Hearing Voices

[Easeful]

Over the course of the last week, my son has told three different Dr.'s in his outpatient treatment program that he is hearing a voice that is telling him to kill them. ie while he is speaking to them, they make him angry and the voice tells him to kill them and he repeats the message aloud. The Dr.'s did not share this with me. Eventually my son did.

When I asked the Dr.'s about this, their response is that they don't think my son is a danger to himself or anyone else since he recognizes that the voice is a product of his illness and not an actual command from a diety.

They did up his lithium, zyprexa and clonopine (sp?) after the 3rd time he reported the voice.

I think they're naive beyond words. I think this is how people end up getting shot in school auditoriums (or possibly get killed while sleeping in their own beds). Anyone have any insight to share?

[BUTTERFLY-7]

DEAR FRIEND: whats causing your son to have this events is the dellututions of so many prescription his summit it too take the side effects take your reasoning and reality away if he just star it it will take a while for him to addjust to them but my advice to you as a parent star praying it was when we where in our righ mind we did poor decisions and choices imagene a mind clutter with so much pills i know cause im bipolar suppose and the first time they prescribe my meds it was too many milligrams for my system they where giving me 5oo mlgmm. my heart fellt like it want it to come out my shirt i whent to some errence with my son and i felt like i was going to pass out my knees got week my god I didnt have no control whats so ever of me so they lower it to 200 mlgmms but lost my inssurance in 2005 and ever since i havent been able to get my meds and too be honest i feel good not that i dont need them because the symptoms of bipolar mannefests in many stages but just for today im ok what has help me eas my faith in god and going to church and been around possitive people my prayers will b with u and ur son may GOD BLESS YOU AND YOUR SON,BLESS&B-BLESS

[barb dwyer]

Ease -

Wow.
How terrifying for him.
How terrifying for you.

I am truly so very sorry this isn't getting any better for either of you.

[Done_With_It]

Originally Posted by Easeful

Over the course of the last week, my son has told three different Dr.'s in his outpatient treatment program that he is hearing a voice that is telling him to kill them. ie while he is speaking to them, they make him angry and the voice tells him to kill them and he repeats the message aloud. The Dr.'s did not share this with me. Eventually my son did.

When I asked the Dr.'s about this, their response is that they don't think my son is a danger to himself or anyone else since he recognizes that the voice is a product of his illness and not an actual command from a diety.

They did up his lithium, zyprexa and clonopine (sp?) after the 3rd time he reported the voice.

I think they're naive beyond words. I think this is how people end up getting shot in school auditoriums (or possibly get killed while sleeping in their own beds). Anyone have any insight to share?

No, not normal and not okay at all.
Not normal for bipolar and not a normal side effect of medications.

I think you are right to be concerned and everything you said.
If it were my son I would have him at the ER so fast, or in any doctors office until someone believed me.

'Most' doctors take stuff like that Very seriously.
MY doctors even ask me stuff like that at times, and I tell them no all the time, but they say they just 'have' to check for safety reasons and the law.

I had to sign something today saying if they ever felt I was a danger to myself or anyone else, the confidentiality is no longer valid.

I would do something quick. Not normal at all.

JMO...

I'm so sorry you are going through this.

[historyteach]

Agreed. I don't think this is normal at all.
And I would be highly upset that these doctors didn't take it seriously.

No one here can give the "cause" of this behavior. Your son is very ill. And we all wish him well.

Please let us know how he's doing.
And you too.

Shalom!

[TiredMama]

Originally Posted by Done-With-It

No, not normal and not okay at all.
Not normal for bipolar and not a normal side effect of medications.

I think you are right to be concerned and everything you said.
If it were my son I would have him at the ER so fast, or in any doctors office until someone believed me.

'Most' doctors take stuff like that Very seriously.
MY doctors even ask me stuff like that at times, and I tell them no all the time, but they say they just 'have' to check for safety reasons and the law.

I had to sign something today saying if they ever felt I was a danger to myself or anyone else, the confidentiality is no longer valid.

I would do something quick. Not normal at all.

JMO...

I'm so sorry you are going through this.

I agree with this 10056454 %. Please get them to really listen to you. I know you are trying so hard but this isn't normal.

[Impurrfect]

((((Ease)))

Sending YOU huge and hugs and prayers, along with prayers that the doctors LISTEN to you and do something!

Amy

[Easeful]

I just got off of the phone with our insurance company. They have a mental health management team assigned to us now. I guess if you run up six figures in medical bills in 3 months you can get some special attention.

Anyway, I had my son set up to see a psychiatrist next week who is ultimately supposed to be "the go to guy" for us. It takes 6 to 8 weeks to get in to see him and I had to cancel the last one because of his second hospitalization. My son was supposed to be through with iop by now but they're wanting to extend his care there by another month. The person running my son's therapy at IOP insisted that I cancel the appt. (even though it will be 2 months before I can get another one) that there was absolutely no need and it would in fact be illegal to see a second psychiatrist while he was under their care at the iop. Having at least a few paranoid tendancies of my own, I think that perhaps they know a cash cow when they catch one.

Bottom line the person I spoke with at the insurance company insisted that we keep the appt. with the outside psychiatrist even if our son does continue in the iop program. And these are they guys who'll have to pay the bill.

[Easeful]

On going to the ER. I'm going at this one hour at a time. For the moment he seems ok. And I do have a 24/7 Crisis Intervention number. The trick is to not end up dead before I make the call.

I do so appreciate the prayers. Sometimes it feels like that is the only hope there is.

[Done_With_It]

Your doing great Easeful.. I agree with everything you said/and did.
Big hugs out to you...

Love & Light..

[historyteach]

My prayers for you and your son...

Shalom!

[barb dwyer]

*PRAYERS*

Ps - I agree about the 'cash show' something ...somewhere..is being milked.

[mxchaos]

I take moban for the voices and it seems to work well good luck getting rid of them