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Old 04-20-2008, 11:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Lightbulb "I need to know How God Sees me"

I need to know How God Sees me, Dos He Still Loves me, Dos He understands Me, or will he Punish me, when I fail to Pass the tests of Time, will He still Love me, when My Attitude It's crooked, and when I'm feeling moody, and when all my thought are contrary, from what he says in the Good Old book the Bible, to be as one Body, Love your Neighbor, as you Love your Self, and when I fail to meet his standers, will he Still Love me, or will he Reject me, or Punish me, I'm so Confuse, and Afraid, Because the same thing Happens to me when I try to Get Close to God, People Mis judging me, and mis-Interpreting me, just when I think I know, and Feel the Hall full conviction, and I'm walking in his Grace, It's Like a 380 Happening in my Life, and I fail God to Represent the Kingdom business,Today I fail God with My Actions, My Mouth,My emotions, My thinking, and It all Happened in church to Top It of, oh and after been clean from nicotine 3- months clean I smoke today. Me, and My Husband, we are Born again Christians and we Have a year trying to find a good solid bible studied foundation church,we find one this was 3 months ago and the inevitable Happens my Husband Brother decides to enter the Same church with us But I know My Brother In-Law he Is Full of it, Honestly I Can't stand Him, I Hate Him, May God Forgive me, this gos way Back when I was living in my in-Laws House, which at that time I was commonly living together with my Boyfriend, who now is my Husband. His Brother Did everything in his Power to Make our staying there uncomfortable he didn't respect my Privacy, he Hit me when my at that time was my Boyfriend was working, and even when we Move he disrespect it my Son, this is a supposedly grown Man of 23 years old, my Son was at that time 15, and then a month ago he disrespect it me again, man and the list gos on, I try copping with it for My Husband sake, and Because My Brother In-Law is Bipolar, but a Very Smart Bipolar, Hes the type he will skims, and then Attacks in a manner of sweet Angel, today at Service he kept trying to talk wile the service was going on, the Lady Pastor she Don't Play that, She Don't Like nooned talking wile the Service is in session, and wile they are praying for the church members, and my Husband, and I, we were Both in communion with our eyes close, and he just Kept trying to talk to my Husband and ask him all kinds of questions, and my husband, and I, we were trying to follow orders and not Talk, but he ain't Got no type of Discipline, and My Husband is older than Him and he told him with Authority wait until the service it's over, and in front of everybody he just disrespect it my Husband, and I, Man I Want it the earth to Swallow me, then I lost all sense of Christianity in me and got really ghetto,on Him I want it to knock Him out, just Lay it on Him, Man what a embarrassing Moment, I Hate Him, I Can't stand Him, then what Gets me Mad and Frustrated it is that the Pastors Focus more on correcting us we ain't that Spiritual they expect to much from us, and to Him It was Like Nobody Tells Him Nothing, Like I'm tire of Him doing things, and getting away with murder, because either People are scare of him, or Intimidated by Him, or his Stupid sickness come on I'm Bipolar and you Don't see me savaging no ones life the only life I sabotaged was my own when I was drinking, and drugging, I cant take it. the Lady Pastor was Like oh the Devil Mess up your Testimony with this incident it was like she was worry more about what people where going to think than about us, and were is your knowledge, and understanding, we just got here "I'm not Sweet Jesus", I'm bound to Fail God Help Me Understand, Now dos God See me like the people, Pastors, because they are the Angels of the House of God, and God Reveals to them, I m beginning to loose the little bit of Hope, and Faith,&Trust, and Love, I once found in Sweet Jesus, Please somebody Help Me I'm Hurting inside, and confuse, "How Dos God Sees Me" Even when I fail and why is it that in church People expect to much from you and when you fail to meet the deadline they judge you I can't Understand it "God Help me"they suppose to Have Love & understanding.Please some one any one answer this thread it will be much appreciated.
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Old 04-21-2008, 12:10 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Hi BUTTERFLY, I will try to help from what I've learned about how God sees us.

First, he sees us as perfect. The reason for that is because he made us from his image and all that he does is perfect.

2nd, there's a catch here, he gave us Free will. This free will allows us to sin (bad behavior). We all do it. We need to recognize when we do it though(sin), you are doing that. Are you truly sorry for sinning? That's a first step. If you are, all it takes is to ask our Father to forgive us. And we will be forgiven because Jesus sacraficed his life and said on the cross to our Father to forgive us for we don't know what we do. Once you do this, you are forgiven and God sees this. Remember, he is patient, he is merciful, he's rooting for you all because he loves you. You are his child! He wants you to succeed.

So, to answer your question in short. God loves you no matter what you do. Think of him as a loving father who has the most incredable unconditional love you ever will experience.

As far as your BIL. Try to avoid him at any cost is what I would try to do and when you can't, well........The serenity prayer is there.

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You may not know me, but I know everything about you. Psalm 139:1

I know when you sit down and when you rise up. Psalm 139:2

I am familiar with all your ways. Psalm 139:3

Even the very hairs on your head are numbered. Matthew 10:29-31

For you were made in my image. Genesis 1:27

In me you live and move and have your being. Acts 17:28

For you are my offspring. Acts 17:28

I knew you even before you were conceived. Jeremiah 1:4-5

I chose you when I planned creation. Ephesians 1:11-12

You were not a mistake, for all your days are written in my book. Psalm 139:15-16

I determined the exact time of your birth and where you would live. Acts 17:26

You are fearfully and wonderfully made. Psalm 139:14

I knit you together in your mother's womb. Psalm 139:13

And brought you forth on the day you were born. Psalm 71:6

I have been misrepresented by those who don't know me. John 8:41-44

I am not distant and angry, but am the complete expression of love. 1 John 4:16

And it is my desire to lavish my love on you. 1 John 3:1

Simply because you are my child and I am your Father. 1 John 3:1

I offer you more than your earthly father ever could. Matthew 7:11

For I am the perfect father. Matthew 5:48

Every good gift that you receive comes from my hand. James 1:17

For I am your provider and I meet all your needs. Matthew 6:31-33

My plan for your future has always been filled with hope. Jeremiah 29:11

Because I love you with an everlasting love. Jeremiah 31:3

My thoughts toward you are countless as the sand on the seashore. Psalms 139:17-18

And I rejoice over you with singing. Zephaniah 3:17

I will never stop doing good to you. Jeremiah 32:40

For you are my treasured possession. Exodus 19:5

I desire to establish you with all my heart and all my soul. Jeremiah 32:41

And I want to show you great and marvelous things. Jeremiah 33:3

If you seek me with all your heart, you will find me. Deuteronomy 4:29

Delight in me and I will give you the desires of your heart. Psalm 37:4

For it is I who gave you those desires. Philippians 2:13

I am able to do more for you than you could possibly imagine. Ephesians 3:20

For I am your greatest encourager. 2 Thessalonians 2:16-17

I am also the Father who comforts you in all your troubles. 2 Corinthians 1:3-4

When you are brokenhearted, I am close to you. Psalm 34:18

As a shepherd carries a lamb, I have carried you close to my heart. Isaiah 40:11

One day I will wipe away every tear from your eyes. Revelation 21:3-4

And I'll take away all the pain you have suffered on this earth. Revelation 21:3-4

I am your Father, and I love you even as I love my son, Jesus. John 17:23

For in Jesus, my love for you is revealed. John 17:26

He is the exact representation of my being. Hebrews 1:3

He came to demonstrate that I am for you, not against you. Romans 8:31

And to tell you that I am not counting your sins. 2 Corinthians 5:18-19

Jesus died so that you and I could be reconciled. 2 Corinthians 5:18-19

His death was the ultimate expression of my love for you. 1 John 4:10

I gave up everything I loved that I might gain your love. Romans 8:31-32

If you receive the gift of my son Jesus, you receive me. 1 John 2:23

And nothing will ever separate you from my love again. Romans 8:38-39

Come home and I'll throw the biggest party heaven has ever seen. Luke 15:7

I have always been Father, and will always be Father. Ephesians 3:14-15

My question is…Will you be my child? John 1:12-13

I am waiting for you. Luke 15:11-32

Love, Your Dad.
for you. Kathy

oops, I forgot to put up a link for the above. It's called a "Father's Love Letter" found here:
Father's Love Letter (English)

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Old 04-21-2008, 12:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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By the way BUTTERFLY, reading what you had to say and responding to you helped me out today. Strange how that works hey. lol
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Old 04-21-2008, 02:32 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I replied on your other thread and will repeat a part of it here...

Jesus thinks the world of You.

May want to look at day 30 on this thread as well.

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ays-son-2.html (Only Jesus: 40 Days with the SON)

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Old 04-21-2008, 05:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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u guys so very much as I read your post Katecan, the Letter that my Father in Heaven send me through you I 'm crying because its all I been waiting for any one to tell me since I was a child Hearing those words each and one of them It did some kind of type of Healing or remedied I Don't know if I'm saying it right, but I always could tell others about the Love of God to others, and the things he could do, But when It came to me It was Like I couldn't feel the Love of God, or his Forgiveness, at times I will even see him like this Big punishable God, with a lot of Rules and Laws this doesn't mean I'm going to take a License and go sin but at least I have and Idea of How he sees me maybe cause my upbringing was so judgmental and only the good ones where Love in my family & even the church leaders wouldn't have the right Wisdom, or knowledge, or understanding, to how to teach or guide me and every sermon I heard in church was so strict that I thing I unconsciously created a behavior or conscious pattern of Shame and guilt when I how ever felt shore out of the glory of God or felt short. and best u to man for sharing may God Bless all of all and keep giving yowl wisdom and knowledge from above.
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Old 04-21-2008, 05:27 PM   #6 (permalink)
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You're so very welcome Butterfly. I'm happy it was helpful to you. Somebody gave it to me a few years ago and it had the same affect on me as it appears to have had on you. I remember I could hardly read it through my tears. When I saw your post it came to mind right away to post it for you.

What an Awesome Father we have hey? He makes things come together in perfect time.
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This question and answer helped me today to. Thank's
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I have to admit - I had trouble following your first post, but I htink I have the idea.

It seems that you are confusing God with The Church.

It is an easy mistake to make, churches are build to glorify Him. But, it's important to realize that God doesn't actually live in the Church; it's just a building. And the people who gather to worship in that building, they are just people - as imperfect as the rest of us.

In Catholicism we have an important concept called "The Dark Night of the Soul". Many saints, before their spiritual awakening, experienced a period where it seemed that God was not with them. Many people do not make it through this period, but those who do are always rewarded.

Our own Blessed Mother Teresa, who I think anyone would say is beyond a doubt a holy woman, truly touched by God, experienced this Dark Night for over FIFTY years! And yet she never lost faith, kept praying that even though God's voice was silent in her ears, she was doing His Will. Amazing! And she told no one.

Why we are tested this way, I do not know, but I have come to believe it is a vital experience for a mature faith. It also seems that some of us get it worst than others.

It is not my job to know, only to follow.

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Old 04-21-2008, 08:59 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Man guys God Bless each and one of yous I'm crying but not of anger, or sadness, or confusion, or fear, or doubt, but out of Joy, and Love, and strength, and Faith, our Father has send today from Heaven to us, It's like a revelation of dynamite through people, for people, Augustine U so very much for your Reply God knows what we need to hear God is Good, I never seen God work in action, and Fast immediately express Answer, well yes I have but not Like today man, and believe it or not he even use you to tell me about Faith through the story of Mother Teresa, and " The Dark Night of the Soul" ,see in my church is Pentecostal is Good but some leaders forget that we are Souls striving to get to that perfection of working on our character defects, and short comings, and many of them don't have that knowledge, to understand, that the one that trans forms here is the Holy Spirit not Man but if you fail in a certain task of your life or fail to pass that test of what ever it could be your attitude, behavior, is like unconscionably they all ready are sentencing you or forcing you to change and what that creates is a bad Spiritual Birth and I loose all sense of who God is, the Doctrine is some what Hard core not the male Pastor but his Wife she is to controllable, & dominated, too Disciplinary, which I understand where she is coming from I know she loves her sheep's and I know she means well but sometimes when we thing we are doing right is when we are not Helping I know her Job and the Pastor is to lead us to salvation, and truth, & keep us deliver, and guide us, and teach us, but even your Best intentions are not good enough, so my fallowing Question? is what do I do to maintain my Identity with my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and still be my self, and feel conferrable in my own skin, and still keep a healthy relationship with my Pastor with out giving to much of me, cause I learn when you should people your needs or weaknesses or to much vulnerability they take advantage and want to control you, so How do I play it safe.
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U so very much for your reply sometimes I loose sight of how God sees me Its My Pastor wife she is very judgmental with us and disciplinary

but when It comes to her Daughter she covers hers and protects her and still lets her lead the service no matter what

but when it comes to us non blood family is like we have to give fruits of rely repentances and be a true Witness for God and when we fail short It's lie hard core discipline

and what about her daughter man I'm not going to loose my Blessing or salvation for nobody thats why I don't give up and live there was nothing writing about the cowers but of the valiants(courages)
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Butterfly....

I think that you know...deep within youself...by the whispering of the Holy Spirit,

that you are good enough..because you have Jesus.

He is all you need..all you will ever need. Your only authority...He is our High Priest

who sits at the right hand of the Father and intercedes for us..

Hold your head up Butterfly...

Stand strong in the Lord and the power of (His) might...

And do not allow any one human being to bring condemnation upon you!

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I think you need to find a church w/ a Pastor who shows no partiality while not compromising the word of God.

If you have asked Jesus to be the Lord of your life, then you are fully forgiven and washed by his blood. There is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. God sees you perfect as you have been washed clean in JESUS.

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