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Old 06-01-2008, 08:25 AM   #101 (permalink)
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I'll join the 3 cat group, also!. One of them has adopted the HP computer I use here as it's resting spot while I type. I think some cats sleep 16-18 hours/day...and I am ready to come back as a cat in my afterlife...as long as it's in an indulgent home like this one.

Lot's of Smiling Jack's around, too. A long-gone cartoon strip was called "Smiling Jack"...and I adopted it as my CB nickname when the Citizen Band radio craze hit the US during the last energy crisis in the late 70's. I have a lot of stories with the nickname over the years.

Will power definition I just read: is the control of one's impulses and actions. In my recovery, I find I rely on my willpower most of the time, and when my control of my impulses fades away, I beat myself up. If in my recovery, I turn my recovery over to my HP, and then I "go with the flow" after that.....I just don't know. I don't feel I have done that really when I have worked the steps. I take control back...I guess for better or for worse.

I would like to make that a topic for OS discussion. Who has given their recovery to their HP, and how has it worked?
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:51 AM   #102 (permalink)
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OK - i'll go for that. You see I have a number of higher powers. one is the law of cause and effect....so - there is a connection between my actions and the results. There is also things that happen outside of my control that impact me. So there is free will and destiny i guess. words are hard to find.

My recovery is in the hands of my karma...however, i am a part of that.

thats just what's coming out of my mind right now. My ego won't support my recovery. getting my ego out of the way and allowing something that is not self to express itself is part/all? of what makes recovery possible. for me.


"I" might have a different "opinion" in a minite
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Old 06-01-2008, 01:59 PM   #103 (permalink)
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so good to read through this thread on a lovely Sunday! I was actully really thinking a lot today about the will power thing....I have to say that I do believe that I exercise will power certainly on some level all the time! I mean I was in wal*mart today and that place is a junk fest lol
everywhere I looked there were temptations..I see also that I have been "testing" my will power lately by making "treats" most recently crumb cake for the others in my home...tonight I will bake cookies for the littlest folks that pop in--actually tonight a little 5 year old will help me bake them

So my final thoughts are that I do try to the best of my ability every day to work my program-but I rethought my stance on will power--I actually "do have it" and I am very thankful for it. I also know that the only thing between an OS and me will be my HP if my will power has run dry...very though provoking Dave-thank you so much for helping me to see my bigger picture. I feel good about myself today!
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Old 06-02-2008, 06:54 AM   #105 (permalink)
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Good to read you GG and everyone! No temptations or cravings yesterday. I already exercised...and am now contemplating my work day. It's a short work week as Thursday PM thru Sunday 4PM will take rescue/recovery dive training. So I need to feel good about my work self by staying focussed for the next 4 days on making the phone ring for my clients.

My goal from now through the rest of today is to stay OS and other addictions free. When I need a break from working on my goals, it isn't allowable for me to think about slippery slopes. I will work my program when I am not working my goals. Thanks.
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Old 06-02-2008, 07:21 AM   #106 (permalink)
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Please reboot me.

I am treating myself with some kindness over this. I've had a pretty rough patch and I've taken some concrete steps to make some changes and set and strongly enforce some boundaries. All of which stir up old emotions and hurts and I used old methods to cope. Methods I used when I didn't know any better. I now know better. So I'll stop the old ways in their tracks and refocus on using my new toolset.

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Old 06-02-2008, 09:20 AM   #107 (permalink)
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Well - i've been going through the worst emotional stuff i have gone through since i got sober, and i actually wasn't tempted by OS...in fact i just couldn't eat at all yeasterday.

So still on track. last thing i need right now is a sugar high followed by a sugar low!

Hi Roxie! I'm trying not to slip in to old patterns...for me it's shutting down and ceasing to care an isolating from at least half of the human race....won't say which!
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:41 AM   #108 (permalink)
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The Friday morning meeting that I chair last Friday morning-I chose the topic "boundaries"---or the "redefinition of".......I have some folks in my life that I love dearly but sure are “toxic”…I am getting better and have a program but they don’t …..totally relate! Welcome back!!!
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:19 PM   #109 (permalink)
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Old 06-02-2008, 03:24 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Thanks for all the great views here, always an education.
I was thinking Cali, that sometimes I give thanks for not drinking, eating OS, and for trying to take a step back in situations in which I always used to react. Also I ask that I pick up the right messages and feelings to continue that way. So I guess that even though on the surface we may seem to approach things differently, maybe we are not that far apart.
Ananda I find lately that I am more drawn to some of the things you mention, this recovery business sure makes one think. Also, with your last post I take it you have had enough of all these gossipping women or have I got that one wrong as usual.
Thanks for your posts Jack, you live a good busy life.
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Old 06-02-2008, 04:40 PM   #111 (permalink)
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hi guys just share that i'm still making it....you know i should feel great about it but i'm just too shut down to care.....not true....there is some happiness about it....

You guys are all doing so well! I have felt on the verge of a migrane all day, but that is typical of the state i'm in. Watching you all get on track and focus on recovery is a real boost for me. I can't believe how much you excersise jack...its so inspiring. I mowed the lawn over the weekend and it made me feel really good - just the exercise not really the accomplishment. I need more walks.

I was slightly drawn to the carmels at work today. will go out to eat with my girlfriends tonight (they don't gossip dave...so you'll have to guess again )

trying to learn new behaviors is really hard. when the fear sets in its like i know how to protect myself...but it is not healthy in the long run...i know there is a better way....just need to keep tryig to find it. my higher power is stead fast and i know what the results of the old way will be. but i don't always know the new way that is "my higher powers will?" trying to translate here cause it is spiritual to me.

Well i just wont eat sweets, won't wear black and wont avoid ALL men...just one!

I need to be sure to eat well tonight so the craving doesn't get me later and if I feel like i need something tonight i have the yogart and strawberries in the fridge plus radishes. and there are no sweets in the house that i know of so i should be safe from that. wish it were that easy to be safe from everything else

Onward and upward toward day 5.
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Old 06-02-2008, 05:35 PM   #112 (permalink)
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So I guess that even though on the surface we may seem to approach things differently, maybe we are not that far apart.
you're right-and it's so cool to be able to really look at myself and see that I am not ALL "one way", and I do incorporate a lot of other things besids HP. The whole thing was really empowering to me!!

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I need to be sure to eat well tonight so the craving doesn't get me later and if I feel like i need something tonight
that's usually my problem....but the heat is on---I have 6 weeks to lose 8 pounds..it's a personal thing...I walked today during lunch-that's going to be difficult becasue it's hot out and I get a bit warm so I want a shower after I walk but I can't have it all...

it's my 20th high school reunion in July. I NEVER thought I would go back--I have never been to one...I've come this far without "expecting" any particular weight loss (only hoping for it )
but why not? go for the gold.
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Old 06-03-2008, 04:06 AM   #113 (permalink)
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Just comin here is important ot my recovery. On Tuesdays, I don't normally run...and often I don't get to the gym on Tuesday. But I come here to start my day...get ES&H on recovery. I am grateful for that.

Yesterday, I didn't avoid all the slippery slopes...but I did stay in contact with other folks in recovery...and that kept me bottom-line sober.

I hope to be off even the slippery slopes for the rest of today. Take care.
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just checking in - I am just starting to move and have 5 minites to when i should be out the door....bet i won't make it.

see you all later.
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Good morning all -

Today is going to be great! I began the day with a little solitude and reflection - always a nice way to start the day. I've got a couple of physical activites planned for today, plus just planned for a long mountain hike on vacation next month.
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Old 06-03-2008, 10:52 AM   #117 (permalink)
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Thanks for keeping track of "day counting" Dave!
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WOW another day os free - well not quite...I'm obviously sweet right!
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I'm grateful to have another OS free day...but my addiction is telling me I need to pig out...living life on life's terms is hard work...and I feel I am justified in having a kick to pick me up.

My addiction was telling me yesterday about how good I would feel...and I envied others who can indulge....why not me...

Sinkin' thinkin' will turn me back into a practicing addict/alcoholic. I need to come here and be safe...and tell how I feel...and try to make it through today. Take care all.
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hey guys
its the first time i've dropped in this thread since #5...

to begin with, I need to be removed from the list.
My focus is not on diet or even wellbeing at the moment.
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i don't mean to be a "quiter" but i will opt out of this goal for the time being.
will return when the time is viable. thanks for all the support and advice i've learn along the way. All the best to those with sucesses in this abstainance goal.
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my disease talks to me and says a lot of the same things yours does...
the "Libra" that I am, I am always trying to weigh things out......
I visualize the "scale" (like the Libra scale) and try to weigh out the "good and bad" of eating an OS.......the good feeling I would get from it would be fleeting, but the bad feelings will last a lot longer and do A LOT more damage.....eating "junk" is a luxury I can't afford..please help me to always remember this truth..
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Roxie, that mountain hike sounds good. I have had so many holidays where I lounged around eating and drinking and I have been thinking for a while that I would like to do something like that.
Been on the bike for a while and now getting my daughter from school. She has a couple of birthday parties coming up and wants to be my friend while I am spending money.
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