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This sticky is dedicated to the issue of Self Harm. It is a little known, and little understood issue. Hopefully, the information found here, and the sharing that results, will lead to a better understanding for all of us. The following link will lead you to important information and research about Self Harm, or "cutting." It was on the anxiety forum a few years ago. Feel free to discuss any issues found on it here.... http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...lf-injury.html (Self-Injury) My gratitude to MG for this information. ![]() Shalom!
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I was a cutter...I know from my own experience its all a matter of just not feeling the emotional torture...it sways away from that pain and brings on a whole other that in itself is relieving...Im grateful i only did it for a short period of time and that I grew from it knowing that cutting myself was really going to end up being yet another addiction to my list and maybe even one far worse then others....eventually i did end up trying to take my life and it was a stepping stone to that......I am thankful to be here today and feel for those that where once in my place years ago.....Just know in the end the healing from within will not take place from cutting on the outside......
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The following is from our own Miss Done-With-It. I am sincerely grateful for her contributions to my understanding of this issue, and for all her sharings. ![]() Quote:
Feel free to print out this ICL to log your own impulses. Share whatever you feel appropriate with us as you wish. __________________ IMPULSE CONTROL LOG 1.SELF-INJURY THOUGHTS: 2.TIME AND DATE: 3.LOCATION: 4.SITUATION: 5.FEELING: 6.WHAT WOULD BE THE RESULT OF SELF-INJURY? 7. WHAT WOULD I BE TRYING TO COMMUNICATE WITH MY SELF-INJURY? 8.ACTION TAKEN: 9.COMMENTS: This is some powerful stuff! I hope you find it helpful... L'Chaim! (To Life!)
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Thank you daisy for you insight. My oldest daughter went through a period of time when she cut. It was frightening to watch her go through it. I have learned that I have similar tendencies although I have not taken them to a cutting extreme yet. Hopefully I never will. Counseling and treatment for my fear of emotion is something I hope will teach me enough about the disease and my own feelings that I am better able to help myself and others.
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The following Bill of Rights was made into law by the person who wrote it. (I'm not sure what state, but, I think it may be California.) Quote:
![]() This is an excellent model for other states to follow. If your state doesn't have a Bill of Rights similar to this, for people who self harm, feel free to copy this and take it to your state representative, or senator. All states needs to deal with these issues in a fair, humane manner. :ghug L'Chaim!
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hi Nandm No problem on the story, i feel as though im really not ashamed of who and what i am, nor what ive been through....but i am learning to be more careful about whom i tell (like dates!) I cant even imagine the thought of seeing my child do something as torturous as this to themselves.....But I was alone and no one ever saw me, and no one ever saw the cuts either..Its a very personal problem that most dont want to share, so I am glad you knew about it and where able to help her.....Our emotions can be our biggest battles, least for me it is, and when you feel hopeless, useless and unloved (or so you think) it makes it very easy for oneself to hurt themselves.....Today is my first day on this site, and already i see myself coming out of the gloom i was in and ready to possibly start quitting my current addictions....before i used to tell myself that it takes one day at a time...now i know its more like one minute at a time.... |
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I was quite surprised to see that scratching was one form of SI. I once did that as a child. I was almost in a trance, and didn't even know I was doing it, until I "woke up" and found a big cut on my wrist from scratching it over and over. It was the only time I did it, but, I still, to this day, remember it. I don't know if that fits the profile or not. It just makes me think. And yes, there was an awful lot of emotional turmoil in my childhood. Come to think of it...there is still now, in my adulthood! LOL! How did you find your healing, if I may ask? Shalom!
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Nan, That fear of emotion you speak of is interesting to me. We wern't allowed to express any negative emotions as children. "Don't cry or I'll give you something to cry about" was a common statement from mom. Dad just gave a back hand to us. Children were to be seen and NOT heard! To this day, I have a very difficult time expressing myself appropriately. I either stuff it, (to quote Archie Bunker), or I rage. I'm learning to control the rage much better now, but, still can't get to the appropriate expression of emotions. Anger makes me cry most often now. ![]() Hopefully, some day, I will learn. Better be soon. I'm well past middle age now! Shalom! PS, I also use humor.
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My healing...gosh......it took me almost dying to find my way...to be at the brink of death to see that what i was doing was sooo very foolish......but in a way i felt like i had to go that distance...i grew up very suicidal and always wanting to die....well after many attempts this was my very worst and closest one.....never mind traumatic! I went to a mental hospital and was around so many beautiful wonderful people that have and where going through much worse torture than i could ever in my life imagine..and for the first time i saw the light..the light that said "what the hell are you doing, your life's problems are nothing in comparison" ...so i guess you could say i learned my lesson the hard way...like i always do.....but now I still struggle but never in my life will i cut or try and kill myself again......There are days, like today, where i find myself in dark places and struggle still to be happy...but i dont give up..i keep looking...and thats how i ended up here today |
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The humor isn't too bad; the crying sucks! Thanks for your sharing, again. It's true, I've found too, that there are many others with many worse problems than mine. Hard to imagine when I'm stuck inside my head. But, giving to others, like here on SR, for example, is one way to help me get *out* of that place. *most of the time* ![]() Shalom!
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Hi, Of course we can accept you here. ![]() I'm not sure what your asking permission to post, I personally just try and make sure my posts aren't or won't trigger anyone when it comes to self harm, etc. But there are also mods on here to help out with that. There's not a whole lot of SI'ers on here, but a few of us around. Welcome!
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(((unscarred))) Yes, you *are* welcome on the MH forum of SR!!! ![]() Always... Just know, we can help only as much as you are willing to help yourself. Said with total love. Cuz your dx is more than my experience can share...though I can share some. ![]() Shalom! |
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I'm sorry, but, I don't understand your criptic style. Do you need help? Please call 911 if so, and say you are in trouble. They can assist you. Otherwise, what are you saying with those ... I don't know... lyrics? ![]() Please let us know. Cuz, we care. ![]() Shalom!
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How long ago was it that you almost cut your arm off. If you are doing things like that, and you've almost died from cutting or have died three times before, then you really need to be in the hospital. I know how it is to want to help someone, but we have to be in the position to help ourselves before we can begin to even think of helping someone else. We can help as much as we can and we do want you here, but I hope you are also getting RT help. There's only so much a forum can do, especially if you are drinking and cutting.. Many hugs and love and light out to you.
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A hospital can not deny you service if you are suicidal. It is against the law. Insurance or no insurance. Call 911 or go to the ER. I think you should put down the bottle and stop drinking, your making this worse/harder on yourself.
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We all have issues, we all have problems. I've cut, I've had an ED, I had issues in my childhood, I have bipolar, I have no insurance, I could go on and on and on and on. No it's not my 'fault' unless I don't do anything about it. Like I said that's great that you want to help, but when your doing things like almost cutting your arm off, dying on hospital room tables, drinking all night, then you don't need to be helping anyone but yourself. You don't need to go anywhere, and I'm not trying to sound like a bitch. But from what you've posted, your life is in jeopardy, this isn't a game. You need to take some action, or your not going to be here much longer.
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Yes, but I've done this before with cutters who are drinking, and it's dangerous. I can and am your friend. But I don't know what to say to stop you from cutting. IF I could "Stop You" from cutting, TRUST ME.... I would.. But I'm not qualified to talk to someone who is drinking and cutting. I'm talking from experience, been here tried this before. Best thing you can do for yourself is to stop drinking right now and go to bed, and get a good nights sleep. We can help you better when you are sober. I have been this alone before, yes. I was this alone when I found SR. But I had to quit all my habits in order to let people here help me. Your a good person who deserves to let themselves be helped. Please just go crawl in bed and get a good nights sleep.??? Everything else will be here tomorrow. :ghug
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| Please listen to Done; she is one of the best people I know with experience in this matter. Get some rest and come on back I am sure you will find help.
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With gratitude to Miss Done, for more fine research! ![]() Quote:
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