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BRUCE · 06-20-2005, 04:43 PM

is alcoholism an addiction?

Mr.Muff · 06-20-2005, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BRUCE

is alcoholism an addiction?

Hell yes it is man...

Dan · 06-20-2005, 04:56 PM

Yeah, it is.
What would you like to know about it?

Is it that you're wondering if the alcohol flowing through my veins when I'm active is more or less dangerous than, say, meth? Or cocaine?

What if I was to tell you that of all the drugs and substances I've known and experienced, drinking alcohol is the one thing that almost killed me the most times.
I don't need to show you my arms, nor tell you about my wrecked sinus cavities.
Alcohol made my life unmanageable.

Now, let me ask you a question Bruce, if I may.
What are you looking for here?

KelKel · 06-20-2005, 05:09 PM

I can only speak for myself...
I am an addict and my Drug of Choice is alcohol.
It is no less deadly for me than rat poison.

Time2Surrender · 06-20-2005, 05:32 PM

In my opinion,alcohol is a drug.And yes,I would definately say alcoholism is an adiction.

michski · 06-20-2005, 06:28 PM

You might find it interesting that a study was done in San Diego years ago by a woman doctor who did autopsies on brains of dead alcoholics and heroin addicts. There was absolutely no difference between the two! Both chemicals did exactly the same damage to the brain anyway.

One difference is you might feel like you're gonna die withdrawing from Heroin but you can die withdrawing cold turkey off Alcohol. Go figure

tyler · 06-20-2005, 07:31 PM

Didn't we do this one already??

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ad.php?t=61436 (question?)

I thought so!!!

2dayzmuse · 06-20-2005, 07:39 PM

It sure seemed like an addiction when I was going through withdrawals, again and again.

Gooch · 06-20-2005, 08:51 PM

is Broccoli a vegetable?

BRUCE · 06-20-2005, 09:41 PM

i was just curious,,i mean the name of this sight is,,alcoholism and addictions,,evadently someone thinks there is a difference,

huggs bruce

Gooch · 06-20-2005, 09:54 PM

Uhmm .. the name of the site is Soberrecovery.

the Narcotics Anonymous forum is a subset of the alcoholism and addictions forums.

yeah Bruce there are a lot of people who think there are differences. If we are fortunate we get to help them live long enough to get straight and find their own path to recovery. Maybe some of them even stick around long enough to look beyond the manifestations of addiction and teh substances to deal with the root cause of self obsession.

BRUCE · 06-21-2005, 05:16 AM

ok ,,,,,i got the name wrong,,,,my bad,,,,,,,this phrase is at the top of this thread thow,,,,,,,,it is allso in some of our favorites lists,,<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=bottom><TD> (question?)

</TD><TD> </TD><TD width="100%">Alcoholism and Addictions Help Forum </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>i think the reason we seperate the two sometimes is because of the two fellowships,,,,aa/na,,,,,,,the na text,,i forget what page,,seperates the two by useing phrases like,,,,alcohol and drugs,,addicts and alcoholics,,alot of meetings that we attened on the walls have aa/na slogans hung next to each other,,aa/na traditions/steps allso,,on occasion i here an na/aa purist complaining about the language that somebody uses as being incorrect.when on the wall in front of them stareing at them are the very words/language they are complaining about,,it must get very disturbing for the purists,,

huggs bruce

godsonmyside · 06-21-2005, 05:32 AM

Bruce, you sound more concerned about the purist than personal recovery.
WHY IS THAT?
Sometimes we have to let things go.

UnSpiritual people lack certain characteristics associated with spiritual growth!

Some people bet the lives on this way of life and want others to get this this called recovery in Narcotics Anonymous, the ones who are doing it keep doing it, the ones who B!TCH about it, well you know the rest.

God puts all types of people in our lives, we either become humble and go wwith it, or become humiliated because we don't know how to stop playing God.

Good luck with that.

Peace,
Todd J.

Gooch · 06-21-2005, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by BRUCE

on occasion i here an na/aa purist complaining about the language that somebody uses as being incorrect.when on the wall in front of them stareing at them are the very words/language they are complaining about,,it must get very disturbing for the purists,,

huggs bruce

I'm sure it must.. it used to disturb the hell out of me.

In fact I had a few friends ( thank God for them.. they helped me stick around on several occasions) who used to turn the racks (with non NA material) around when they walked into a meeting .. "implied endorsements" you know?

Bruce .. it takes all kinds and we've got them. Our diversity truly is our strenmgth. In the long run I really believe God knows what he's doing when he throws us all together. It's analogous to setting sail in a boat that has a few leaks but will ultimately get us there as long as we take turns bailing.

peace brother.

Dan · 06-21-2005, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gooch

It's analogous to setting sail in a boat that has a few leaks but will ultimately get us there as long as we take turns bailing.

And I'd jump in after you if you fell out.

Gooch · 06-21-2005, 01:02 PM

You have on a couple of occasions bro! lol

BRUCE · 06-21-2005, 02:04 PM

heck,,if gooch fell out i would be able to lay down,,

huggs bruce

Blake · 06-21-2005, 03:18 PM

And while you were laying there and not bailing, the boat would sink.

06-20-2005, 04:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
BRUCE Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: worcester ma. Posts: 59	question? is alcoholism an addiction?

06-20-2005, 07:31 PM	#7 (permalink)
tyler Not all better, getting better Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The Beautiful Inner Banks of NC Posts: 1,600 Blog Entries: 8	Didn't we do this one already?? http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ad.php?t=61436 (question?) I thought so!!! __________________ Peace and Love, Tyler *"I used to do a little but a little wouldn't do it so a little got more and more. I just keep tryin' to get a little better, said a little better than before."* Mr. Brownstone G-n-R Heck is where people go who don't believe in Gosh

06-21-2005, 05:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
BRUCE Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: worcester ma. Posts: 59	ok ,,,,,i got the name wrong,,,,my bad,,,,,,,this phrase is at the top of this thread thow,,,,,,,,it is allso in some of our favorites lists,,<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR vAlign=bottom><TD> (question?)</TD><TD> </TD><TD width="100%">Alcoholism and Addictions Help Forum </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>i think the reason we seperate the two sometimes is because of the two fellowships,,,,aa/na,,,,,,,the na text,,i forget what page,,seperates the two by useing phrases like,,,,alcohol and drugs,,addicts and alcoholics,,alot of meetings that we attened on the walls have aa/na slogans hung next to each other,,aa/na traditions/steps allso,,on occasion i here an na/aa purist complaining about the language that somebody uses as being incorrect.when on the wall in front of them stareing at them are the very words/language they are complaining about,,it must get very disturbing for the purists,, huggs bruce

06-21-2005, 05:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
godsonmyside Vision of Hope Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Living on This side of the green!! Posts: 1,058	Bruce, you sound more concerned about the purist than personal recovery. WHY IS THAT? Sometimes we have to let things go. UnSpiritual people lack certain characteristics associated with spiritual growth! Some people bet the lives on this way of life and want others to get this this called recovery in Narcotics Anonymous, the ones who are doing it keep doing it, the ones who B!TCH about it, well you know the rest. God puts all types of people in our lives, we either become humble and go wwith it, or become humiliated because we don't know how to stop playing God. Good luck with that. Peace, Todd J. __________________ We get relief through the Twelve Steps which are essential to the recovery process, because they are a new, spiritual way of life that allows us to participate in our own recovery. We Do Recover Todd J.

06-21-2005, 03:18 PM	#18 (permalink)
Blake I'm an addict. Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Hyde Park, NY Posts: 1,201	And while you were laying there and not bailing, the boat would sink. __________________ Warning: I'm a sick person so take any advice I may be spewing with a grain of salt, but it's what has worked for me, so far.

06-20-2005, 04:56 PM	#3 (permalink)
Dan Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,710	Yeah, it is. What would you like to know about it? Is it that you're wondering if the alcohol flowing through my veins when I'm active is more or less dangerous than, say, meth? Or cocaine? What if I was to tell you that of all the drugs and substances I've known and experienced, drinking alcohol is the one thing that almost killed me the most times. I don't need to show you my arms, nor tell you about my wrecked sinus cavities. Alcohol made my life unmanageable. Now, let me ask you a question Bruce, if I may. What are you looking for here?

06-20-2005, 05:09 PM	#4 (permalink)
KelKel Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Mohave Desert Posts: 2,307	I can only speak for myself... I am an addict and my Drug of Choice is alcohol. It is no less deadly for me than rat poison.

06-20-2005, 05:32 PM	#5 (permalink)
Time2Surrender Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Washington State Posts: 7,263 Blog Entries: 7	In my opinion,alcohol is a drug.And yes,I would definately say alcoholism is an adiction.

06-20-2005, 06:28 PM	#6 (permalink)
michski Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: California Posts: 972	You might find it interesting that a study was done in San Diego years ago by a woman doctor who did autopsies on brains of dead alcoholics and heroin addicts. There was absolutely no difference between the two! Both chemicals did exactly the same damage to the brain anyway. One difference is you might feel like you're gonna die withdrawing from Heroin but you can die withdrawing cold turkey off Alcohol. Go figure

06-20-2005, 07:39 PM	#8 (permalink)
2dayzmuse Paused Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 5,094	It sure seemed like an addiction when I was going through withdrawals, again and again.

06-20-2005, 08:51 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gooch Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: out there... Posts: 2,654	is Broccoli a vegetable?

06-20-2005, 09:41 PM	#10 (permalink)
BRUCE Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: worcester ma. Posts: 59	i was just curious,,i mean the name of this sight is,,alcoholism and addictions,,evadently someone thinks there is a difference, huggs bruce

06-20-2005, 09:54 PM	#11 (permalink)
Gooch Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: out there... Posts: 2,654	Uhmm .. the name of the site is Soberrecovery. the Narcotics Anonymous forum is a subset of the alcoholism and addictions forums. yeah Bruce there are a lot of people who think there are differences. If we are fortunate we get to help them live long enough to get straight and find their own path to recovery. Maybe some of them even stick around long enough to look beyond the manifestations of addiction and teh substances to deal with the root cause of self obsession.

06-21-2005, 01:02 PM	#16 (permalink)
Gooch Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: out there... Posts: 2,654	You have on a couple of occasions bro! lol

06-21-2005, 02:04 PM	#17 (permalink)
BRUCE Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: worcester ma. Posts: 59	heck,,if gooch fell out i would be able to lay down,, huggs bruce

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