http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/ A forum for those searching for answers, What is Recovery? is an open discussion and support group. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:48:20 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/images/misc/rss.jpg http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/ http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/188124-vicious-cycle.html Sun, 08 Nov 2009 12:07:58 GMT For me, recovery involved realising that I was a,'real alcoholic' not just a heavy drinker or even alcohol dependent but as Dr.Silkworth said in ,'The Doctor's Opinion' in the ,'Big Book' someone who suffered a physical and mental allergy to alcohol that has now been shown to effect a limited number (8%) of the population. In real terms it simply means that my body does not, like a ,'normal social drinker' digest alcohol at the rate of 1oz per hour but instead the acetone in my body reacts at a much slower rate on the carbohydrates from the alcohol I have consumed, thus sending messages to the brain saying,"Give me some more" thus setting off the vicious circle until I pass out, leaving this free to carry on until I wake up, and start all over again. Of course critics will say but what happens if you just stop drinking, well the craving won't start, however a 'real alcohlic' will,'once more want the sense of ease and comfort' brought about by the first drink. The illness is Alcohol-ISMS, no -ISMS, no desire for the,'sense of ease etc.' therefore it is essential that either in very rare cases a ,'spiritual experience' takes place as happened to Bill W. or a spiritual education, as happened to Dr.Bob happens, remembering the latter was a very religious man, big difference between religion and spirituality. All these things are in the opening and first 164 pages of the book,'Alcohics Anonymous' which was written, not just by Bill W. but the first 100 people, check it out, so they can't all be wrong! Of course the science bit, acetone etc., came much later but Dr.Silkworth was on the right track. Everything I've said here can be enlarged on but that is fundementally what Recovery means to me, ACCEPTANCE.:c031: ]]> What is Recovery? 43395 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/188124-vicious-cycle.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/188102-next-aa-what-next-common-method-trying-quit.html Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:47:27 GMT ???? ???? ]]> What is Recovery? Pboy http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/188102-next-aa-what-next-common-method-trying-quit.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/187691-practical-application.html Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:37:29 GMT Hay all, First let me say im very grateful to be sober and clean, 2 years the 4th one day at a time. who would of thought. Im also grateful for sr what a world.. That said Id like to know some of... Hay all, First let me say im very grateful to be sober and clean, 2 years the 4th one day at a time. who would of thought. Im also grateful for sr what a world..
That said Id like to know some of your experience with daily application of the 12 steps. how do you do it on a daily bases. once you have worked them through the first time. For me it seems a daily learning thing. first i always have in mind the first 3, to me it says i cant he can ill let him, then i have some foot work to do, although the first time around certain defects were glaring and let go of and some still remain and with prayer god seems to be helping, this is ongoing. my amends r made as they present themselves, some im making now over time financial ect, others are living amends and others have been direct, always trying not to say sorry just to make myself feel better at another's expense. And of course i have daily prayer although i must say im still working on listening. as i do have more requests..lol but its also better. Now im not sponsoring anyone yet havent had the opportunity, unlike some at meetings i dont recruit, if someone askes for help im there to help, and i have had that opportunity its good to be of service. although there are days when i prefer hiding out i do get over it.So there it is for me and i try to applt all this to work, home, family ect. am i perfect hell no, but i am aware more then before of my life and the oppertuninties both spiritualy and materialy, All this and i have freinds a good job a future, transportation, a new freedom. im happy more then im not, and i nolonger want to die,, althogh im not afraid of it either, god is good,

So heres my question is what ive written considerd daily practical application of the program and if so how do some of you do the same, and what r your results. or am i fooling myself yes i still have some insecurities over my program just wanted a little outside opinions.. oh and yes my sponsor and i do discuss this he says im cool dont worry..

to the newcombers here one day at a time i just dont pick up, i show up, and i fess up, then i give it to my higher power, the rest is all icing on the cake..:ring ]]> What is Recovery? cloud8 http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/187691-practical-application.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/187258-sobriety.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:43:03 GMT Today I celebrate 5 years sober. Today I celebrate 5 years sober. ]]> What is Recovery? schuyler http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/187258-sobriety.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/187257-what-am-i-doing.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 20:39:01 GMT This is the jist of what I was trying to say earlier and lost it. I found this site through my meth use. I was raised around drugs, but never really had interest in doing them. Then at age 38, I... This is the jist of what I was trying to say earlier and lost it.

I found this site through my meth use. I was raised around drugs, but never really had interest in doing them. Then at age 38, I found a way to use meth that stuck. I am 42 years old now, I have not used meth in two years with only one relapse last year that confirmed that I did not have any use for meth. Am I an addict?

I have drank since I was 14 years old. Mostly binged party drank on the weekends. I got my first DUII when I was 27 years old. That really didn't change the way I used alcohol. Three 1/2 years ago, I find the job of my dreams, move out of the house I couldn't afford into a cute 2 bedroom, finances are getting back on track, I am working really hard to finally bring stability into my life and succeeding. Last April, I get my second DUII. Of course the courts view it as a first because of the time difference, but the diversion program has changed, its become stricter. Now I'm paying attention. I can feel myself really listening and understanding that I've already started the sobriety process. I don't binge drink on the weekends, but I do enjoy a glass of wine with dinner here and there, or have a cocktail because one sounds good. Am I an alcoholic?

In the last 12 years I have been in a relationship with a severe addict. He has pretty much burned every bridge I have offered him. I want help understanding what makes this ok for me. I want to bring this up when I'm at the AA meetings or the alcohol classes, but can't bring myself to do it because of the diversion program. I want to complete the program without a hitch and I'm afraid I might say something that won't let that happen.

What kind of recovery am I looking for? ]]> What is Recovery? tinkertrain http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/187257-what-am-i-doing.html http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/187244-ughhh.html Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:28:39 GMT I just wrote and wrote my little heart out. Then somehow it all just disappeared. I just wrote and wrote my little heart out. Then somehow it all just disappeared. ]]> What is Recovery? tinkertrain http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/what-recovery/187244-ughhh.html