Oxycodone Dependency

[bigdaddy68]

i HAVE BEEN CLEAN OFF OF OXYCODONE FOR TWO DAY NOW AND NEED SOME HELP i AM GOING CRAZY CAN SLEEP I TOSS AND TURN I SWEAT THEN IAM COLD CAN ANYONE HELP ME!! I HAVE TAKIN THE 30MG ONLY AWEEK AND THIS IS THE REATIOC I GET. HOW LONG WILL IT LAST?????

[bigdaddy68]

I Am Sorry U Can Tell How ****** Up Iam I Cant Even Spell! I Just Wanted To Get Some Help Kickin This Crap It Is Time That I Take Control Of My Life And Get Away From The Pain And Mind Numbing Opiates That I Have Been Takin For Years It Is So Hard I Can Just Call My Doc And He Will Give Me More But I Dont Want To Go Through This Crap Again How Long Will It Take? My Fiancee Is Goin Nuts I Cant Even Sleep With Her Cause I Toss And Turn This Is Crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Phinneas]

The withdrawals are miserable and that is to be expected. Just hang in there literally 5 minutes at a time. The first week is the worst and then it can take months to start feeling normal again - at least it did for me. That's why a strong program of recovery is so important, to get you through this awful time. Go to meetings, read the book, talk to people in recovery, work the steps.

Ibuprofen and lots of hot baths will help. The insomnia and muscle aches, sweats and so on are NORMAL. Feeling like you want to crawl out of your skin is NORMAL.

Hang in there, ok? Keep reading and posting.

[bigdaddy68]

yeah the whole deal is that i want to crawl out of my skin i am starting to feel alittle better but my knee is killing me i just had knee surjury two weeks ago which got me into this mess with the oxycodone i only took 60 pills and now i am hooked, i am so afraid of the night because i want to sleep so bad but cant. i go back to my doc for a check up and how hard for me to not ask for more or should i get some weaker to deal with the effects i am feeling now. i cant take ibruprofen because i have another surjury on tuesday iam going out of my mind!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bigdaddy68]

i call to find out if they can give me something to sleep with because i cant sleep and she gives me a ration off well you should have come in earlier and got something for that i said all i want is you to call in something for me to sleep with and she refused and told me to take the pain pills until i come in and i said no iam not going to start this process all over again that i have been dealing with the last two days i said i will see you on monday for the very last time i want to see my doc and nobody else she tried to blame it on me when she told me on the phone that the pills she gave me we like three of percs well why did she not tell me that when she gave them to me they all want us hooked !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!so we come back so they can make more money it is just a vicsous cycle that i am not gonna deal with.............................................. ......................

[bigdaddy68]

Please Lord Give Me The Strength To Get Through This, I Cant Believe When I Told My Symptons To The P.a. She Told Me To Take More I Refuse, I Go In On Monday And I Feel The Need To Give Her A Piece Of My Mind, What Do Yall Think

[bigdaddy68]

it is getting better thanks for the reply by his blood, i am just hanging in there

[fuster]

Don't give them a piece of your mind, because right now your mind is not in a very good place, so what you will give them is not worth much except a reason for you to have to apologize to them later.

I'd second what Phinneas said, try those simple things to manage for now. Simple is good. Your system will not right itself overnight (sorry). But it will get better.

[bigdaddy68]

fuster, your right i have been thinking about it over the weekend and it is not worth my time to confront i will let my doctor know what happend because i felt the P.A. was wrong for what she did, I just want to get a good nights rest, havent had one since i stop taking the pills, my knee is constantly hurtin from the surjury i had three weeks ago but that is nothing compared to the pain of the withdraws of the pills, well i got 3 and a half hours of sleep last night but my mind races and i can get comfortable so i get up and start the day as best i can, hopefully this can all end soon!!!!

[Phinneas]

I am so glad you are hanging in there, bigdaddy. It's hard, but you're doing it.

I wish I had better news about the sleep thing, my friend. Insomnia is a very common symptom of withdrawal. It sucks, but just keep through 5 minutes and one hour at a time. SR is open 24/7 so come on here and read and post when you can't sleep, k?

We're pulling for ya!

[bigdaddy68]

Thank You Each Day Is Getting Better I Saw My Doc And He Gave Me Something To Help Me Sleep It Is A Blessing I Got 8 Hours Sleep Last Night!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Phinneas]

Yay!

[fuster]

Hello, Big:

Whut kind of surgery did y'all have on yur knee? What did they repair?

[bigdaddy68]

well i had to repair my acl about ten years ago and recently i had my miniscus repaired and he shaved off about a inch of arthritis. to let you all know i went to my doc and explained to him what the p.a. did to me and he said she was wrong for letting me go through all that when she should have talk to him in a situation like that and she should have never told me she did not want to hear my excuses, you should have saw her she was scwirming like a fish he told her all that in front off me it was great!!!!!! then she apoligized and we are all happy now. he did tell me that we need to give me a lower dose to slowly get off it all together and that the p.a. should have told me about the strength which lead me to my withdraws so yes i am on a lower dose and slowly but surely i will be done with that crap, i thank you for all the support with out you all i would have gone out of my mind, i know i am not free off that crap but soon, my knee is still hurtin but not as bad as what i was goin through last week!!!!!!!!! YOU ALL ARE GREAT I WILL BE HERE FOR ALONG TIME CAUSE YOU ALL ARE GREAT!!!!!

[fuster]

Sounds good. Oxycodone is a little strong for meniscus surgery. If they used that, it should have been a limited prescription for maybe 2-5 days and then they would switch you to Vicodin (500 mg), then you could have tapered off that by 2 weeks post surgery, with fewer side effects (assuming you weren't eating them like M&M's).

[bigdaddy68]

hello all i went to my doc today and i will be out of work for another month but i really dont to go back to my old company so tomorrow i am going to ride along with frito lay it is my second part of getting hired. I cant wait i really dont want to go back to my old company because they dont care about me they only care what i do for them with no chance for advancement. i have been out of work two months for a work related injury and has my boss called me once to see how i am doing and when i let them know that my doc said iam not ready to come back they just say " are you kidding me" what is wrong with employers now adays. they dont have any respect to treat you like a human being they just want you to be there robot and do do do not help or be concerned about you as a person. fuster yeah i think the same and i would have not got in the mess with taking something that was way to strong but the phys. asst. should have told me my reg. doc would have. anyway iam doing alot better with a little help i will be done with all this crap, my knee is feelin better each day therapy is painful but iam getting close to 100 percent, gotta go for now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[GreenTNHoney]

Unlike big daddy, I did not get addicted to this chemical through a pain recovery program, although my initial, first taste of painkillers was back in '01 when I was hit by a car while crossing the street. Long story short, that accident caused a downward spiral which resulted in a loss of - job, girl, friends, self-esteem and will to live. I was smoking pot and drinking a bottle of whiskey a day from '02-'05, when I stopped those and started pounding darvocets after moving back in with my mother. Those led me to vicodins which still were not cutting it for me. A person is led to opiates only if he is either in a.) severe physical pain or b.) severe emotional pain. Being a severely depressed individual myself, I worked my way up through the painkillers until one day a guy at the Gym asked me if I would like to try Oxycodone. I loved the feeling so much and the guy was willing to sell them to me at a fraction of the street value - so I fell right into it. It's a year and a half later and I've gone from 10mg a day to somedays upwards of 120 mg. From everything I've heard, this is the most addictive drug because it gets you physically, mentally and you'll do anything to avoid the withdrawl and compounded depression from obstaining. I'm going into in-patient real soon, but I want to try one more time to wean myself off. I know this is going to sound like bulls**t to most, but I tried this once before and ii almost stuck. Tell me if anyone has any opinions on this - I have access to Vicodins. I plan on going Cold from the Oxys, but will take up to three Viks a day, all at night to 1. Cut the pain of withdrawl and 2. Enable me to sleep. I don't know why this should work, because it's a different drug, but it does. If anyone out there has info on this subject or any opinions, please give me some FEEDBACK.

[Mr.Hyde]

so you're taking 120mg daily? are you slamming them? If you are Hydrocodone won't do s*it for the w/d's. I had a pretty hefty heroin habit and got on Buprenorphine, however, I wouldn't recommend bupe unless its ABSOLUTELY needed. As luckyo (spelling is wrong) will tell you, one opiate for another doesn't help (longterm). If you're going to inpatient detox where they don't believe in giving you drugs to combat the w/d symptoms I'd get myself off before going in with whatever you can. If you go in there with a 120mg/day habit you're going to be in some serious w/d's. wean your habit down, man. If you seriously CANNOT do that, (trust me, I understand if you can't), cold turkey it and take LITERALLY enough vikkis to keep w/d's at bay. You'll probably sweat and feel a little antsy, only sleep a few hours at a time, but thats a helluva lot better than CT in inpatient. Good luck man, I wish you the best.

[Mr.Hyde]

Originally Posted by GreenTNHoney

I don't know why this should work, because it's a different drug, but it does.

The reason it will keep the w/d's at bay is because it is a different opiate. See, what you have to understand is that your body got used to that artificial source of endorphines, (released when opiates are ingested). So your body quits producing endorphins naturally and your opiate receptors (Kappa and Mu, primarily) are used to being activated, or enabled. Anything from hydrocodone to oxys to heroin to fentnyl will activate your opiate receptors. (depending on the strength, activation goes up or down) Once that artificial source of opiates is taken away, you will experience the EXACT opposite effects of the opiates themselves, usually around the 24 hour mark (habit dependant). So instead of feeling great, passing out and being incredibly positive, you'll not sleep, fell like ripping your skin off and hate the world (sorry but its true). the good news is if you have vikkis you just might be able to activate the opiate receptors just enough to keep the w/d's at bay. I have to warn you, don't try to catch a buzz, that'll only prolong the weaning process. You're getting clean to, well I don't know you but I can only assume to not catch a buzz anymore, and that means a sober state of mind. Well, I hope this helps someone, I know I wish someone had given me this advice when I kicked the first two times, Good Luck!!

[GreenTNHoney]

that's why opiate abusers have such a low recovery rate. you can't just immediately go back to how you were prior to the start. we have damaged some key 'feel good' components up there.