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| Giving sober life a chance Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Clifton Park
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| It is getting worse! My knees are in so much pain the past few days. I guess I have arthritis. It use to be mostly my right knee. Now it is both and it feels like they are broken. They ache...hurt real bad and make it very hard to move without looking like a duck. Dr only wants me to take 800 Ibuprofen. We all know why that is. But they arent doing anyhting anymore. So Yea..I really dont want any pain meds. I dont like pills and we all know where narcs will end up. Especially with me. ANything anyone knows of that will help me? I dont have any money and need to do somehting. I feel like I am in a cold sweat at times and turning white it hurts so bad. No heating pad...I am at a loss. I just want to dull it at the very least at this point. Let me add I am not asking for medical help. Just maybe some home done remedies. Like propping ym legs up or soemthing like that. |
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| To Life! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: centered again
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| Chi, My mom has Rhumitoid arthritis; has had it most of her life. Yet, until the last 6 years, she was walking, swimming, dancing, gardening, etc. She also took ibprophren. Six years ago, after my dad died, she had a big flare up, and it never went away, though. But, she knows that by keeping active, that kept her limber and going. My aunt has the same thing. She takes Humera, one of the "miracle" drugs for RA. It's non narcotic and she swears by it. I have osteo arthritis on both knees. I also have torn ligaments on both knees and water on one of them. As long as I keep my legs muscles built up, and in decent shape, they support my knees, and then the knees don't hurt as badly. Eventually, I will need to have something done, but, for now, it's working out. I know cortosteroid shots into the knees can help significantly. Knee replacement, which my mom finally had to have, is an option too. Osteobiflex, an over the counter pill that builds up the cartiledge in the knee does help me too. I hope others come and share their wisdom with you for your relief. Shalom! |
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| Giving sober life a chance Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Clifton Park
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| I dont know...Talking to my Dr is like talking to myself. I really do think it is time to find another. But when I told him I went to Urgent Care one time he got mad. Well what the hell am I suppose to do when he is only in the office 3 days a week. All that is in his mind naymore is that I am an addict. So I feel that is effecting me. And that I may not get the care I could or should need in regards to that. I am in alot of pain today as well. I dont know. I have so many other things to take care of this week. I wont have time to figure this out until sometime next week. Guess I will just have to deal with it for now. |
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| Leap of faith survivor Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: In the pines, in the pines....
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| Chi, I have osteoarthritis in my knees as well... Doing exercises to strengthen your thigh muscles in particular, will really support your knees. Castor oil packs are very helpful for 45 minutes with heat or overnight.. ibuprophen really helps with the inflammation as well as massage.. |
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| The Following User Says Thank You to grateful2b For This Useful Post: | chiynita (06-19-2008)
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| Starting over Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Skin city
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| Hey there chiynita, and pleased to "meet" you. There is a kind of doctor that specializes in conditions like arthritis, it's called a "rheumatologist". My ex-wife had a horrible case of arthritis all over her body. Her docs gave her a variety of meds just for arthritis called "anti-inflamatories". Aspirin is a very, very mild kind of anti-inflamatory, steroid shots are middle of the road and the heavy duty ones are also used for cancer patients (like Methotrexate). These meds reduce the inflamation, which in turn reduces the pain a _lot_. See if you can find a rheumatologist, they were wonderful for my ex-wife. Mike |
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| Attitude of Gratitude Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio
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| I have Rheumatoid Arthritis as well as Lupus. A Rheumatologist usally does not treat "regular" arthritis. A Rheumatologist only treats those patients, like myself, who have been diagnosed through lab work with RA, Osteoarthritis, Lupus or diseases of that nature. By no means am I saying that "regular" arthritis is not terribly painful. Please don't think I am saying that. An Internal Medicine Dr. is a good one to go to for arthritis. They have a little more specialized training in the area of this type of diseases. If there is a diagnosed condition of the knee, your Dr. can refer you to an Orthopedic Dr., one who specializes in the treatment of bones and many times ligaments and tendons. Humira is one of the classes of drugs that are used when anti inflamatory drugs and the like are not getting any results. These are only used when someone has diagnosed RA and sometimes, depending on the severity of the disease, Osteo arthritis and Osteoporosis. I cannot afford these meds but my Dr. wants me to be on them but unless you have good insurance, they run into a few thousand dollars per treatment. In the beginning of the course of treatment, one starts with an injection or infusion, depending on the meds approximately every 2 weeks. Some of the meds stay at this 2 week time frame throughout the entire time. The ones that are given in an infusion eventually are given about 4 weeks apart. But due to the nature of these meds, side effects and a correct diagnosis being mandatory, they are not recommended until generally other treatment options have not had any results. I take Methotrexate, which was designed for Cancer patients. It is one of those extremely dangerous drugs if taken by someone who does not have RA. I also take a med, Plaqunil, that, believe it or not, was designed to be for patients with Milaria. I am also on Prednisone, which is a steriod that I have to take daily that has numerous horrible side effects such as bone density loss, it causes one's skin to become extremely thin, can lead to Diabetes . . . My Mom is suffering from all of those conditions due to having to have been on the drug for many years. She has had her pelvis break twice, just from normal wear and tear, her hip broke from walking and she has broken her ankle twice. These are all called stress fractures. I have had to take Prednisone for over 2 1/2 years now and will most likely never be able to be taken completely off of it. If they get my dose down too low, I have so much inflammation around my heart, lungs, kidneys . . . that I am in danger. Prednisone is given in short lengths of time for asthma, other types of inflammation and believe it or not, for severe acne. It is a miracle drug, but, the long term side effects are horrible. Cortizone shots, which are also a steroid based med, most times have fantastic results. They hurt when they are given directly into the joint but these can bring up to around 18 months of relief so I think they are worth it. Chiy, I think maybe it's time to look for another Dr., in my opinion. Some Dr.s, once they find out someone is an addict, no matter how well they may be doing in their Recovery, are unfortunatey real a$$ holes. I have ran into this myself. Last fall, when I blew my knee out, this one Dr. looked at my old records at the hospital, and even though I had 2 years in Recovery and made it very clear to everyone I came into contact with that by no means do I want any kind of narcotics, he still treated me awful. And he flat out told me that drug seekers need to stay away from the ER. Nearly every hospital has clinics that are based on the person's income and even have different programs where those who make under a certain amt. of money do not have to pay at all. I go to a satellite clinic where I am seen by a Rheumatologist, I have an Internal Medicine Dr. and also, if needed they have Orthopedics, Family Practice, OB GYN, Pediatrics . . . and it only costs me $10 a visit. These Dr.'s are generally residents but they are supervised by regular Dr.'s. I have never been given any care that I would consider less than wonderful. Most of these residents haven't been practicing long enough to have developed the, what I like to call, Holier Than Thou Attitudes. Until you can get in to see someone else, you can either use Ace bandages wraps for support of your knees or you can buy knee braces for relatively cheap. WalMart, Kmart and alike carry these. Also, anti inflammatories, such as IBU 800, have to be taken as prescribed for them to build up in your system to get the best results. You can use heat, (a heating pad or make some rice socks, see my thread in this forum) and use them for up to 20 minutes at a time, every couple of hours. I am only speaking from MY experiences as far as anything in this post. None of what I have said is medical advise. Chiy, I'm very proud of you for doing everything you can to see that your medical needs are addressed the proper way and that you have not picked up out of frustration or pain. Way to go girl, way to grow! Love and Hugs, Judy |
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| Om, Aum, Ohm... Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Punxsutawney, PA
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| One caution on the wraps & braces: I was using them to rest my joints, especially on days that I had to do a lot of writing in class. My doctor warned against keeping them in the braces too long, as range of motion as well as strength can be compromised. Judy, I know a woman on methotrexate. She swears it's a wonder drug. My RA has been out of remission for about nine months now, and I've been avoiding any tests for it until August, when my new insurance kicks in. I don't want to divert chynita's thread, but I have to ask: have you had any problems, between the methotrexate and the steroids, with your hair falling out? The woman I mentioned told me she's on some mega-folic acid, and her hair is still very thin. The vain part of me fears that. My hair is long (past my waist) and thin as it is. I keep telling myself I don't want chemicals in my body, but if I were to be rigorously honest, the vanity issue is a large part of my reluctance. Peace & Love, Sugah |
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| Attitude of Gratitude Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio
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| sugah, to be honest, I don't know which one of my meds is causing the thinning. It's not too noticeable. I notice it, but I've asked several friends who I know would give me an honest answer if they noticed it and they all said they didn't. But, like I said, I am on so many meds for these conditions that I can't honestly pinpoint which one is causing it, or it very well could be the menopause I'm going through. I have hot flashes so bad that for all I know, my hair could have singed off! lol |
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| Giving sober life a chance Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Clifton Park
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| And still is. I just got back from urgent care because the knees are really killing me. And my fingers and wrists. Does it ever stop. Well they gave me a shot in the butt of somehting. And it didnt do anything either. Monday I am contacting infectious disease myself. Since my Dr said he was going to and hasnt yet. If you want soemthing done right. I guess you gotta do it yourself sometimes. I am also looking for a new physician Monday. Mine is just getting ridiculous. He is defining me by addiciton. And I think that is ao wrong. |
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| Charter Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Nunyabusinessville, Texas
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| Try a hot bath with bath salts, it always helps me. Have you ever tried to meditate?? I sure hope you feel better and I'm sorry your having such a hard time. |
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| Waiting For Engines Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: brooklyn, new york
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This situation is horrible, but I am very happy that you have decided to seek out another MD who hopefully will not prejudge you based on history. I was just wondering if the Lyme Disease is a factor in all of this since that causes immense pain, and I learned that from you. What I am now saying is not to be taken as medical advice but I have had injections in my back that did work, albeit short-term and I had to come back for a few more injections. I asked my pain doc what he was injecting, and I beliee that he told me it was steroids--as SerenityQueen was talking earlier about the medication...My point was that the procedures certainly helped me, but one cannot just apply medical procedures unless they are medically appropriate.... I hope you find some peace with your pain...My prayers are with, my friend. | |
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| good luck with your doctor search Chi - it's hard when they get that tunnel vision and only can see that about you. it's too bad. you're suffering for no reason, and I would imagine the real problem is not being addressed. you deserve much better care, and I hope you find it. My younger sister suffers from rhumitoid arthritis and it's very sad. she goes from a heating pad to ice - keeps switching it up. sometimes that helps takes the edge off for awhile. sorry you're going through this, let us know how you get along tomorrow. sending good wishes that you'll find someone to help you. |
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| Giving sober life a chance Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Clifton Park
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| New Dr the 14th. A woman this time. No offense. Ksos...The organism is gone from Lyme. As of right now. But the other strand never goes away. But if treated unsuccessfully for a long period of time. Sypmtoms can remain. I am not sure if it has to do with it. I have had pain in knees for a couple years now. And kept telling my Dr aout it and he never did anything. My Dr is a PA. So the MD of the office took Xrays in Feb when I went to him and they found arthritis. But it is just all through my legs now and isnt getting better. I am sure my weight isnt helping any. But the fatigue and constant headaches are probably caused from the Lyme. Hopefully this new Dr will prove more helpful. Thanks guys. I feel like such a complainer. But just like with my addiction. I need to get it out of my head and express it somewhere. Thanks for listening.. |
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| Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Langley, BC
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| oh good Chi hopefully this new doctor will work on your issues at hand....and not issues that are in the past. best of luck!! (still a long time to go with painfully sore legs, but I guess at least there's a light.........I hope you get some relief soon) |
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| SR's SMART Goth Mod Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: SoCal
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| Arthritis is a b*tch. No other words for it. I have sports induced arthritis in my knees, jaw and back. Warm bathes help as long as I make sure to dry off quickly when I get out, otherwise the shift from warm to cool will make is hurt again (due to another condition I can't take 'hot' bathes). I always take an over-the-counter anti-inflammatory, even when I don't hurt. Otherwise the inflammation will kick right back in when I least expect it, and that is half the pain right there. I have learned a special way of power-walking that keeps from putting pressure on my knees, yet works the leg muscles so that I can strengthen them and support my bad joints. I learned a lot from physical therapy and my years of ballet. I have |