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louis · 03-06-2009, 10:37 AM

Hi...

If anyone knows a better forum for this to be in other than the bin... please move it....
I am in serious need of educational help....
I have to do a presentation on tuesday at college (course im doing through work).... i am NOT speaking YEAHHHHHH!!!!! (nearly pee'd my pants when told about it....in 6 months of course time i havent spoken once in the group setting)... anyway... im going off topic about being off topic....

I've been searching the net for over a week for the answer to my problem and im screwed...'mentally and optically (not sure if i just made that word up :o)'

Question:
A disabled lady goes for a job interview... is basically told wont get the job because she is disabled.
Lady takes them to tribunal....
My part of presentation is to find out:
How much would it cost and who pays???????

If anyone wants something to do over the weekend or knows the answer... please speak up and forever not hold your peace....
My last resort is trying citizens advice... but im crap talking on the phone...

Have checked out all the discrimination laws/acts etc.... but no one gives prices!!!

As i wrote in post it would definately not be fun.... SORRY

P.s..... this is in UK.

Thankyou for reading anyway/ in advance

Be well
louis

WLDKATZ · 03-06-2009, 10:59 AM

it is a civil case and discrimination, btw you can find out at the ACLU web site, any ways it is the company who is being sued that pays and it is up to the judge to determine how much they have to pay...............good luck

Pamm

WLDKATZ · 03-06-2009, 12:07 PM

Aclu(american civil liberties union.org)

SoberforME · 03-06-2009, 12:18 PM

I am not sure because you are in Scotland. That's hard.

My assumption would be that if she sued on compensatory damages that the company would pay if she won the case, if she didn't win then she would have to pay it.

Costs would depend on how long the case took to trial but I'm not sure how the Scottish judicial system works.

Here's a link to information about Disability law in Scotland. Just cut and paste it into the browser. www.surestart.gov.uk/_doc/P0000745.doc

In Part:

If an employee wants to make a complaint about the way I have treated them in connection with their disability, what should he or she do?

They can complain to an employment tribunal. They can ring the DRC Helpline for advice on their case. Once they have made a complaint to an employment tribunal, the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service (Acas) will then advise you and your employees, if you want them to, to help you reach an agreement. This service is free and voluntary for both sides. If the matter is not settled, the complaint will go to a full tribunal hearing. There are details of how to contact Acas at the end of this factsheet.
The leaflet ‘How to Apply to an Employment Tribunal’ is available from offices of Jobcentre Plus (formerly the Employment Service) and the Citizens’ Advice Bureau.
Do they have to do this within a certain amount of time?
Yes. If an employee wants to make a disability discrimination claim to an employment tribunal, they must do so within three months of the incident happening.
Will I have to pay compensation to an employee?
If an employment tribunal supports a complaint, you may have to pay compensation. The tribunal may also recommend that you take a particular course of action, which may involve taking reasonable steps to prevent, or reduce the threat of, discrimination happening again.
The civil courts deal with all other matters relating to the Act. For example, if you are a service provider and a customer makes a complaint against you, the court would decide the outcome of the issue.
Other information
Free leaflets include
• 'The Disability Discrimination Act 1995: What Employers Need to Know' (DL170)
• 'Employing Disabled People: a good-practice guide for managers and employers' (DLE7 information cards)
• 'The Disability Discrimination Act 1995: An Introduction for Small and Medium-sized Businesses: Rights of Access to Goods, Facilities, Services and Premises' (DLE9) and
• 'The Disability Discrimination Act 1995: What Service Providers Need to Know' (DL150).
You can get these leaflets, and more general information about the Act, from the DRC Helpline on Tel 0845 762 2633 or by textphone on Tel 0845 762 2644. (Your call will cost the same as a local phone call.) Or you can e-mail them at ddahelp@stra.sitel.co.uk. DRC also has a website which you can find in Related Items.
'Equal Opportunities is Your Business Too' is a brief good-practice guide produced jointly by the Commission for Racial Equality, the Equal Opportunities Commission and the former National Disability Council. It is available free from the Commission for Racial Equality on Tel 0207 932 5437.
You can also buy the following publications
• 'Disability Discrimination Act 1995: Code of Practice for the elimination of discrimination in the field of employment against disabled persons or persons who have had a disability' (ISBN 0-11-270954-0)
• 'Disability Discrimination Act 1995: Code of Practice - Rights of Access - Goods, Facilities, Services and Premises' (ISBN 0-11-271055-7)
• 'Disability Discrimination Act 1995: Guidance on matters to be taken into account in determining questions relating to the definition of disability' ISBN 0-11-270955-9)
The codes provide practical guidance that will help organisations prevent discrimination. Following the guidelines should reduce complaints against small businesses. The codes and guidance include a wide range of examples, covering a variety of types of employment and disabilities.
You can get copies of the codes (including Braille, audio cassette and Welsh versions) from The Stationery Office or from Stationery Office bookshops.

louis · 03-09-2009, 09:13 AM

Thankyou...
I really appreciate your help and time.
Sorry i have not been able to get back to you before now... not had access to a computer.... i tried doing it through my phone internet access but by the time i wrote out what i had wanted to say the page had expired...
Technology and me don't mix so well.

Again thankyou thouogh.... i looked through what you had replied and found it useful.

Be well
louis

03-06-2009, 10:37 AM	#1 (permalink)
louis Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Here's me. but when drinking could be found in doorways! Posts: 809	Off topic but not fun Hi... If anyone knows a better forum for this to be in other than the bin... please move it.... I am in serious need of educational help.... I have to do a presentation on tuesday at college (course im doing through work).... i am NOT speaking YEAHHHHHH!!!!! (nearly pee'd my pants when told about it....in 6 months of course time i havent spoken once in the group setting)... anyway... im going off topic about being off topic.... I've been searching the net for over a week for the answer to my problem and im screwed...'mentally and optically (not sure if i just made that word up :o)' Question: A disabled lady goes for a job interview... is basically told wont get the job because she is disabled. Lady takes them to tribunal.... My part of presentation is to find out: How much would it cost and who pays??????? If anyone wants something to do over the weekend or knows the answer... please speak up and forever not hold your peace.... My last resort is trying citizens advice... but im crap talking on the phone... Have checked out all the discrimination laws/acts etc.... but no one gives prices!!! As i wrote in post it would definately not be fun.... SORRY P.s..... this is in UK. Thankyou for reading anyway/ in advance Be well louis

03-06-2009, 10:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
WLDKATZ Hell on Wheels Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Flint MI Posts: 4,439	it is a civil case and discrimination, btw you can find out at the ACLU web site, any ways it is the company who is being sued that pays and it is up to the judge to determine how much they have to pay...............good luck Pamm __________________ Good Better best never let it rest until you kick the dog shi! out of the looser!!!!!!!!!

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WLDKATZ Hell on Wheels Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Flint MI Posts: 4,439	Aclu(american civil liberties union.org) __________________ Good Better best never let it rest until you kick the dog shi! out of the looser!!!!!!!!!

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03-06-2009, 12:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
SoberforME Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 175	I am not sure because you are in Scotland. That's hard. My assumption would be that if she sued on compensatory damages that the company would pay if she won the case, if she didn't win then she would have to pay it. Costs would depend on how long the case took to trial but I'm not sure how the Scottish judicial system works. Here's a link to information about Disability law in Scotland. Just cut and paste it into the browser. www.surestart.gov.uk/_doc/P0000745.doc In Part: If an employee wants to make a complaint about the way I have treated them in connection with their disability, what should he or she do? They can complain to an employment tribunal. They can ring the DRC Helpline for advice on their case. Once they have made a complaint to an employment tribunal, the Advisory, Conciliation and Arbitration Service (Acas) will then advise you and your employees, if you want them to, to help you reach an agreement. This service is free and voluntary for both sides. If the matter is not settled, the complaint will go to a full tribunal hearing. There are details of how to contact Acas at the end of this factsheet. The leaflet ‘How to Apply to an Employment Tribunal’ is available from offices of Jobcentre Plus (formerly the Employment Service) and the Citizens’ Advice Bureau. Do they have to do this within a certain amount of time? Yes. If an employee wants to make a disability discrimination claim to an employment tribunal, they must do so within three months of the incident happening. Will I have to pay compensation to an employee? If an employment tribunal supports a complaint, you may have to pay compensation. The tribunal may also recommend that you take a particular course of action, which may involve taking reasonable steps to prevent, or reduce the threat of, discrimination happening again. The civil courts deal with all other matters relating to the Act. For example, if you are a service provider and a customer makes a complaint against you, the court would decide the outcome of the issue. Other information Free leaflets include • 'The Disability Discrimination Act 1995: What Employers Need to Know' (DL170) • 'Employing Disabled People: a good-practice guide for managers and employers' (DLE7 information cards) • 'The Disability Discrimination Act 1995: An Introduction for Small and Medium-sized Businesses: Rights of Access to Goods, Facilities, Services and Premises' (DLE9) and • 'The Disability Discrimination Act 1995: What Service Providers Need to Know' (DL150). You can get these leaflets, and more general information about the Act, from the DRC Helpline on Tel 0845 762 2633 or by textphone on Tel 0845 762 2644. (Your call will cost the same as a local phone call.) Or you can e-mail them at ddahelp@stra.sitel.co.uk. DRC also has a website which you can find in Related Items. 'Equal Opportunities is Your Business Too' is a brief good-practice guide produced jointly by the Commission for Racial Equality, the Equal Opportunities Commission and the former National Disability Council. It is available free from the Commission for Racial Equality on Tel 0207 932 5437. You can also buy the following publications • 'Disability Discrimination Act 1995: Code of Practice for the elimination of discrimination in the field of employment against disabled persons or persons who have had a disability' (ISBN 0-11-270954-0) • 'Disability Discrimination Act 1995: Code of Practice - Rights of Access - Goods, Facilities, Services and Premises' (ISBN 0-11-271055-7) • 'Disability Discrimination Act 1995: Guidance on matters to be taken into account in determining questions relating to the definition of disability' ISBN 0-11-270955-9) The codes provide practical guidance that will help organisations prevent discrimination. Following the guidelines should reduce complaints against small businesses. The codes and guidance include a wide range of examples, covering a variety of types of employment and disabilities. You can get copies of the codes (including Braille, audio cassette and Welsh versions) from The Stationery Office or from Stationery Office bookshops.

03-09-2009, 09:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
louis Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Here's me. but when drinking could be found in doorways! Posts: 809	Thankyou... I really appreciate your help and time. Sorry i have not been able to get back to you before now... not had access to a computer.... i tried doing it through my phone internet access but by the time i wrote out what i had wanted to say the page had expired... Technology and me don't mix so well. Again thankyou thouogh.... i looked through what you had replied and found it useful. Be well louis

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