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| Member | http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061230/...e_mi_ea/saddam Finally http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/...n2309460.shtml I guess we will be hearing about this for a while.
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| On a tear Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Volcano Country!
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Why was this so hard for me to hear? I expected it, intellectually, I think it was appropriate, but it hurt to hear it. Bleeding heart liberal? Over-compassionate? Weak? I am glad I didn't dance in the street... I wouldn't like to feel glee at his death... but I didn't like hearing it, and I don't know why. Any insights?
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Im glad to hear it. He was a criminal. A cold blooded killer. He tortured and murdered thousands. If it wasnt for all the snow, I probably would be dancing in the streets. He was pure evil. I just wish he could have suffered a bit more. Iraqi American's are celebrating tonight. And dancing in the streets. Finally, relief for millions. Lets not forget 3000 American soldiers have given their lives for this.
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I am by no means a bleeding heart liberal, and I'm glad he's gone, but I DO NOT think we should have been instrumental in it. We should not be the world's police. I will leave it with one thought and not get into a long political debate. We went after the wrong middle east country.
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| Trying to do the right thing. Join Date: May 2006 Location: London
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After seein those men Hanging in Fallujhia,...It wont be long before its out on Youtube ,....and the Telly...! Im Glad he got the Justice that was coming,...! We just need to Remeber that he was and is just a puppet in the Bigger picture ,...! We are still at war ...! JMO...!
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No matter how just or fair our reasoning it out say it should have been done... it is still a human life. For me, it is a reminder of all that he killed and that in and of itself can bring a sadness.
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I hate to say it but it looks like the guy on left hooking up a support wire just like the movies. Also look at the bulky clothing he is wearing a safety harness under his cloths. I say it is fake.
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Lots of DEVILS in the world.
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although he was a criminal, but still, he took lives true, but he had life too, taking a life is not easy thing to do, believe me, soul is precious, u can't take anybody's soul, if it was up to u, i know u woulnd't kill a man, to be honest, i felt sad. I do whenever i hear about a death of human, whether he was criminal or not.
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umemployable, that was my first thought too. lots of video leading UP to the execution, but no footage of the actual death. i did, however, read that the victims were allowed to view the body, so hopefully that was not a lie. unfortunately, i am left to wonder as well
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i'm probably sounding paranoid, but read the wording in this: http://www.coshoctontribune.com/apps...EWS01/61230001
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I still think they should of put it on pay per view, would of made millions$$$ I know i would of watched it, in my opinion the anti christ is dead!
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| Illegitimi Non Carborundum Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Old Home Terra
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I note that they apparently used the more humane hanging method that snaps the neck first rather than the old English "Dancing The Danny Deaver" method that causes you to suffocate while your blood vessels explode. In my mind, that is right and proper. Personally, I have no desire to see the actual footage. I do wonder about the mark on his cheek. Did he hit the scaffolding as he swung? Or did they turn off the camera, then smack him a few with rifle butts first? . . . I was there for the Gulf War Part I. To me this is unfinished business and I would have shot him myself given the opportunity. But there's a difference between combat and an execution. Remember though, that starting with the footage of his capture, he's been portrayed basically as a broken old man. Beginning with the footage of the doctor's examination -- calculated to "de-mystify" him in the public eye, especially the Iraqi public eye -- we've been reminded that he's just a man. This works both ways: a) he's not some "god-like world dictator", which is what he considered himself; and b) if you look at the stills with a certain eye, you could almost see him as someone's grandfather. He's just a man, and an execution doesn't have the impetus which a combat killing does. But remember this folks... You would have the same... "misgivings"? ... if it were Hitler that had been captured and tried and portrayed and executed as Saddam was. Instead, Hitler killed himself before he was captured. Saddam didn't. And that's the primary difference between the two. The only other major difference was that Hitler was more "successful". Saddam didn't achieve the same level of organization, or efficiency, or scale that Hitler did, but the aspirations and mindset were the same. Never doubt that. Saddam was cut from the same cloth as Hitler was. Hitler was just better at it. Flame me and ban me if you must, but my personal opinion on this whole thing can be summed up as follows: [Cues the munchkins] "... Ding Dong, Saddam is DEAD!!! ..." And that's all I have to say about that.
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BigSis; Every human being is made in the image of G*D. Though I also knew it was coming, it saddens me also. I think, for me, it's the loss of the potential; for what may have been. Also, I am fundamentally against the death penalty. (This is not up for debate; it is my opinion only.) But, he made his choices, and had to live with the consequences of his choices. In his case, that meant to die under the new laws of Iraq. May he RIP. He's dead; we don't beat the dead in this country. That's barbaric. mikiglen, The language is legalese. I don't think it portends anything important. The US is really a conspiracy theory country! LOL! We LOVE a good conspiracy! Started with the Revolution, when we blamed good ole King George for everything wrong under the stars! ![]() Shalom!
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I have no objections to how Iraq's laws and court determined Saddam's fate. Bush's war has wreaked hell and havoc on the people of Iraq, and caused far more atrocities than Saddam in my opinion. He ignores the will of the people of the USA. Who will hold him accountable? |
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BigSis, I felt the same as you...it was very hard for me to hear. The whole thing and the media spread gives me a very unsettled feeling in the pit of my stomach. Poorme, I share the same sentiments as you, as well as zencat and others here. frankie_b, your post reminded me of another post I saw on another forum "The United States created a monster, then killed it" This whole thing disturbs and saddens me...but, the earth will take care of itself and us, too. Happy New Year. |
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| On The Bus Join Date: May 2004 Location: Brattleboro, Vt.
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Bush is right. You cant really judge historical decisions while you are in the middle of living in them. IMHO
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He had a trial. Something he himself denied hundreds of thousands of others, and just skipped right to the execution part, even some of his family. He did allow some to be tortured though, but thats not the same as a trial. His trial was just for one year in the 80s too.... That's all I have to say about that. |
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I felt absolutely ill and sick at heart when he was executed and horrified that pictures were published of his death. We, as a species, should be beyond this. The death penalty is nothing more than legalised murder. I agree that he comitted monstrous acts but feel that he should have been locked up until the end of his days.
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