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You don't sound like a loser to me Jeff. I think a lot of us would like to have accomplished half of what you've shared you've done.
I know you're not a meds guy, but maybe you're depressed?
seeing your Dr might help - they may give you a referral to a psychologist or something?
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I know you're not a meds guy, but maybe you're depressed?
seeing your Dr might help - they may give you a referral to a psychologist or something?
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When we're down or feeling stress, our minds can do mean things to us. Been there. Felt that.
Don't listen to the second-place trophies stuff. We all have greater value than what we feel when times hurt.
I know it sounds trite, Jeff, but just try to weather the storm. I was going through some sad feelings a couple months ago. They go away.
Don't listen to the second-place trophies stuff. We all have greater value than what we feel when times hurt.
I know it sounds trite, Jeff, but just try to weather the storm. I was going through some sad feelings a couple months ago. They go away.
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You need some Buddhism in you!
Seriously, life isn't a race. There's always going to be people ahead of you, and people behind you, so you'll always be in 1st, 2nd, 5th, 18th, or whatever place your mind decides.
Don't fret it so much. Again, life isn't a race / competition. Anyone who says it is has their priorities mixed up.
Seriously, life isn't a race. There's always going to be people ahead of you, and people behind you, so you'll always be in 1st, 2nd, 5th, 18th, or whatever place your mind decides.
Don't fret it so much. Again, life isn't a race / competition. Anyone who says it is has their priorities mixed up.
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Originally Posted by Meraviglioso 
Jef, seriously, hang in there. These dark moments are a part of it, a part of real life. They have to be lived and dealt with. Drinking will not make them go away and most certainly will not make them better. I have been dealing with the absolute worst moments of my life these past 10 days. For real. And that is saying something considering the horrible things I have had to deal with. But I did it. I did it sober and I can assure you, even with only a minimal amount of time sober, I assure you that it was immeasurably more doable without alcohol.
I don't know what your post is about but I promise you that drinking will only make it worse. You might forget about it for a night but tomorrow it will still be there. It will still be there with a raging hangover to boot.
Come on. You know better than this. Hang in there, you can do this.
I don't know what your post is about but I promise you that drinking will only make it worse. You might forget about it for a night but tomorrow it will still be there. It will still be there with a raging hangover to boot.
Come on. You know better than this. Hang in there, you can do this.
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Originally Posted by Dee74
Hey Jeff, come back and tell us whats going on, man?
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Originally Posted by Venecia
Talk to us, Jeff.
You've been on an emotional roller coaster for the last couple weeks. SR is here for you, friend.
You've been on an emotional roller coaster for the last couple weeks. SR is here for you, friend.
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Originally Posted by Aellyce
So seriously, Jeff, what's going on?
“Experience is not what happens to a man; it is what a man does with what happens to him.”
- Aldous Huxley
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Originally Posted by Zufrieden
Hi Jeff
You are going through a lot and this business decision is huge. Whether or not it is a good move it must still be very bittersweet. Your state of mind is probably to be expected. You, me, all small business owners ... Throw everything we have into them. We love them and hate them at times but they are ours and can tend to define us too strongly.
How are you doing with the sale/dissolution? I'm here if you ever need to talk.
Jonathan
You are going through a lot and this business decision is huge. Whether or not it is a good move it must still be very bittersweet. Your state of mind is probably to be expected. You, me, all small business owners ... Throw everything we have into them. We love them and hate them at times but they are ours and can tend to define us too strongly.
How are you doing with the sale/dissolution? I'm here if you ever need to talk.
Jonathan
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Originally Posted by courage2
Whatever's going on, Jeff, don't turn your back now on those who want the best for you. We're here.
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Originally Posted by Dee74
You don't sound like a loser to me Jeff. I think a lot of us would like to have accomplished half of what you've shared you've done.
I know you're not a meds guy, but maybe you're depressed?
seeing your Dr might help - they may give you a referral to a psychologist or something?
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I know you're not a meds guy, but maybe you're depressed?
seeing your Dr might help - they may give you a referral to a psychologist or something?
D
The last thing I need is another pill, I have a closet full of **** right now un opened because I know where that leads.
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Originally Posted by thomas11
Hi Mera, I've learned that drinking does not cure anything, so no worries there. A workout? Would love to, have had thousands of them. I can't Mera, I just started riding a stationary bike in PT this week with zero resistance for my knees and it was very painful. It will be a year (they tell me) before I can actually workout to the point of sweating through my clothes (which to me always signified a successful workout). So, sorry, no workouts for Jeff for a while. But thanks anyway.
As for this second place loser stuff, are you kidding?! No, I assume you are not because you typed it out here. Your feelings are valid and important, they are not right or wrong, they just are. That said, there are many here and I imagine many in your face to face life who would wholeheartedly disagree. We've only chatted a time or two but what I gathered from those interactions is that you are a successful, intelligent and kind person.
Re-read what Troy said, life is not a race. Who are you competing with? And what is the point of this perceived competition? Those are legitimate questions, I am not trying to be fresh. In my humble opinion, at the end of the day what is important is that we gave our best, we accomplished what we were capable of given our resources and that we conducted ourselves in a manner that we were able to hold our head high upon waking and lay our head on our pillow at night with a clear conscience. If you can manage that, you are a true success, #1, first place winner in my eyes.
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Jeff, let me put it this way. When things like this come up in my mind, do you know what I try to remind myself to do? I try to remember to fast forward my life to when I'm laying on my death bed, taking my last breaths of air. What will I think, what will I remember, what will I care about?
One thing is for sure, I won't give a flying F about what society thought about me, or whether I was perceived as number 1, 2, 5, 15, or whatever. That will be the last thing on my mind.
Just saying, it doesn't matter. Don't worry about it so much, live your life, and be the best person you can be around those who know and love you. The rest is just fluff that comes and goes as the years tick by.
One thing is for sure, I won't give a flying F about what society thought about me, or whether I was perceived as number 1, 2, 5, 15, or whatever. That will be the last thing on my mind.
Just saying, it doesn't matter. Don't worry about it so much, live your life, and be the best person you can be around those who know and love you. The rest is just fluff that comes and goes as the years tick by.
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Dee, I'm sure you had a myriad of emotions over a period of months while you straightened out your life (for good). I am simply going through the same things.
I'd already walked through hell, Jeff....y'know?
It might be a good idea, but I don't trust doctors as all information is documented and uploaded to DHS here in the US. A loose lipped doctor once confided that in me. All information each week is uploaded to the University of Minnesota and then on to DHS.
The last thing I need is another pill, I have a closet full of **** right now un opened because I know where that leads.
The last thing I need is another pill, I have a closet full of **** right now un opened because I know where that leads.
I hope you can find your way out
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