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doorknob · 12-08-2008, 10:23 PM

Are you threatening me? You can take me, but you cannot take my bunghole...

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ananda · 12-09-2008, 06:35 AM

just stopping by to say hi DK....

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 08:14 AM

Thanks, Ananda.

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 08:17 AM

I'm feeling like I did when I got out of that psych eval. I wanna **** myself up...

***Freedom1990*** · 12-09-2008, 08:19 AM

When was your last AA meeting, dear? :ghug :ghug

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 08:19 AM

Sunday.

***Freedom1990*** · 12-09-2008, 08:21 AM

Any chance of making a meeting today? Are you doing any reading out of the Big Book? Got a sponsor?

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 08:28 AM

I'm sorry Freedom, but I find 98% of the Big Book to be religious nonsense. I go to AA only for the social support. I'm not sure if I'll get into Spokane today or not. It's a possibility...

***Freedom1990*** · 12-09-2008, 08:35 AM

No need to apologize, I was just asking!

The only thing I remember about my first year is that a spatula would have been nice most of the time because I was on the ceiling-either that or I was on a sub-cellar level!

My moods were all over the place. I was just plum nuts.

For me, it was meetings, meetings, meetings. I finally started to halfway level out after that first year...I think.

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 08:42 AM

The difficulty I have with meetings is that for me they can be a double edged sword. Atheist are usually not well received, especially in places like Eastern WA. Of course, there's a whole chapter dedicating to converting the atheist & agnostic. It's like the fundamentalists who want to "fix" gay people. But in AA, I could be a transexual midget dating my mother and be more accepted... and maybe get on Jerry Springer.

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 08:47 AM

My perspective on addiction is expressed in an upcoming LifeRing publication. I started a thread about it in the Secular Connections forum:

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ml#post2016724 (Empowering Your Sober Self: Excerpts)

***Freedom1990*** · 12-09-2008, 08:51 AM

That's cool.

I was raised in a strict Catholic home. I have my views on organized religion, but will keep those to myself.

I practice spirituality in my home, not religion.

The AA group was my higher power for a long time.

I can only share what my personal experience has been, and what has worked for me. :ghug

least · 12-09-2008, 08:52 AM

Good morning Doorknob!!

I hope your day goes well and that you are happy.

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 10:38 AM

The people who came to the Alcoholism forum form the AA forum to support me are not gonna see this thread where it's been moved to, and there were quite a few...

Ago · 12-09-2008, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doorknob

The people who came to the Alcoholism forum form the AA forum to support me are not gonna see this thread where it's been moved to, and there were quite a few...

we're here Paul

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 04:00 PM

LOL, I gave you heads up on the phone... meeting was good, btw. Thanks, ANDREW!

least · 12-09-2008, 04:17 PM

I think Carol put a 'redirect' in the Alcoholism forum so we could find you here. Do'nt worry, we'll look til we find you!

Give your animals a scratch on the neck or a tummy rub for me! My beagirl is a tummy-rub-junkie, can't get enough. It's amazing she still has hair on her tummy after ten years of tummy-rubbing daily!

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 08:29 PM

I went to a meeting this afternoon and the topics were 'powerlessness' and 'a loving God'... this dude shared that he was an atheist and that prayer and meditation never did anything for him, and that he is only powerless if he takes a drink. An open rationalist at an AA meeting, OMFDK. I can't wait to hear him share again...

***Freedom1990*** · 12-09-2008, 08:45 PM

We have atheists at our group. Are they rare in your area or something?

I had to smile the other night because you know what one guy said his higher power was? A door knob! I was tempted to ask him if he knew you, but I behaved.

Ago · 12-09-2008, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doorknob

An open rationalist at an AA meeting, OMFDK. I can't wait to hear him share again...

umm....that's not out of the ordinary actually in my experience, I mean it's clearly stated like 700 times "God as you understand him"

People use trees, waves, the ocean, nothingness, electricity, any power greater then themselves, as we discussed on the phone, ...other then a few practicing Buddhists I couldn't really tell you about what religion hardly anyone is in the AA meetings I go to because it's spiritual, not religious, two completely different animals.

I know like 20 Buddhists off the top of my head and maybe a few more christians out of thousands of people I see around, and myself, a wiccan, a Buddhist, an atheist, an agnostic, and even a christian of the bible thumpin variety can go to dinner after the meeting and completely agree on the spiritual principals outlined in the Big Book.

Just an idea, but why not try letting the whole "aversion" to the whole "god" concept go a little bit, I just don't see it as being helpful to you, I mean if what you have been doing for the last three years hasn't been working, why not at least try something new?

Just an idea, I mean try using "Oblivion" or "Nothingness" for your "God" like we discussed on the phone maybe?

All I'm suggesting is trying to be a bit open minded ...also, why not ask Mr Rational to sponsor you and take you through the steps, it sounds like he has what you want, sobriety and the balls to share about being "rational" in a meeting, I mean hell Doorknob, there is a good enough reason to get sober right there, so you can go to meetings and share how you have 800 years of sobriety and didn't need to damned God lol.

What can it hurt?

You may even wind up sober, happy, joyous and free.

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freedom1990

We have atheists at our group. Are they rare in your area or something?

Definitely more rare than in many parts of the country.

Quote:

I had to smile the other night because you know what one guy said his higher power was? A door knob! I was tempted to ask him if he knew you, but I behaved.

I've heard the suggestion maybe once or twice... lmao

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ago

umm....that's not out of the ordinary actually in my experience, I mean it's clearly stated like 700 times "God as you understand him"

People use trees, waves, the ocean, nothingness, electricity, any power greater then themselves, as we discussed on the phone, ...other then a few practicing Buddhists I couldn't really tell you about what religion hardly anyone is in the AA meetings I go to because it's spiritual, not religious, two completely different animals.

I know like 20 Buddhists off the top of my head and maybe a few more christians out of thousands of people I see around, and myself, a wiccan, a Buddhist, an atheist, an agnostic, and even a christian of the bible thumpin variety can go to dinner after the meeting and completely agree on the spiritual principals outlined in the Big Book.

Just an idea, but why not try letting the whole "aversion" to the whole "god" concept go a little bit, I just don't see it as being helpful to you, I mean if what you have been doing for the last three years hasn't been working, why not at least try something new?

Just an idea, I mean try using "Oblivion" or "Nothingness" for your "God" like we discussed on the phone maybe?

All I'm suggesting is trying to be a bit open minded ...also, why not ask Mr Rational to sponsor you and take you through the steps, it sounds like he has what you want, sobriety and the balls to share about being "rational" in a meeting, I mean hell Doorknob, there is a good enough reason to get sober right there, so you can go to meetings and share how you have 800 years of sobriety and didn't need to damned God lol.

What can it hurt?

You may even wind up sober, happy, joyous and free.

Dude, you live in the SF Bay Area, where anything goes... I know, I grew up there. I could move anywhere in the country, and nothing will ever shock me...

I haven't been trying to stay sober for all of the last 3 years, just a couple short lived attempts.

It would be nice to rack up some sober time and share my experience at AA meeting, but it would be nicer to get a few LifeRing meetings starting in the Greater Spokane Area.

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 09:51 PM

Definition of creepy (LOL):

***Freedom1990*** · 12-09-2008, 10:29 PM

Oh my gawd, I have so got to have one of those hats. Where in the hell did you get that?

Just wait till I get my digi for Christmas and I'll snap you a pic of me with my Mickey Mouse ears on and my 'old people' orange construction vest on!

doorknob · 12-09-2008, 10:56 PM

There's this store in Leavenworth, WA called The Hat Shop that has every kind of ridiculous hat you could imagine. So, you see tourists all around town wearing crazy hats, lol. Well... they donated a box of old stock to the little ski hill I was working at for carnival day and we got to pick one to wear and keep. I think I'm gonna start wearin' it drivin' around in the car, lol. Maybe that will attract the dog lovin' ladies. My mom is training her dog to 'dance', lol. They're gonna be in a show. Sumpin' like this:

YouTube - Carolyn Scott & Rookie

12-08-2008, 10:23 PM	#226 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	Are you threatening me? You can take me, but you cannot take my bunghole... YouTube - Beavis and Butthead vaya cornholio YouTube - Beavis and Butthead - the best clips __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

12-09-2008, 06:35 AM	#227 (permalink)
ananda Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 11,908 Blog Entries: 1	just stopping by to say hi DK.... __________________ Copyright © 2010 - 2010 Ananda You can't stop living just because it hurts a little - Ananda's Mom

12-09-2008, 08:14 AM	#228 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	Thanks, Ananda. __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

12-09-2008, 08:17 AM	#229 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	I'm feeling like I did when I got out of that psych eval. I wanna **** myself up... __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

12-09-2008, 08:19 AM	#230 (permalink)
*Freedom1990* Wesley Employee Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 9,340	When was your last AA meeting, dear? :ghug :ghug __________________ DeVon & the Zoo Crew ‎Worry is a thin stream of fear trickling through the mind. If encouraged, it cuts a channel into which all other thoughts are drained. ~Arthur Somers Roche

12-09-2008, 08:19 AM	#231 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	Sunday. __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

12-09-2008, 08:21 AM	#232 (permalink)
*Freedom1990* Wesley Employee Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 9,340	Any chance of making a meeting today? Are you doing any reading out of the Big Book? Got a sponsor? __________________ DeVon & the Zoo Crew ‎Worry is a thin stream of fear trickling through the mind. If encouraged, it cuts a channel into which all other thoughts are drained. ~Arthur Somers Roche

12-09-2008, 08:28 AM	#233 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	I'm sorry Freedom, but I find 98% of the Big Book to be religious nonsense. I go to AA only for the social support. I'm not sure if I'll get into Spokane today or not. It's a possibility... __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

12-09-2008, 08:35 AM	#234 (permalink)
*Freedom1990* Wesley Employee Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 9,340	No need to apologize, I was just asking! The only thing I remember about my first year is that a spatula would have been nice most of the time because I was on the ceiling-either that or I was on a sub-cellar level! My moods were all over the place. I was just plum nuts. For me, it was meetings, meetings, meetings. I finally started to halfway level out after that first year...I think. __________________ DeVon & the Zoo Crew ‎Worry is a thin stream of fear trickling through the mind. If encouraged, it cuts a channel into which all other thoughts are drained. ~Arthur Somers Roche

12-09-2008, 08:42 AM	#235 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	The difficulty I have with meetings is that for me they can be a double edged sword. Atheist are usually not well received, especially in places like Eastern WA. Of course, there's a whole chapter dedicating to converting the atheist & agnostic. It's like the fundamentalists who want to "fix" gay people. But in AA, I could be a transexual midget dating my mother and be more accepted... and maybe get on Jerry Springer. __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

12-09-2008, 08:47 AM	#236 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	My perspective on addiction is expressed in an upcoming LifeRing publication. I started a thread about it in the Secular Connections forum: http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ml#post2016724 (Empowering Your Sober Self: Excerpts) __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

12-09-2008, 08:51 AM	#237 (permalink)
*Freedom1990* Wesley Employee Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 9,340	That's cool. I was raised in a strict Catholic home. I have my views on organized religion, but will keep those to myself. I practice spirituality in my home, not religion. The AA group was my higher power for a long time. I can only share what my personal experience has been, and what has worked for me. :ghug __________________ DeVon & the Zoo Crew ‎Worry is a thin stream of fear trickling through the mind. If encouraged, it cuts a channel into which all other thoughts are drained. ~Arthur Somers Roche

12-09-2008, 08:52 AM	#238 (permalink)
least bona fido dog-lover Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: eastern USA Posts: 23,513 Blog Entries: 31	Good morning Doorknob!! I hope your day goes well and that you are happy. __________________ I'd rather live in my car with my dogs than live in a castle without them. Dogs may not be our whole lives, but they make our lives whole. Don't wait for the Last Judgement. It takes place every day. -Albert Camus Find the good and praise it. - Alex Haley

12-09-2008, 10:38 AM	#239 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	The people who came to the Alcoholism forum form the AA forum to support me are not gonna see this thread where it's been moved to, and there were quite a few... __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

12-09-2008, 04:00 PM	#241 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	LOL, I gave you heads up on the phone... meeting was good, btw. Thanks, ANDREW! __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

12-09-2008, 04:17 PM	#242 (permalink)
least bona fido dog-lover Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: eastern USA Posts: 23,513 Blog Entries: 31	I think Carol put a 'redirect' in the Alcoholism forum so we could find you here. Do'nt worry, we'll look til we find you! Give your animals a scratch on the neck or a tummy rub for me! My beagirl is a tummy-rub-junkie, can't get enough. It's amazing she still has hair on her tummy after ten years of tummy-rubbing daily! __________________ I'd rather live in my car with my dogs than live in a castle without them. Dogs may not be our whole lives, but they make our lives whole. Don't wait for the Last Judgement. It takes place every day. -Albert Camus Find the good and praise it. - Alex Haley

12-09-2008, 08:29 PM	#243 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	I went to a meeting this afternoon and the topics were 'powerlessness' and 'a loving God'... this dude shared that he was an atheist and that prayer and meditation never did anything for him, and that he is only powerless if he takes a drink. An open rationalist at an AA meeting, OMFDK. I can't wait to hear him share again... __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

12-09-2008, 08:45 PM	#244 (permalink)
*Freedom1990* Wesley Employee Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 9,340	We have atheists at our group. Are they rare in your area or something? I had to smile the other night because you know what one guy said his higher power was? A door knob! I was tempted to ask him if he knew you, but I behaved. __________________ DeVon & the Zoo Crew ‎Worry is a thin stream of fear trickling through the mind. If encouraged, it cuts a channel into which all other thoughts are drained. ~Arthur Somers Roche

12-09-2008, 09:51 PM	#248 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	Definition of creepy (LOL): __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

12-09-2008, 10:29 PM	#249 (permalink)
*Freedom1990* Wesley Employee Extraordinaire Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Kansas Posts: 9,340	Oh my gawd, I have so got to have one of those hats. Where in the hell did you get that? Just wait till I get my digi for Christmas and I'll snap you a pic of me with my Mickey Mouse ears on and my 'old people' orange construction vest on! __________________ DeVon & the Zoo Crew ‎Worry is a thin stream of fear trickling through the mind. If encouraged, it cuts a channel into which all other thoughts are drained. ~Arthur Somers Roche

12-09-2008, 10:56 PM	#250 (permalink)
doorknob Knucklehead Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Davenport, WA Posts: 4,015	There's this store in Leavenworth, WA called The Hat Shop that has every kind of ridiculous hat you could imagine. So, you see tourists all around town wearing crazy hats, lol. Well... they donated a box of old stock to the little ski hill I was working at for carnival day and we got to pick one to wear and keep. I think I'm gonna start wearin' it drivin' around in the car, lol. Maybe that will attract the dog lovin' ladies. My mom is training her dog to 'dance', lol. They're gonna be in a show. Sumpin' like this: YouTube - Carolyn Scott & Rookie __________________ Get in where you fit in. - Too $hort

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