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10-20-2004, 07:36 AM
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| Learning To Let It Be  Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York
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Our third tradition states that ‘There is only one requirement for membership, the desire to stop using.’ Why then at nearly half the meetings I go to do they say ‘NA has no rules or requirements…’ I brought this up at business meeting and my sponsor said that the no rules or requirements thing comes from the WSO. I trust my sponsor but know that he is only human and is capable of being incorrect. Does this really come from the WSO. Either way, why? It seems very contradictory to say. Stepping Through Life...  |
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10-20-2004, 07:49 AM
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| An Addict name Jerome.......  Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Whitesburg, Georgia
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FrstdOne, ‘NA has no rules or requirements…’ I've never heard this before.."We have no dues or fees..and the only requirement for membership is the desire to stop using." is what I hear at every meeting I've ever been to.
__________________ Imagine "All The People Sharing All The World"......john lennon "There's a whole lot more of us freaks then they are those beautiful people"......frank zappa |
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10-20-2004, 09:09 AM
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| an addict named Mike Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida
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I'm an addict named Mike. I have not seen anywhere in the literature that NA has no rules or requirments, and I'm a literature JUNKIE. I know in our 12 traditions reading in the basic test it says our traditions are the "guidelines that keep our fellowship alive and free" and it also says after that "the 12 traditions of NA are not negotiable". So basically they are -Non negotiable guidelines-, sounds like rules to me ;>0 lol. It is likely your sponsor meant that we don't sit around in the groups picking and choosing who we want to be members or sit there making our own requirments and judgeing peoples willingness and desire. It also says in the third tradition that "desire is not a measurable commodity". Nobody can perfectly adhere to our traditions, we all make mistakes and fall short. I do believe that our "non negotiable guidelines" are basically rules, we can't compromise them for any reason. Just my opinions and views, take what you need and leave the rest.
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10-20-2004, 10:19 AM
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| Certified NA Counselor  Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Newport Beach Ca., US
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10-20-2004, 10:41 AM
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| Learning To Let It Be Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: New York
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Thanks, I'm going to use that in my argument which was for not saying NA has no rules or requirements. My area does a few things a bit differently from other areas I've visited which kind of aggrevates me since we are 20 minutes from Manhattan where we have on of the largest concentrations of addicts in recovery. You'd think we'd be adhering to the way things should be done. :shrug: Stepping Through Life... | |
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10-20-2004, 10:59 AM
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| doing the inside job  Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: planet happy
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freedom As an addict, I've followed the rules of families, work, ..ect. All my life I've been told what to do. Do this, do that, this way , that way. So it was my way or the highway after while becuase it looked and sounded all the same. I was never good enough for those A-holes anyways. I destroyed my life, but it was my choice, damit! all I want to do is be more like me and less like you. If NA had rules....it would the same crap as before. Yes, I've conformed or can go thur motions of rules and regulations It didn't mean I was free. No rules ? That's something new. It attracted me. |
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10-21-2004, 12:06 AM
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| Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Long Island, New York, U.S.A.
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And for sure, it does not come from the World Service Office (WSO). Richie | |
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10-21-2004, 08:31 AM
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| an addict named Mike Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Jacksonville, Florida
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I've never heard that statement as well, but I guess something similar to it is there. It speaks no about the "rules" part but is in line with the third tradition stating we -DO- have ONE requirement. I don't know about you guys, but "not negotiable guidelines" sure sounds like "rules" to me. lol .There are several contradictions I have found in the it works how and why book and the rest of the literature. Nothing in our literature SHOULD be comming from the "Business" of WSO, I thought we should be telling them how things are, how to do things and how to operate???? or is it vice versa??? But thats a whole different topic!!
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10-21-2004, 08:38 AM
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| An Addict name Jerome....... Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Whitesburg, Georgia
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Very go topic also, Mike. Maybe they are a need to start one.
__________________ Imagine "All The People Sharing All The World"......john lennon "There's a whole lot more of us freaks then they are those beautiful people"......frank zappa |
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