pretty uncomfortable right now!

09-01-2008, 08:15 PM	#123 (permalink)
doorknob Happy Solstice! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 2,263	Day 13 But I'm not superstitious... it brings bad luck! __________________

09-01-2008, 08:25 PM	#124 (permalink)
Bamboozle Watch out...it'll fool ya! Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Currently in a butt-support device Posts: 893 Blog Entries: 6	That's great, DK! __________________ What I do isn't what I want for myself. I am not my job. I am a hot, steaming, stinky, goopy, bacteria-filled lump of humanity. That is all for now.