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Old 10-26-2008, 01:06 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Subadone, Chronic Pain Anyone?

Ok. I fell of a latter 2 years ago working in the factories. I was presribed both vicoden and motrin. I have been on vicoden for 2 years. I've never abused them! I Have had several sergeries with tumors that have developed, and had some torn legiments. I still have pain and therefor have been diagnosed with chronic pain. My leg gives out, I cry myself to sleep ect... Anyways I talked to my doctor about concern of longer term use of the vicoden. I have deveoped a tolorance to the drugs and therfor it takes 100 every three weeks. at one point I was at 120 bi weekly.. He says I am not addicted, But have a high tolorance and therefor I am "Physically dependant". Reason being is I was prescribed both oxycotten & Oxycodone and didnt like the way it made me feel.. (Feels kinda like the anxiety attacks i get) So I gave them back. Anyways My doctor has given me the choice to go through a detox with this sabadone (something along those lines). According to what I research it has same chemicles that methadone has. I've seen the bad things methadone has done to close people. What is approach for pain management? I have no side effects taking the vicoden as prescribed as well as learned to manage staying at the 100 every three weeks. Working on trying to make them last a month which my doctor says would be excellent being thats not much giving my condition. Has anyone taken this new Subadone? Would it be better for pain? ect.. Now I've withdrawled once when i Was in nc from not having my vicoden and it was bad. Actually was hospitalized with high blood pressure and seasure like symptoms at the time. When they gave me the vicoden, It went away so I learned that you can seriously withdrawl from meds. Will this happen from subadone as well? any info between the 2 vicoden and subadone would be nice to know. As with any choices I wish I would have knew more about vicoden before i was first administered it, and dont want to make this same mistake with this subadone. I am afraid of acting like people on methadone I know. Thanks! I have 2 kids that rely on me, and suprisingly even when I first started the vicoden I didnt get like some people who take it. Should I expect to be normal on the subadone? Any help would be GREATLY appreciated as I dont and repeat dont want to get all high and buzzed like some people "experiementing" with these pain meds. I aint got time to do that. I am a 25 year old with lots of knowlege and dont wanna waist it getting messed up on drugs. I have legitimate pain and its hard to do normal day to day activities without any type of pain medication (I've tried long before I started taking anything)
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Old 10-26-2008, 06:47 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi and welcome to SR. Sorry I don't have any experience with what you are seeking information from but I did want to acknowledge your post and suggest if you have any pain management clinics in your area that perhaps you write all your concerns down and ask them to help you figure out the best way to approach managing your pain in a way that won't make you act strange, won't damage your liver and will allow you to lead a productive life. Sorry but that's the best suggestion I have, perhaps others may have better ones to share but I truly wish you the best!

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Are you talking about Suboxone? I find that it works pretty well for migraine pain, really takes the edge off it. It isn't as effective for me as oxy, but it doesn't get me dozy or high at all. It isn't like that. It also completely takes away all withdrawal symptoms if you are opiate dependent and if you take it properly. However, and this is a big however, it does cause physical dependancy. Just as other opiates/opioids. Never having taken methadone, I can't tell you if it is easier to kick than methadone, but everyone who has taken both say that suboxone is much easier to detox from. I always functioned really well on it, just like on nothing at all pretty much. And I didn't feel as deprived tapering as I did from tapering off oxy. This is a huge decision for you to make.

Even though are sure you are just dependant, I advise you to check out your local NA or AA meeting for a little support going through this. You may find that you have more in common with us "messed up" addicts than you think. Many of us in recovery are nice, responsible parents who got our habit off of pain pills legitimately prescribed.

I thought I was just "drug dependant" too, until I tried to get off prescribed oxys. Then I found I needed some help. That's just my story, may be different from you. Good Luck and do your research before you choose your medication.
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Yeah sounds like you are talking about suboxone - I have not been on it, but have talked to a few about it. It contains the opiode and naloxone (which is the drug EMS pump you with when you OD to send you into withdrawl). This mixture makes it impossible to really OD and get high -- but I have to imagine that attempted abuse of it could make you rather sick.

Each drug will hit you differently and it is hard to predict how tolerant of suboxone you will be.

Personally --- I wouldn't mess with it if you don't have a drug problem and can get by on the lesser drugs. I don't know you, so really cannot tell how the drugs are effecting your daily life, but I'd advise hitting up an NA meeting and talking to people there. We are not all your sterotypical homeless crack addicts - there are a lot of us who have never met a drug dealer without a PhD within the rooms. The many nurses I have met in the NA rooms have been a huge help in talking about medication for my chronic pain.
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dude how old are you? did you go to school. there was about 100 mispelled words. i wish you luck my friend. education is paramount and the key to all your dreams. its out there all in books. everything you ever wanted to know, its all right there for free at the library.

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Hey, MROBI, give the guy a break. He has a bigger issue than mispellings at this point in his life.
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