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GLAMACHIC · 07-20-2006, 06:45 PM

hi everyone,
hope ur all well.
i have been posting under the friends & familie sof alcoholics, and someone suggested that i post my question up under here as it is a narcotics related one.

i have a brother who is addicted, who thinks he is not, who denies that he is addicted, who thinks he can stop whenever he wants, so he obviously thinks he has control, which my parents and i can see he hasnt, he thinks he is doing this to kill some spare time he has, who says its for fun ( i laugh at that excuse) .. anyways the list of excuses just goes on and on and on...

my question is, because addiction is just so technical, i would love some information on it...why does my brother hang out with these people? why does addicts get addicted? how does addiction work? .. maybe if we had a bit more of an understanding about addiction and the person and the mind, my parents and i might be able to help ourselves and our brother/son.

any info would be great...if there is any info out there in the greek language as my parents dont really understand much of the english language, it would be great too.

thanks in advance.

**Phinneas** · 07-20-2006, 06:52 PM

GLAMACHIC!

A place to start is with the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonomous and the NA Basic Text. Also, I would Google the terms for more reading as well as go to the library for books. Under the Influence and Beyond the Influence are good books you can get on Amazon.

I admire you for wanting to learn about addiction. Only one of my family members ever read up on the subject.

IMO, addiction is a disease consisting of a mental obsession and a physical compulsion. It is not a "choice," meaning, I did not wake up one day and say, "Gee, when I grow up, I want to be an addict." Nope. This disease does not discrimninate. It leads to jails, institutions or death without a strong, honest program of recovery that addresses the phsyical, mental and spiritual aspects of the person.

I hope that helps. Others will be along, too, to add their suggestions and information.

GLAMACHIC · 07-20-2006, 07:31 PM

hi phinny,
thanks for that
what exactly is NA basic text? im not sure about this one

i will look into those other 2 books and look for them at our borders bookstore.

Chance · 07-20-2006, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLAMACHIC

hi phinny,
thanks for that
what exactly is NA basic text? im not sure about this one

The NA Basic Text is our road map to a new way of life. I just brought up a thread on the entire program of recovery about the NA Basic Text.

Love Vic :banandan

GLAMACHIC · 07-20-2006, 09:01 PM

where would i find this NA basic text?

GLAMACHIC · 07-20-2006, 10:48 PM

i did the google thing, but i went to the google greece site and found load and loads of information on addiction in greek so i can print and give to my parents...i love google!!!

thanks again everyone

Chance · 07-21-2006, 04:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GLAMACHIC

where would i find this NA basic text?

Right here it is copy and paste if you want or print...If you want one PM me you address and I could send you one. I am sure most of us here would do that.

Love Vic

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...asic-text.html

oreowing · 07-22-2006, 01:02 PM

hello glamachic, i am an addict and i know what your going through, for i believe every family goes through hell when everything comes to lite. in my opinion, people become addicted for a number of reasons. my own personal experiance was easy. im an individual who has always had a low self esteem, and was always so afraid of drugs, legal or illegal. the narcotic pills to me changed the way i felt about myself and really brought me out of a low self esteem mind set that ive always had. with that in mind, i thought to myself that the pills were legal and they made me feel like a million bucks. i can function 110% at work and in my personal life, so theres no problem. totally incorrect. these things kill you slowly, when abused. they destroy your liver and kidneys, and has a negative effect on your body and mind when you do stop. withdrawls are worse then hell. just so happy im was strong enough to say no to heroin. hope your doing well, and keep your head up. your brother well appreciate what your doing in the long run, but its up to him initially.. best of luck. oreo

GLAMACHIC · 07-23-2006, 06:56 PM

do u know what oreo means in greek?

oreo when u emphasise on the first "o" means "beautiful"

and thats just what you are beautiful because you can admit and beautiful because you are so strong!!

good on you...and good on to everyone on their journeys...i hope my brothers is a good one too

xoxo

GLAMACHIC · 07-30-2006, 11:25 PM

Update on my brother...he no longer lives at home..well hasnt been home for about a week...he no longer cares about his business or real estate..doesnt care weather he pays taxes or not... if he doesnt get locked up for drugs he will most certainly get locked up for tax evasion or what ever its called....

i think he is hitting rock bottom...his so called "friend" who's belongings are in my parents garage is in jail for drug dealing ... i think its more hard for my parents to accept than it is me...i am more disappointed in him than upset... no offence to anyone but do u think drug addiction is a sign of weakness?

07-20-2006, 06:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
GLAMACHIC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 18	Need Info Please hi everyone, hope ur all well. i have been posting under the friends & familie sof alcoholics, and someone suggested that i post my question up under here as it is a narcotics related one. i have a brother who is addicted, who thinks he is not, who denies that he is addicted, who thinks he can stop whenever he wants, so he obviously thinks he has control, which my parents and i can see he hasnt, he thinks he is doing this to kill some spare time he has, who says its for fun ( i laugh at that excuse) .. anyways the list of excuses just goes on and on and on... my question is, because addiction is just so technical, i would love some information on it...why does my brother hang out with these people? why does addicts get addicted? how does addiction work? .. maybe if we had a bit more of an understanding about addiction and the person and the mind, my parents and i might be able to help ourselves and our brother/son. any info would be great...if there is any info out there in the greek language as my parents dont really understand much of the english language, it would be great too. thanks in advance.

07-20-2006, 06:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Phinneas Forum Leader Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: fumbling towards ecstasy Posts: 2,597	GLAMACHIC! A place to start is with the Big Book of Alcoholics Anonomous and the NA Basic Text. Also, I would Google the terms for more reading as well as go to the library for books. Under the Influence and Beyond the Influence are good books you can get on Amazon. I admire you for wanting to learn about addiction. Only one of my family members ever read up on the subject. IMO, addiction is a disease consisting of a mental obsession and a physical compulsion. It is not a "choice," meaning, I did not wake up one day and say, "Gee, when I grow up, I want to be an addict." Nope. This disease does not discrimninate. It leads to jails, institutions or death without a strong, honest program of recovery that addresses the phsyical, mental and spiritual aspects of the person. I hope that helps. Others will be along, too, to add their suggestions and information. __________________ “The greatest glory in living lies not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall.” ~Marianne Williamson

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07-20-2006, 07:31 PM	#3 (permalink)
GLAMACHIC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 18	hi phinny, thanks for that what exactly is NA basic text? im not sure about this one i will look into those other 2 books and look for them at our borders bookstore.

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GLAMACHIC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 18	where would i find this NA basic text?

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GLAMACHIC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 18	i did the google thing, but i went to the google greece site and found load and loads of information on addiction in greek so i can print and give to my parents...i love google!!! thanks again everyone

07-22-2006, 01:02 PM	#8 (permalink)
oreowing Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: lake placid,ny Posts: 31	hello glamachic, i am an addict and i know what your going through, for i believe every family goes through hell when everything comes to lite. in my opinion, people become addicted for a number of reasons. my own personal experiance was easy. im an individual who has always had a low self esteem, and was always so afraid of drugs, legal or illegal. the narcotic pills to me changed the way i felt about myself and really brought me out of a low self esteem mind set that ive always had. with that in mind, i thought to myself that the pills were legal and they made me feel like a million bucks. i can function 110% at work and in my personal life, so theres no problem. totally incorrect. these things kill you slowly, when abused. they destroy your liver and kidneys, and has a negative effect on your body and mind when you do stop. withdrawls are worse then hell. just so happy im was strong enough to say no to heroin. hope your doing well, and keep your head up. your brother well appreciate what your doing in the long run, but its up to him initially.. best of luck. oreo

07-23-2006, 06:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
GLAMACHIC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 18	do u know what oreo means in greek? oreo when u emphasise on the first "o" means "beautiful" and thats just what you are beautiful because you can admit and beautiful because you are so strong!! good on you...and good on to everyone on their journeys...i hope my brothers is a good one too xoxo

07-30-2006, 11:25 PM	#10 (permalink)
GLAMACHIC Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: AUSTRALIA Posts: 18	Update on my brother...he no longer lives at home..well hasnt been home for about a week...he no longer cares about his business or real estate..doesnt care weather he pays taxes or not... if he doesnt get locked up for drugs he will most certainly get locked up for tax evasion or what ever its called.... i think he is hitting rock bottom...his so called "friend" who's belongings are in my parents garage is in jail for drug dealing ... i think its more hard for my parents to accept than it is me...i am more disappointed in him than upset... no offence to anyone but do u think drug addiction is a sign of weakness?

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