It seems like I won't ever lose weight, I'm doing everything the right way too.

[Cleansing]

Well that's a lie, I have one major fault in my weight loss program, and it makes me what to give up on everything. just so you know, I'm male 5' 9" 174 pounds, trying to be 165-168. Let me tell you what i do

I excercise about 6-7 days a week, sometimes twice a day, at least an hour each session. Sometimes I jog, sometimes I use my sprintmaster/gazelle. then after that I'll do 90 crunches, 45-60 reverse crunches, 66 pushups, 45 leg raises each leg, and some calf raises still i can't do anymore.

I eat a pretty light breakfast and lunch. not a lot of calories or fat intake during those meals.
Dinner is usually heavier though. But overall it's a reduced-fat, reduced calorie diet. The reason I use that diet is because of
Alli.

I'm on Alii. Now I stay away from diet pills, but Alii is different. First of all, it's been rated by many media outlets as one of the best diet plans out there because it actually works. Its primary function is preventing the absorption of fats from the human diet, thereby reducing caloric intake. Alli inhibits the enzymes that break down triglycerides in the intestine, so about 25 percent of the fat/triglycerides don't convert into absorbable fatty acids, instead, they are excreted undigested, so you end up taking in less of the bad stuff, thus the weight loss. It contains no stimulants or any extra ingredients besides orlistat, which main purpose is to excrete some of the fat undigested. It's safe, doesn't interact with any psych meds, and effective. Alli only works on enzymes that break down fat, not on other enzymes. So carbohydrates and proteins are not affected. You still absorb those nutrients.

NOW, with all of that going goood, i mess up EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. It's like I excercise eat we;l all day just to munch on stuff from like 11pm-1am. I eat chips, bagels, pop tarts, toaster strudles, sandwhiches, cookies, pudding, yogurt.
I CANNOT STOP the late night cravings, Makes me want to give up on everything, just forget the excercise, forget eating well, im just gonna blow it at night.

What do you think? i mean Im having a lot of trouble with the late night eating. Should i just give it all up, or is it best the way it is? Better to do mostly good than no good at all? I need some motivation or tips. I drink a lot of tea and water at night, but that does nothing, I still eat my a$$ offf.

Once again, I'm a male 5' 9" 174 pounds, trying to be 165-168.

[itisatruth]

First of all.....good for you doing all you are already doing!

As far as the late night cravings, the only thing that really worked for me was to not have the stuff in the house. Seriously, if it's here I'll snack on it. I gave up sugar for health reasons years ago so that's not so bad for me, but the salty stuff - popcorn with real butter and lots of salt, chips, nachos.....mm - mmm -- mmmmm. So, I just don't buy it.

So that's what worked for me....hope you find something that works for you.

[Cleansing]

Yeah, I don't live alone. I live with my family. So they buy all that junk even though they're not suppossed to eat it either. My mom wants to lose weight, my dad is diabetic.

It's just day with being sober, I find myself coping with feelings by eating at night. It just feels real good to pig out right before bed. Plus im mad hungry, so I eat for the hunger as well. Partof the problem is that I fall asleep too late, so that gives me time to get hungry. If I could just fall alseep before 11. maybe 12am, i wouldn't eat so much.

I just came back from a 20 minute run, gonna do the rest of my excercise now.

[Cleansing]

It's like I fear the end of the day. I fight the drug cravings and alcohol cravings well, they ren't so strong nowadays. I try to eat good all day long. today I had a greasy pizza, I gave in early. I try not to go spend money on junk i don't need. im depriving myself of a lot of stuff throughout the day, and it just bothers me that that Im just gonna pig out late night. I'm too tired to fight the cravings at bedtime. Im excercising which I don't like too much, eating well, staying sober, Im exhausted from living healthy, I just want to let loose at night.

I try not to think about it too much because then I'll feel sad knowing that Im throwing it all away. So I let let the night time come, If I eat a lot, I do , if i don't, then good. I usually decide to eat a lot though .

[tkdan]

Hey cleansing,
Part of the problem could be that you are not taking in near enough calories during the day for all of the working out you do, so your body is starving by night time. I do struggle with late night eating too. I try to at least keep it to something healthy, fruit and nuts mostly. I'm with itisatruth, if I have it in the house I will eat it. That is why I do not keep icecream in my freezer, because I love it. I have heard that brushing your teeth and using mouthwash helps some people with late night cravings. Hope this helps.

[Cleansing]

thanx for the suggestions. I just don't feel very hungry until about dinner time, that's why my dinner is larger portions than breakfast and lunch. I could have fruit and water at night, but that just makes m want more junk. I think I'll try brushing my teeth earlier and using the mouthwash.

[GiveLove]

Cleansing, how many calories do you take in every day, not counting your binges?

I have the same symptoms at night when I have been trying to cut calories TOO much, or remove too much fat from my diet. Also, Alli is thought to be good because it blocks fat absorption, but there is such a thing as not getting enough healthy fats (nuts, avocados, etc.) I've experienced insomnia, dry skin/hair, cravings, depression, etc. as a result of an extremely low-fat diet.

Anyway, when I run, I HAVE to have a high-carbohydrate evening snack or else I will eat the whole house down in the middle of the night. A toasted bagel and jam is my personal miracle cure for that

[1KitGer]

Originally Posted by Cleansing

Well that's a lie, I have one major fault in my weight loss program, and it makes me what to give up on everything. just so you know, I'm male 5' 9" 174 pounds, trying to be 165-168. Let me tell you what i do

I excercise about 6-7 days a week, sometimes twice a day, at least an hour each session. Sometimes I jog, sometimes I use my sprintmaster/gazelle. then after that I'll do 90 crunches, 45-60 reverse crunches, 66 pushups, 45 leg raises each leg, and some calf raises still i can't do anymore.

I eat a pretty light breakfast and lunch. not a lot of calories or fat intake during those meals.
Dinner is usually heavier though. But overall it's a reduced-fat, reduced calorie diet. The reason I use that diet is because of
Alli.

I'm on Alii. Now I stay away from diet pills, but Alii is different. First of all, it's been rated by many media outlets as one of the best diet plans out there because it actually works. Its primary function is preventing the absorption of fats from the human diet, thereby reducing caloric intake. Alli inhibits the enzymes that break down triglycerides in the intestine, so about 25 percent of the fat/triglycerides don't convert into absorbable fatty acids, instead, they are excreted undigested, so you end up taking in less of the bad stuff, thus the weight loss. It contains no stimulants or any extra ingredients besides orlistat, which main purpose is to excrete some of the fat undigested. It's safe, doesn't interact with any psych meds, and effective. Alli only works on enzymes that break down fat, not on other enzymes. So carbohydrates and proteins are not affected. You still absorb those nutrients.

NOW, with all of that going goood, i mess up EVERY SINGLE NIGHT. It's like I excercise eat we;l all day just to munch on stuff from like 11pm-1am. I eat chips, bagels, pop tarts, toaster strudles, sandwhiches, cookies, pudding, yogurt.
I CANNOT STOP the late night cravings, Makes me want to give up on everything, just forget the excercise, forget eating well, im just gonna blow it at night.

What do you think? i mean Im having a lot of trouble with the late night eating. Should i just give it all up, or is it best the way it is? Better to do mostly good than no good at all? I need some motivation or tips. I drink a lot of tea and water at night, but that does nothing, I still eat my a$$ offf.

Once again, I'm a male 5' 9" 174 pounds, trying to be 165-168.

I had a problem too with late night eatings, until I found EXTRA sugarfree gum. The first week I was going through a pack a night. Now I have a couple of pieces and jello or pudding. Try that! 1KitGer

[Cleansing]

I have no idea what my caloric intake is. I read somewhere that you take your desired weight, multiply it by ten, and that should be you calorie intake each day. so I want to be 168, I should be takining 1680 calories a day. For the most part, i take in less than that, until i reach dinner, then it's much heavier. But I noticed that if i go for fast food, any meal on the menu is like mroe than half the calories I need for a day. I really need to stay away from restaurants in general. Even the healthier looking ones are full of high calorie food.

I think what I need to do is give the sugar free jello and water at night another try. and just try to put myself to sleep if i can't stand the cravings. Sugarfree gum sounds good too.

I can add some nuts during the day as a snack.

[ShwiftyFive]

May I suggest that you keep a diary of everything that passes your mouth. seems to me that you are making your body crave nutrients from the amount of exercise you do.
Have you tried grazing through the day? That works well for me. I only want to lose maybe 5-7 pounds and quitting drinking will help keep the extra calories away. Your body has a specific metabolism and just because you are working out tonnes per day does not mean that it is necessarily going to lose weight.
One last thing; I heard that larger meals expand the stomach causing you to feel hungry even a few hours after eating. I would suggest eating a bigger, protein and carb balanced breakfast, smaller lunchtime meal, snack before and after your workouts and a light dinner like soup and/or salad with maybe some protein thrown in.

[Gypsy Feet]

there are tons of great sites that help you calculate your target calories and track your daily intake. I like Calorie Counter Database - Free Online Diet Program. It rates your food choices so you can really see where your going wrong.

[Cleansing]

Cool info. Yeah, I like to starve myself after workout, and i eat a very small breakfast. then have a decent size lunch, usually on the smaller side, plus a larger dinner. Maybe that dinner is what's opening me up to eat so much at night coupled weith the fact that Im not properly refeuling after workouts. I cut my workout to once a day now, and only do it twice if I wake up by 6:30 am or whatever.

Oh yeah, How can i forget to mention this. I take Whey protein, so im sure Im gaining muscle mass. Plus I use that as a subsititue for food. So I work out, use the whey at night, then feel like im fine, til right before i get tire, then I becoming a ravenous beast and raid the kitchen.

[Cleansing]

Just had dinner. two small medium sized hamburgers, and a slice of strawberry shortcake.

I want a nother slice. i just want to eat my @ss off today and sleep, no excercise. i'm in that kind of a mood.

I've think I've become an "emotional eater"

[marty888]

My advice for what its worth, 6 small meals a day, increase your protein intake and decrease your carbs. No carbs after 4pm.
Buy some protein powder (chocolate) with no sugars and when you get those urges at night mix it with water or skim milk.
By eating 6 times a day you are "feeding the machine"and the metabolism is always burning.
Also try and do your cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach, burns more fat, then eat straight after

[Gypsy Feet]

My problem time is when I get off work, so I think will try some of the protein water on the way home and see if it curbs my hunger til dinner.

[1KitGer]

Everyone, please never starve yourself, if your hungry, eat, but something like banana and peanut butter, an apple, or a piece of EXTRA gum. My late night cravings have gone away, (Idont eat after 7Pm), I try to have a pudding (the instant ones that you have to make, NOT the pre-made ones they are higher in calories), or jello. The person above me made a good point eat 6 small meals a day, it cuts down on the starving yourself. I'll give you an example of a typical day for me:

6am- Run to gym (2miles)
at gym for 1 1/2 hours (while I'm at the gym a banana) 107 calories

9am- oatmeal (instant low sugar) 130 calories

12noon- 1/2 Tuna sandwich (tuna in water, egg, and celery, hellmans light mayo)
220 calories
1/2 Apple or Pear 55/43 calories

3pm- 1/2 Peanut Butter Sandwich with whole wheat bread or 195 calories
1/2 Apple with 1 Tablesppon of Peanut Butter 150 calories

6pm- Chicken Brst, Fish, Beef, or Pork w/ green beans, broccolli, or snow peas
(4 oz) 220 110 270 298 60 28 27


7p or 8p I have a jello or 10 calories
pudding 80 calories


I consume about 1100 or 1500 calories a day but I'm also in training for a traithlon. And I want to lose weight. My trainer says:

1. Your target weight is: _____________________
2. Your activity factor is:_____________________

20=very active men
15=moderately active men or very active women
13=Inactive men, moderatelty active women, and people over 55
10=Inactive women, repeat dieters, and seriously overweight people

3.Target weight X activity factor = calories needed each day

Will will also need to exercise more than you are doing now but not extreme and you should see a difference in weight in a month.

Now if I've been good for five days then I will have some whole wheat pasta or whole wheat rice with my meal at night, but not too late. I was 144 pounds 2 months ago and I am 131 pounds. But I am very active female, I run, bike or swin everyday.

So I hope I helped out in any way. Have a great day

1KitGer

[emmanuel2012]

The amount of excercise your doing sounds way beyond a standard male 2000 cal diet
The advice on here is good. Boost to 2500, and perhaps the late night cravings will subside

I would reccomend watching Dr. Ghraham and David Wolfe vids on youtube
In between excercises, or reading from Grahams book 80/10/10 or any david wolfe book.
David wolfe has a company called sunfood nutrition. www.sunfood.com

And, that Alli supplement is probably not a natural method
Of stopping fat absorbtion. Increase fructose during the day,
So 1680 to retain the 168 lbs once you achieve it, is normal,
But if you continue to work out, eat the extra calories you
Are burning. Its that simple. You will not crave the junk
At night.
'Im not hungry until dinner" is no excuse.
Just as a squirrel collects nuts for the winter,
You will have to do some kind of discipline
Of eating small whole foods during the day.

Eat green leafy vegetables, or eat as alkaline
As possible. Do a wheatgrass shot.
The fat cells are encapsulated when stored as
Fat, they are way to acidic to be digested, and
Assimilated into the body. That's why its fat;
Its unassimilated acidic cellular content,
That cannot pass because it fails the pH requirments.
Do some research on alkaline vs acidic food.

Do you know what happens when your body
Runs out of pH balanced food to digest?
It starts to break down and destroy muscle tissue.
And, if in a bad acidic emergency, it will start
To leech your bones for its alkaline calcium.
Keep eating that way, and you get arthritis.
Diabetes, and many other diseases, can all
Be prevented by pH balancing your body better,
Not to mention, you won't get any new fat.

[californiapoppy]

I quit having late night cravings when I quit eating obvious sweets. I believe eating often helps too. I do love to eat and I love to cook, I keep it healthy and low-fat because I really enoy vegetables, but I eat too much and I cook with real stuff, no non fat cream here... I'm by no means thin and will never be, but I do not qualify for obese either. I've learned to finally accept the fact that I'm 15 to 20 pounds more than I wish.

[stone]

I agree with the general consensus here, you are eating too little during the day for the amount of activity you are doing.

Maybe it is putting your body in"starvation mode", where your metabolic rate slows down making it harder to lose weight?

I know what you mean about emotional eating, I do it too.

I am about 60 pounds overweight and was basically stuffing myself with anything, as a first step I am eating smaller portions of slightly healthier food. I don't just eat when I feel like it anymore. Once I am used to this I will step things up.

[Bard]

Well it looks and sounds like you know what you're doing, just need to curb those late night snack attacks. Take care of that and you'll see the results you're working on.

A few suggestions would be around the time or close to your usual snack attack cravings would be to fill up on high fiber foods like broccoli. Chopin them up and putting them into a a salad works pretty good. Also it looks like you're avoiding fat in your diet? Here's a quote I heard once "nuts are good for your nuts" in other words having a healthy amount of of the good fat works well on regulating testosterone levels in your body which in turns help to burn the fat. So don't be afraid to put a little olive oil in your salad or a handful of chooped nuts in there.

And two would be to save one of your trainng sessions for later in the night. A little after dinner or even better before it will help curb your appetite. How many times after traing espcialy after a rather hard one have you've felt like chowing down? If your like me it's probably not often.

And lastly make sure you drink plenty of water. Sometimes thirst comes in the disguise of hunger. And if you're traing twise a day you're probably loosing lots of your bodies fluid so make sure to drink up to a gallon if need be.

Hope that helps!

[evmdimples]

I have to agree with others, sounds like you are starving your body of good nutrients. Maybe too much emphasis on calorie intake vs. nutrition. With too low calories, the body goes into starvation mode and holds on to everything. My experience is that the less calories I eat, I can't lose weight. I have to deliberately bump up my calories to get my metabolism revved up again.

I find if I eat a good breakfast, i.e. good carbs (fruit, skim milk, bowl of oatmeal or whole grain cereal), or a high protein breakfast (eggs, cheese, loaded protein shake) I eat better during the rest of the day. You say you aren't hungry until dinner. If you slowly start switching your eating patterns, i.e. smaller dinners, I guarantee you'll find your morning hunger! Six small meals (3 main meals, 3 healthy snack meals) and making sure I have some protein with each of these meals, helps keep my blood sugar level stable, which helps me stay emotionally balanced, which in turn helps me keep the drinking urge and the eating urge in check.

[californiapoppy]

Ah yes, I eat 4 to 5 times a day, it does keep everything in check !

[freeflyin]

WOW!! alot of energy on this thread

more water

dehydration is hunger feeling

are you peeing clear?