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Old 05-22-2004, 03:40 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I'll have to see if I can arrange for someone to watch my son. We are in a very small town, no friends that are not working, and I have no cash for daycare.

I feel like there is something wrong, real wrong. I have never had a reaction to 6 beers like this. When I said my head feels like it is going to explode...I mean like it feels like it is not part of me or something...hard to explain....My eyes cannot focus. they seem to jump from place to place.
What the heck is a seizure like? God, I hope I am not having a seizure...
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Old 05-22-2004, 03:47 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Tom,

I told you before that I was bi-polar. BUT, until I was introduced to Dual-Diagnosis and Dual Recovery, I was a walking, talking relapse.

I was taught that both sides of my disease, my mental health, and my alcoholism, had to be addressed 100%.

Both sides-equally. It made sense then, and it makes sense now: If our mental health falters our quickest fix is a drink!

And if our sobriety program falters, we generally display our symptoms. (And, of course, drink.)

Tom...I want you to go to our little store here (http://www.soberrecovery.com/shop/) and do a search for dual. Find "The Dual Disorders Recovery Book" I know moneys tight, so this one is on me. I'll explain how to order for free in a PM>


Don't you dare give up Tom! There is plenty of help out there. We just need to find the right help.

No matter what...you are NOT alone.

We are right here with you...
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Old 05-22-2004, 03:54 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Tom,

I told you before that I was bi-polar. BUT, until I was introduced to Dual-Diagnosis and Dual Recovery, I was a walking, talking relapse.

I was taught that bother sides of my disease, my mental health, and my alcoholism, had to be addresses 100%.

Both sides-equally. It made sense then, and it makes sense now: If our mental health falters our quickest fix is a drink!

And if our sobriety program falters, we generally display our symptoms. (And, of course, drink.)

Tom...I want you to go to our little store here (http://www.soberrecovery.com/shop/) and do a search for dual. Find "The Dual Disorders Recovery Book" I know moneys tight, so this one is on me. I'll explain how to order for free in a PM>


Don't you dare give up Tom! There is plenty of help out there. We just need to find the right help.

No matter what...you are NOT alone.

We are right here with you...
Thanks Jon...off the record...I am Joe That's OK....it is easy to get mixed up with all the names here.
What you say made so much sense. The Bipolar is untreated, so I turn to drink, when I don't drink, the Bipolar is worse....
God, what am I gonna do...
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Old 05-22-2004, 04:00 PM   #29 (permalink)
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You are soooooooooooo kewl Jon!
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Old 05-22-2004, 04:12 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Go get the book and we'll start from there...


Just order it?
How will I pay?
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I think Jon's offering to pay for it...

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Each one of our brains is a unique chemical ecosystem.
I am uni-polar. My cocktail includes, but is not limited to: two different antidepressants. The most important thing I do everyday is take those two.
I am not alcoholic but I can rarely afford to social drink. It affects my meds. Makes me feel sick in numerous ways. A single glass of wine at dinner can mess me up.
If I drink a small flute of champagne to toast new year's I feel like I need to just go to bed.
Also many of the meds makes one more susceptible to the effects of alcohol and we can become very easily intoxicated. Intoxicated equals judgment impairment equals trouble.
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unipolar here too, listed my meds earlier.

i used to drink and do crack on Wellbutrin! Talk about a recipe for disaster. I'm surpirsed i have a brain left.
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unipolar here too, listed my meds earlier.

i used to drink and do crack on Wellbutrin! Talk about a recipe for disaster. I'm surpirsed i have a brain left.
Feelin' like I am mellowing out right now.
I never did crack, but I had my share of valium and beer or scotch.

When I was younger it was acid, beer and whatever the man would sell me.
I am lucky to be here.
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Good morning
OK, here I am again. Got to bed about 1:00am and I am already up. Not a good sleep.
I woke up with palpitations, trembling, nauseous and very sad and teary.
Also have racing thoughts.
I am not going to drink today.
What can I discuss with the doc tomorrow so he gives me something to help this along?
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Joe......... tell us what happens with the doc tomorrow!!!!
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Joe......... tell us what happens with the doc tomorrow!!!!
Ann, right???

Hope I got your name right.

I will post here when I hear anything and let you know.

I had dinner a bit ago and I am so sick. I feel all sorts of panic going on. I feel my wife is drifting away from me. She seems to be losing interest in me and is getting tired of listening to me say I am not well. How quickly she forgets when she was going through this I was there for her. Now, all she does is work, and I do EVERYTHING else. How can I mend. I food shop, balance the books, cook, clean, do laundry, do homework with my son, and take care of the cars and all the land. Man I am burnt out!
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Ann it is.

Right now your focus has to be on the bipolar. Have you told your wife the things you are willing to do to change? What you are going to tell the psyciatrist? That maybe he'll treat you with the changes? Also, tell him about the panic attacks...... there are SSRI's and other non addictive meds which deal with panic.

Does your wife know that getting a job will be possible with your bipolar under control?

Maybe she's waiting to see if you'll walk your talk.

She MIGHT be tired of hearing about how unwell you are. That's what therapists and pdocs(psychiatrists) are for. That's what this site and pm's are for. I try to not gripe to jamie (s/o) about my mental probs....... that's what my therapist is for. My griping almost broke up our relationship.

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It was probably hard for YOU when she was going thru her stuff. Even if you handled it better than she did, remember.... she is a DIFFERENT person, with different tolerance levels.

Right now i would say that doing everything else IS your job! She's holding down the fort with the money. Your burnt out feeling should lessen if you get your meds under control....... now your fighting untreated bipolar plus holding down the fort.

I'm glad you're eating, even if you feel sick to your stomach.

Sorry if i've said some stuff you don't want to hear, but that's the way I see it. And bear in mind...... I'm one person. One person who isn't perfect.
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No offense taken :)

Ann,
I just needed to hear that from an "outsider" I guess.

I already sent 2 emails to my psych, and left a voicemail.
I am asking to go back on Lithium, stay on klonopin or maybe ativan, and eventually try wellbutrin or effexor both of which failed at one point. But that was because I drank a little here and there.

Buspar is also good for anxiety but has no anti-depressant effect.
Lexapro, effexor, paxil, zoloft and remeron all had horrible sexual side effects.
I have been on every drug on the market.
Abilify made me sleep all day. I'm a mess. I'll let you know what happens, OK?

I know he mentioned a drug called Geodon, but my health plan doesn't cover it. I think Lithium is a safe way to go and it works!
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I am really glad that i could help!! I was seriously wondering if I was going to **** you off with that last post!

Please let us know what you find out from your doc. My prayers are with you!
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(((Ann)))

No, you didn't **** me off at all. I don't know when this doc will call, but as soon as he does, i'll let you know what's up.
In the meantime I woke up feeling like hell. Palpitations, chest pain, short of breath, etc., and I took my klonopin right before bed.
I cannot take this anymore, and I don't think lithium addresses these issues I am waking up with. We'll see what he says. Oh, and I can't eat again.
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I just want to mention that I just got the Dual Disorders book from Jon.

Jon, if you are out there, thank you brother. I am getting into it right away.
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