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rojogonzo · 07-03-2012, 01:26 PM

What the f*ck are we doing here?

heathersweeds · 07-03-2012, 01:31 PM

I'm thinking we are all here as support for each other. To share our experience, strength and hope to move on in a life of recovery.

rojogonzo · 07-03-2012, 01:34 PM

Is there such a thing? Or is a delusion that we create when we abhor our lack of control? Self denial can be as destructive as alcohol.

2granddaughters · 07-03-2012, 01:39 PM

I've been sober for nearly 23 years. Must have been a hell of a dream !! .....

All the best

Bob R

Zee · 07-03-2012, 01:40 PM

rojogonzo, hi.
Are you having problems with alcohol or drug dependancy?
This is what the Sober Recovery forums are for. To help people with addiction.
Welcome

sugarbear1 · 07-03-2012, 01:41 PM

I know why I am here.

sharp75 · 07-03-2012, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojogonzo

Is there such a thing? Or is a delusion that we create when we abhor our lack of control? Self denial can be as destructive as alcohol.

self denial cant physically kill you, id ratehr live a life with self denial than a life with alcohol

Sapling · 07-03-2012, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojogonzo

Self denial can be as destructive as alcohol.

Self denial is worse...You can't fix a problem you don't think you have...I don't what you are doing to try to stay sober...But I'm in AA and the first step we have is admitting to ourselves we are alcoholic...And there can't be any future of normal drinking...It takes a lot of weight off when you can come to grips with that...I denied that for over 30 years...And I'm lucky to be here.

rojogonzo · 07-03-2012, 01:46 PM

So is the affliction real or imagined? The only reason im here is because some people i know loosely are concerned about a problem that may be real or imagined. Like christmas in the psych ward im not here cause i wamt to be. Alcohol has never given me a problem aside from the hangovers - but that hardly qualifies an illness real or imagined.

Sapling · 07-03-2012, 01:48 PM

Why don't you try stopping for 90 days and see if you can do it?...If that's not a problem..You have nothing to worry about.

carvel · 07-03-2012, 01:48 PM

You are obviously angry that you can't drink/use anymore. I felt the same emotions but I came to realize that I'd rather live sober than to die drunk or high.

I just discovered this site this past weekend and it has already helped me a lot. It's nice to have a community of people to share my problems with and they are very supportive even though I'll probably will never meet them.

All Things Will Pass and life is worth living!

sharp75 · 07-03-2012, 01:50 PM

im sorry but im losing sense of the conversation, are you here because you have a problem or another reason?

rojogonzo · 07-03-2012, 01:51 PM

Thats the fallacy. Its not for ninety days. And it isnt worth living drunk or sober. Not one os us is alive by choice. You dont get punch cards in the great Prologue asking if youd like to live. We, are here by default. Like a vowel after q. Nothing makes life via syntax easier to swallow, straight or wasted.

2granddaughters · 07-03-2012, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rojogonzo

Like christmas in the psych ward im not here cause i wamt to be.

Ah, you brought back some memories of the '70's in the Psych Ward.

I don't miss them, nor the state of mind I was in when I was admitted.
All the best.

Bob R

sharp75 · 07-03-2012, 01:54 PM

when i said id rather live in self denial than with alcohol i thought you were saying people who have "already recovered" are still alcoholics but in denial, so sorry thought you where mocking people who are recovering

mecanix · 07-03-2012, 02:11 PM

I decided my life was worth living years ago , it lead to giving up drugs, smoking and drinking .
I found sitting outside the cardiac ward and in A&E a few years back pritty eye opening .

**Dee74** · 07-03-2012, 02:23 PM

Actually if you read out back stories I think a good deal of us are alive by choice Rojo

I'm sorry you don't want to be here - tho I'm puzzled why you'd be here if you didn't want to be?

whats going on?

D

rojogonzo · 07-03-2012, 02:25 PM

If I knew Id say it instead of asking vague dogsh*t questions.

hypochondriac · 07-03-2012, 02:29 PM

If you have a problem with reality Gonzo I'd consult some philosophy books, or maybe a psychiatrist.

If it's a alcohol or drug problem I'd stop doing it and see how things turn out for you in a few months. These thing tend to **** with our heads a bit and I know for myself that things got better quite quickly once alcohol was out of the picture.

Whether or not you actually think you have a problem or not, if someone has brought it up it's worth addressing. And everyone should try out sobriety, at least once

x

rojogonzo · 07-03-2012, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypochondriac

If you have a problem with reality Gonzo I'd consult some philosophy books, or maybe a psychiatrist.

If it's a alcohol or drug problem I'd stop doing it and see how things turn out for you in a few months. These thing tend to **** with our heads a bit and I know for myself that things got better quite quickly once alcohol was out of the picture.

Whether or not you actually think you have a problem or not, if someone has brought it up it's worth addressing. And everyone should try out sobriety, at least once

x

I tried both. Made me a cultist, the otber made me a drunk. Thats where your precious philosophy takea you. Right back to the piece.

07-03-2012, 01:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
rojogonzo Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: new jersey Posts: 52	question What the f*ck are we doing here?

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heathersweeds Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ Posts: 524	I'm thinking we are all here as support for each other. To share our experience, strength and hope to move on in a life of recovery. __________________

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2granddaughters in my 24th year of sobriety Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Canada. About as far south as you can get Posts: 4,396	I've been sober for nearly 23 years. Must have been a hell of a dream !! ..... All the best Bob R __________________ . . .If you want to drink, that's your business ..... .If you want to quit, that's A.A.'s business. . . --- driven by a hundred forms of fear, self-delusion, self-seeking, and self-pity. . . L.D. 1989

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Dee74 SR Moderator Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: South Seas Posts: 65,614	Actually if you read out back stories I think a good deal of us are alive by choice Rojo I'm sorry you don't want to be here - tho I'm puzzled why you'd be here if you didn't want to be? whats going on? D __________________

07-03-2012, 01:34 PM	#3 (permalink)
rojogonzo Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: new jersey Posts: 52	Is there such a thing? Or is a delusion that we create when we abhor our lack of control? Self denial can be as destructive as alcohol.

07-03-2012, 01:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Zee Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Sussex, England Posts: 847	rojogonzo, hi. Are you having problems with alcohol or drug dependancy? This is what the Sober Recovery forums are for. To help people with addiction. Welcome

07-03-2012, 01:46 PM	#9 (permalink)
rojogonzo Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: new jersey Posts: 52	So is the affliction real or imagined? The only reason im here is because some people i know loosely are concerned about a problem that may be real or imagined. Like christmas in the psych ward im not here cause i wamt to be. Alcohol has never given me a problem aside from the hangovers - but that hardly qualifies an illness real or imagined.

07-03-2012, 01:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
Sapling AA Member Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Between Meetings Posts: 9,004	Why don't you try stopping for 90 days and see if you can do it?...If that's not a problem..You have nothing to worry about.

07-03-2012, 01:48 PM	#11 (permalink)
carvel Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Sugar Land Posts: 28	You are obviously angry that you can't drink/use anymore. I felt the same emotions but I came to realize that I'd rather live sober than to die drunk or high. I just discovered this site this past weekend and it has already helped me a lot. It's nice to have a community of people to share my problems with and they are very supportive even though I'll probably will never meet them. All Things Will Pass and life is worth living!

07-03-2012, 01:50 PM	#12 (permalink)
sharp75 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 181	im sorry but im losing sense of the conversation, are you here because you have a problem or another reason?

07-03-2012, 01:51 PM	#13 (permalink)
rojogonzo Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: new jersey Posts: 52	Thats the fallacy. Its not for ninety days. And it isnt worth living drunk or sober. Not one os us is alive by choice. You dont get punch cards in the great Prologue asking if youd like to live. We, are here by default. Like a vowel after q. Nothing makes life via syntax easier to swallow, straight or wasted.

07-03-2012, 01:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
sharp75 Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 181	when i said id rather live in self denial than with alcohol i thought you were saying people who have "already recovered" are still alcoholics but in denial, so sorry thought you where mocking people who are recovering

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mecanix Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: uk Posts: 1,390 Blog Entries: 8	I decided my life was worth living years ago , it lead to giving up drugs, smoking and drinking . I found sitting outside the cardiac ward and in A&E a few years back pritty eye opening .

07-03-2012, 02:25 PM	#18 (permalink)
rojogonzo Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: new jersey Posts: 52	If I knew Id say it instead of asking vague dogsh*t questions.

07-03-2012, 02:29 PM	#19 (permalink)
hypochondriac Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: UK Posts: 4,280	If you have a problem with reality Gonzo I'd consult some philosophy books, or maybe a psychiatrist. If it's a alcohol or drug problem I'd stop doing it and see how things turn out for you in a few months. These thing tend to **** with our heads a bit and I know for myself that things got better quite quickly once alcohol was out of the picture. Whether or not you actually think you have a problem or not, if someone has brought it up it's worth addressing. And everyone should try out sobriety, at least once x __________________ “The future you have tomorrow, won't be the same future you had yesterday.” ― Chuck Palahniuk, Rant

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