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05-13-2009, 09:59 AM
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May I suggest you buy an amazing book called: Love Is Letting Go Of Fear by Gerald Jampolsky. It is one of the most remarkable books I have ever read & life changing. It's been my experience, pain is the touchstone of all growth. What am I really willing to do about my life? I will keep this thread going & ask you post your findings. What do you have to lose? A few bucks and a bit of your time? What if your life did change........
__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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05-13-2009, 10:21 AM
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I have not read the book, but I agree with you that personal growth is usually preceded by pain. It has been the case for me, in my recovery. The intensity of my pain when I finally stopped drinking, allowed me to begin to turn my life around. It allowed me to start seeing myself and my life in a different way.
__________________  And I dont know what the future is holding in store I dont know where Im going, Im not sure where I've been There's a spirit that guides me, a light that shines for me My life is worth the living, I dont need to see the end. John Denver |
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05-13-2009, 11:39 PM
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Anybody with the desire to read this book?
__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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05-15-2009, 01:52 AM
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sfgirl! nice to hear, check in when it arrives. Be nice to review a couple of parts with you...... OzSandy?
__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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05-16-2009, 12:59 PM
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So I read up to the lessons last night (Amazon is amazing and got it here in seconds...) and it sort of is exactly the thing I want to be working on right now. So I am pretty reliant on my rational mind. I always have been. And a couple months ago, I realized the extent to which I was always judging people inside my head and how these judgments were creating barriers and putting distance between me and people and me and the world. In a way it is a very subtle thing because it is not like the judgments themselves are extremely obvious all the time, like that person sucks because x, but more like, that person is really into raw food, I think eating raw is silly, cooking seems like a natural thing to me, and so on goes the tape in my head. What I realized though was how much distance this actually puts between me and other people. This book speaks to that. It uses different language I think than I have used for myself but that is helpful. I think I might try the lessons because I do want to deprogram myself from thinking about the world in this way. When I am more accepting. When instead of judging, I can accept the difference, it makes my life more pleasant, life more open. When I went to Hawaii, at the beginning of my trip I felt my judging mind sort of pulling away from me and it scared me. It scared me because I am so used to it being there and in a way it protects me. On my vacation for some reason, my judgments fell aside briefly and I felt more open and free. I want that back. Interestingly I never felt like posting here when I felt that way. I had nothing to say. I would read and I just couldn't post a response. Everyone had such valid things to say. I want that attitude back. So I am going to try those lessons. It is difficult though to change that part of you especially when you are such a logical, rational, intellectual person. But more and more I am realizing the detriment to relying on that part of me too much. |
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05-16-2009, 04:10 PM
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sf girl, great to hear for you! love this: and so on goes the tape in my head.......OMG yes. What really helps me re: this or any other "old character" traits is to say: IN THE PAST I________ You have so many great points in your post, hope you will provide more insight! Later I'll post one of my favorites in the book, thanks again!
__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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05-17-2009, 01:19 PM
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The library is a good idea, let me know when you get it!
__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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05-17-2009, 01:24 PM
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| from pg 18 re-playing the past
"We all manufacture our own dust & static which serve only to interfere with seeing, hearing and experiencing Love within ourselves & others. This self-imposed interference keeps us stuck in an old belief system that we use repeatedly, even though it doesn't get us what we want."
__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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05-22-2009, 08:14 AM
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__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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05-27-2009, 09:31 AM
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those who obtained the book I'd love to hear from you!
__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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05-27-2009, 09:32 AM
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I need help with this today........getting caught up in old character! Again...lol.......... "We all manufacture our own dust & static which serve only to interfere with seeing, hearing and experiencing Love within ourselves & others. This self-imposed interference keeps us stuck in an old belief system that we use repeatedly, even though it doesn't get us what we want."
__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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06-02-2009, 04:06 PM
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__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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06-14-2009, 12:27 PM
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__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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06-26-2009, 12:44 AM
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__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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06-26-2009, 01:43 PM
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1 day, though we don't always agree on everything (who does?!!) I value your opinion and recovery. I have this on my list of recovery books to order. A bit short on cash at the moment, as I've been out of work for 6 weeks, but when I've got an extra couple bucks to spare it will be on my first Amazon order. Loving myself is something I have no clue how to do. Hopefully it can offer some insight. Thanks for the recomendation.
__________________ Peace and Love, Tyler "I used to do a little but a little wouldn't do it so a little got more and more. I just keep tryin' to get a little better, said a little better than before." Mr. Brownstone G-n-R Heck is where people go who don't believe in Gosh  |
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06-26-2009, 02:06 PM
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tyler, shoot me a pm w/ your address, i'll have the book shipped to you today. hope you find work right away!!
__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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06-26-2009, 03:05 PM
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excellent Misty! please let me know, the concepts, lessons & principles are quite simple, yet powerful.
__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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06-26-2009, 08:28 PM
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Thanks so much 1 Day, I can't really tell you how much that means to me. I sent you a PM. Thanks again.
__________________ Peace and Love, Tyler "I used to do a little but a little wouldn't do it so a little got more and more. I just keep tryin' to get a little better, said a little better than before." Mr. Brownstone G-n-R Heck is where people go who don't believe in Gosh |
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06-27-2009, 03:57 PM
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it's the least I can do....... As you will learn, the first lesson in Love is Letting Go of Fear is: All that I give is given to myself.
__________________ "A A's 12 Steps are a group of principles, spiritual in nature, which if practiced as a way of life, can expel the obsession to drink/think and enable the sufferer to be happily & usefully whole" Quote from the 12 X 12, not the BB "Calmness is trust in action" |
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