Prayer for me

[Alive]

This is a prayer for me...

I need to find that peace of mind i never quite got since i was born. There are two people's beautiful future depending on this... I am confident my spirit is stronger than any harsh reality of the past..I am confident in God's speed in changing my negativity into positivity. And i know people come to you for a reason. This reason shall not be overlooked.

I also pray that christians learn to accept all sexualities and choices. That brought me a lot of pain, but i am now in a place of acceptance....And i do believe Jesus will never judge love, no matter how people try to forge beauty into something else.

I know God's manifestation on earth is trough love, and that's what i am doing. Love is love.

Amen.

[best]

Originally Posted by Karim

I also pray that christians learn to accept all sexualities and choices.

That is directly against God's word.

I tolerate and understand choices people make but I will never accept sin as being not a sin... in myself or others.
People will sin...me included. To be accepting of any sin is against God's word.
I will remain understanding of other people at all times. I will treat other people with love and understanding but I will hope to never be found accepting of sin.
If I am accepting of sin in others, I will find myself accepting of sin in myself.
I will treat others with love and understanding and by the Lord's strength ...I hope that I can do the same for myself as well.
When we sin... We are the ones who treat ourself the worst and tend to pull ourselves down. What others think of me is "their" proplem. What God thinks of me is "my" problem and at days end when I do my spiritual and moral inventory of "myself"... that is when I find out if I measure up to God's desires for me.

We are all at different stages of our growth and relationship with the Lord. I will not condemn another for their sin *isn't my job, it is the Holy Spirit's job* but I will always hold boundaries for myself if others are casting their sin against my life.
As I state that I am a Christian... it is the duty of my fellow Christians to hold me accountable and guide me with love to proper ways. For a person who is not a Christian... that is God's job alone to deal with them. Our job in such a case is to tell others about the Love of the Lord.

Go out and tell all nations and people that Jesus has risen and is Lord and God of all.

I am a sinner and because I know what my life was like before finding the Lord... I understand the nature of others and I hope to always be found understanding and sharing with love in my heart as I meet people where they are at. But acceptance of sin in myself or others is not something I wish to be found doing.

[Alive]

Well then all that i am is a sinner and yet i have never harmed anybody with my love. My love has saved me so many times, and love is still love, love will always be the purpose of my life. It has nothing to do with sin. Between a man and a man or a woman and a woman, the driving force is love, not sin, just like between a woman and a man.

It's not about people's options, it's about living according to our own truth and not being hypocritical. I've fell into depression because i wouldn't accept myself. No more. The world can judge me as much as it wants. It doesn't make a difference to me anymore. I don't judge and i expect the same. And i will tell you more: I told God the other day that i can't lie to myself and live a life that's untrue. If i go to some sort of hell because i loved people, then let it be, because i followed the only thing i know for sure, is that God loves me for what i am!

I won't stop loving Jesus because the church might have a certain view of myself. I won't stop being a christian ánd being very liberal. I don't need to be accepted in church, i need to be loved by God. For now the world isn't ready to love me too much because i stand for my own personal choice. And yet i am not promiscuous, i am not disrespectful... Humanity has changed but the foundations are the same. I am used to have everybody turn their backs on me. Jesus won't. So I am free...

I need salvation for my depression, not for loving a man.


p.s..Best i can understand why you think like that. Unfortunately the society isn't ready to accept people as they are in all levels. I hope one day people stop and let themselves be free. God gave me a mind to think. It took much time for me to get to this place of acceptance. I keep love as my focus.

[best]

Originally Posted by best

What others think of me is "their" proplem. What God thinks of me is "my" problem and at days end when I do my spiritual and moral inventory of "myself"... that is when I find out if I measure up to God's desires for me.

Yes Jesus loves you and yes Jesus loves me and for each person that makes a choice of heaven or hell... Jesus will have tears of sadness or joy depending upon our choices. If my choice is to follow my own path.. I will gather the consequences of my choices. If I make my choices so that I follow God's ways...I will gather the blessings from God. The choice is mine... do as I please or do as God pleases and yes...Jesus will still love me and have tears in His eyes if my choice is to do as I please and accept the possibility of hell for following my own path vs following God's ways.
John 14:15"If you love me, you will obey what I command. 16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever— 17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you. 19 Before long, the world will not see me anymore, but you will see me. Because I live, you also will live. 20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you. 21 Whoever has my commands and obeys them, he is the one who loves me. He who loves me will be loved by my Father, and I too will love him and show myself to him."

[Lily]

Karim,

It isn't nor should it ever be about other peoples opinions nor is it about being accepted by the church, but in light of scripture, it is about not only being a hearer of the word but a doer also.

Please read Romans 1:26 and 27. Just see what God says, not man, not your church and not even what you yourself is saying to you..... remember we cannot trust our own feelings....they even lie to us, all we can really trust is Gods word that is always truth, and always right, and never changing. It really is His love letter to us. It rightly divides truth and error.

blessings in Christ, Sheila <><

[Jomey]

Karim, I don't feel qualified to weigh in on the debate of sin and sexuality...but just wanted to say I love you, my brother and you are in my prayers. Jomey

[augustine]

I am sorry you are having difficulties Karim. I do not know if you are a Catholic or not, but there are a lot of incorrect conclusions about the Catholic Church's acceptance of Homosexuality.

You are right, God IS Love and he loves all of us equally. More over, he calls those of faith to love others, particularly those in times in difficulty and hardship for they are the ones who need our love most. Jesus didn't sit around with Rabbi's and Saints, He spent time with the poor, the lost, the sinners. He knew exactly where He needed to be.

Here is a passage from the Catechism of the Catholic Church:
"2358
The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition."

So never fear, you are loved; perhaps above those who do not share your sexual orientation.

Pax Christi,
Dietrich

[shockozulu]

Augustine beat me to it know you are in my prayers.

[Alive]

Thank you, it really means a great deal....

[gypsytears]

Prayers for you Karim .

[RK2007]

Karim.

Follow what your heart tells you - I don't understand the stigma you speak about as I myself am not gay, although I do know prejudice goes on in society - particularly in certain groups etc. Also, I'm not a religious man, so I don't really know much about that either - but your posts in this thread are of positive human feelings and love, and in my experience love has never been a bad thing between two people!!!

In many respects you are very lucky - I hope your happiness lasts and you have the strength to persevere. You are open and honest and caring and if that ain't enough for God, well I don't know what will be.

All the best for the future.

[best]

Originally Posted by RK2007

You are open and honest and caring and if that ain't enough for God, well I don't know what will be.

Read the bible and talk with the Lord and you can find out what is enough.
If our good deeds could get us into heaven, we would still fall short. There has been only one who was found to be without sin and that was Jesus.
Good deeds don't get us in, A lack of good deeds won't necessarily keep us out either.
Our very best efforts still fall short of what is needed to be accepted into heaven.
There is only one way to heaven that mankind is capable of...

Acceptance of Jesus as the Lord of your life.

[RK2007]

Originally Posted by best

Read the bible and talk with the Lord and you can find out what is enough.
If our good deeds could get us into heaven, we would still fall short. There has been only one who was found to be without sin and that was Jesus.
Good deeds don't get us in, A lack of good deeds won't necessarily keep us out either.
Our very best efforts still fall short of what is needed to be accepted into heaven.
There is only one way to heaven that mankind is capable of...

Acceptance of Jesus as the Lord of your life.

Sorry Best, I wasn't meaning to pretend to know about faith or anything - just wanted to offer Karim my opinion and a bit of support - dunno if it's right or wrong in other people eyes but just wanted to say my piece.

All the best.

[toad]

I love you Karim, and there is not a damn thing you can do about it.

Keep coming back...........toad