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I'm not sure who that was. Vic? Was it you? Do you know? Good to see you here posting, liesagain.
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What I remember about the worksheet is that the person who posted it was sharing it for a person who had relapsed and the person said(if I remember correctly) that he had his sponsee's use the worksheet after a relapse. Thank you |
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Yeah I remember it also and I thought that I had printed it out however I haven't been able to find it. I think that it was Dalian or someone maybe moontime not sure. I will go hunt for it not sure where
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Here I tried to look I have found this and more so maybe this will help? ![]() http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=us
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| Evolving Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York State
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| NA doesn't offer a relapse worksheet http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=us This is something professionals use with their clients in a treatment program or facility. I struggle with seeing how this can help someone working it alone. It would probably be too overwhelming, confusing and have limited effect without the films, handouts and other materials that support it. Looks to me like a counselor's syllabus. It's certainly not AA/NA approved literature.
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thanks for the response.........The worksheet I was referring to was one that one of the people here on Sr posted once about 6 months or so...............I dont really think it was NA material............... I was just trying to find it again, my husband and I were talking and he thought it was something he may want to read and complete.............I guess in a sense to try and help himself identify the areas where he begins the process that leads him to his relapse. He was telling me, he knows something is missing for him in his program...and I quess he's just trying to work on figuring out what it is. ..............Anyhow, thanks for looking and thanks for taking time to respond, but it's fine I just thought maybe someone here would remember seeing it posted here. |
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No that isn't NA related the one that I goggled I couldn't find the one that you are referring too I have emailed Dalin and I think Fartoomuch about it. I don't know if moontime remembers it but it was a good thing. One thing that I was going to suggest for him to read Relapse and Recovery in the NA Basic Text...maybe getting a sponsor to work the steps in order seems like it has been very beneficial to me when I finally decided that I would go to any lengths to stay clean. The 4th step will open the door to many patterns I know that. But first he must really work the steps of 1, 2, and 3 first. Anyways I am still searching for you OK
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Thanks, Chance, yes he's read and re-read the Relapse chapter in the NA book. ( he's had several relapses over the last year) And he's doing the step work, did steps 1,2,&3 several times and has told me he learns something new each time, sees areas where he wasn't honest or not yet able to identify certain things.................and it seems that he keeps relapsing at step 4. I know it's not for me to figure out and I can't even if I wanted to but I really do believe that he has some underlying issues he needs to work out, that keep him from being honest in the ways he needs to be able to suceed in his recovery.............but again I know he has to be the one that does the work, and eventually I think he'll get it figured out at least I pray he will. I do believe that addiction is a disease and I don't believe that one choses to be an addict, I also know he can get it under control............people like you and Garry and so many others here are proof of that. And right now, he's still trying so I'm trying not to take the relapses personal ..............plus the people on the friends and family board are teaching me so much. Thank you again! |
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I did a search here using "relapse" as a keyword and came up with this, which might be what y'all are talkin' about..... from Dalin; 10/2/06; 10:25pm.... Recovery/Relapse Inventory Worksheet The whole point of this worksheet is to look back and identify and discover in what areas you failed to work your program of recovery. If we don’t learn from our relapses.....and become aware of what not to do again…..we are destined to repeat those same mistakes. If you are willing to at least look at your thinking, feelings, and behavior that led up to the relapse…..you are moving towards recovery, not away from it. It is just as important to look at assets, as well as liabilities. We look at what was working as opposed to what didn’t work and identify problem areas. These are the areas we want to bring into our awareness this time….so they won’t slip below the radar again. In what ways was I actively working my program? (explain/describe, include feelings) Meetings? Sponsor? Steps? Higher power? Service? In what areas did I let my program slide or become complacent? (explain/describe, include feelings) Meetings? Sponsor? Steps? Higher power? Service? In what ways was my life manageable?(explain/describe, include feelings) Mentally? Emotionally? Physically? Spiritually? In what ways was my life unmanageable? (explain/describe – be specific, include feelings) Mentally? Emotionally? Physically? Spiritually? What events/situations affected my life negatively? (people, places, things, relationships, work) How did I handle those events? (positive/negative) What choices (self-will) do I think led me back into unmanageability? Were these choices well thought out or impulsive reactions? Did you choose by default and ignore the warning signs) In what ways was I in denial of the direction I was heading? What circumstances could I have handled differently? In what way? How was my emotional life unmanageable without the use of drugs? (in what ways – describe feelings and over what). What were my thinking processes? (describe) Was I lying to myself? Did I justify my actions? How did my behavior change? In what ways? In what areas did I lack faith or not use my Higher Powers Guidance? In what ways did my character defects come into play? (explain/describe all areas) Denial? Dishonesty? Selfishness? Stealing? Emotional stealing others trust? Emotional, physical, sexual, financial manipulation of others? Distrust of self and others? Resentments? How they affected me and what actions did I take / or not take? Self reliance/isolation? Blame? Who did I blame for my feelings and why? Did I abandon myself? In what ways did I depend on others to meet my needs? Where did I not take responsibility for myself and my program? In what ways did I give my power to others? Now looking at the answers to all these questions – Identify the problem areas? List them: What do I need to work on? What do I need to watch for? Warning signs? Triggers? In my best thinking…..How could I actively stay aware and work my program differently this time? (explain/describe). What active actions can I take to promote my recovery? How does my behavior need to change? How will I rely on my Higher power to help me make these changes? How can I align my will with my Higher powers guidance? What can I do this time that I did not do last time to ensure a stronger program. What does a complete surrender mean to me? __________________ Though no one can go back and make a brand new start, we can all start from today and make a brand new ending. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ NoelleR DOS: 6/23/86 |
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| A Dopeless Hope Fiend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: MID-MICHIGAN
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thanks for finding this great prevent measure, this some good stuff to work through and bring back to my sponser while I am out here Road Dog-ing, as Mr. Burns would say "EXCELLENT!" ,,,keep up the up keep so to speak, LOL later family, from St.Louis MO , I am out, Dean
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| Evolving Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: New York State
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Wow! Now that's more like it! That worksheet reminds me of the kind of stuff sponsor's passed around when I was new. It gets right to the point from the start (meetings, sponsor, step work, service & HP) because these are the areas that promote recovery and slacking off in any one of them opens the door to relapse. Although it's not NA fellowship approved literature, most of the stuff we did back then wasn't either. I'm printing this out...it may come in handy. Thanks!!
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