Rush Limbaugh is a JUNKIE

[cece1960]

I'm saying I was shocked to see how outwardly hypocritical the guy (and many others who speak out) really is...your point was made in this case.
I may have stumbled across those statements years ago and it would've have fazed me (my bad)
But where I am today I have trouble with anyone who paints the entire world, their world as they see it, with the same brush.

[Blake]

The vice president shot a man in the face after drinking and he didn't even get a fine. It's not police bias towards right or left, it's police bias towards power. ANd like teach said, yes they all got off with no real punishment, but the actions of the individuals speak volumes to thier character and Rush is a morally reprehinsible person that can't take responsibility for anything he does and can't ever admit he was wrong.

[Jwife22]

Okay I just lost a whole entire huge post and I am not retyping it again.

I will just agree to disagree with you on this point. I have my beliefs and you have yours and thats fine.

There are a whole lot of lying hypocritical junkies out there, believe me, he's not the only one and they are in both parties.

I am not arguing the point that all punishment should be equal because it should. I am arguing the point that NO MATTER WHERE YOU LOOK, there are double standards. Rush should have gotten into trouble, he got basically what you'd get if it were your first charge, probation. As for the Viagra...it was his prescription. It isn't illegal, APPARENTLY, to not have your name on the prescription or to not have the prescription in your name


Its all about the power and how well known you are that keeps you out of trouble. There will always be a double standard and Rush Limbaugh is not the only one getting it.

As for the medical care, yes insurance sucks, but that is through no fault of Rush Limbaugh, Patrick Kennedy or whoever else is out there. THat is just life. It sucks not having insurance believe me, we know. My Husband had an appendectomy with no insurance and $60,000 dollars and a bankruptcy later, his credit is ruined.

I am not saying that he's responsible for what the police do. He's not taking responsibility though. He's just looking for a way out of trouble., IMO

Instead of stepping up and saying yes, I mixed alcohol with pills and I shouldn't have, he's denying altogether that he even drank although the officers at the scene say it was obvious to them that he was intoxicated.

They are both addicts, plain and simple, and I am not denying that. Oh yeah, Rush Limbaugh checked himself into treatment twice before and couldn't kick the habit of pain pills. He didn't wait till he got caught.

I am going to put this quote in from Rush Limbaugh. He isn't denying his problem.

"I am not making any excuses. You know, over the years, athletes and celebrities have emerged from treatment centers to great fanfare and praise for conquering great demons. They are said to be great role models and examples for others. Well, I am no role model. I refuse to let anyone think I am doing something great here, when there are people you never hear about, who face long odds and never resort to such escapes."
"They are the role models. I am no victim and do not portray myself as such. I take full responsibility for my problem." Rush Limbaugh

You just seem like you are bound and determined and out to get Rush Limbaugh because you don't like him. It has everything to do with the Kennedys and all of the other lying, hypocritical people out there, he's not the only one getting preferential treatment. THEY ALL Do.

[Blake]

Patrick Kennedy openly admitted he was intoxicated and pleaded guilty to the charge of DUI. Here is the news story... http://www.latimes.com/news/nationwo...a-story-footer

[Jwife22]

At the end of it all. Just like Rush Limbaugh did, openly admitted his problems with drugs.

It the beginning he denied any charge of being intoxicated behind the wheel.
From CNN.com article


The police incident report includes an observation that Kennedy appeared to have been drinking and his ability was impaired.

"At no time before the incident did I consume any alcohol," Kennedy said in a statement Thursday."

[historyteach]

Well, for someone who "agreed to disagree" there's sure a lot of arguement there. Cuz I'm not sure what you're agreeing to disagree with.

However, none of what you said negates my point. Limbaugh is a lying hypocritical junkie.

Whether I like him or not.

It has NOTHING to do with political parties. It's got EVERYTHING to do with the double standard HE promotes in his position of influence.
And I am glad to see his statement of responsibility. Doesn't really mean to much if he's still promoting a double standard for himself and others he considers "less than." If he says they should go to jail for life; he should be willing to do the same. In short, he should put his money where his mouth is.

I have not heard him reject his former statements about addicts one bit. That's responsibility. That's ownership. That's an amends that would be meaningful.

And I do agree to disagree with you on my only point.
But, you *seem* to agree that he is that lying hypocritical junkie. You just want to point to others who are also. And again, that's NOT my point at all. It's totally irrelevant.

The only issue I see with that fact, (that others are lying hypocritacal junkies too), is that Rush PROMOTES a double standard; Kennedy, (whom you brought up), educates people about the disease of addiction.
Big difference in my book!

(((cece)))
(((Blake)))

Shalom!

[historyteach]

*sigh*
Again, Kennedy isn't the issue. What's the point? That others are? Already addressed above. We seem to have posted together, so this comes after. Sorry.

And that's all folks!

Shalom!

[Jwife22]

I do agree to disagree....that's all I'm saying on the subject. I know what I believe and feel is right and you have what you believe and feel is right and that's what makes the world go round.

You seem awfully defensive and angry with me teach.....just because I have my beliefs.

[Blake]

I think this whole argument comes down to one statement....

I'm right, your wrong......touch blue make it true.....tripple stamp it....

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHH YEAH...I win!!!!!!!!!!!!

[historyteach]

I'm not in the least bit angry, jwife.
Nor am I defensive, lol!
I simply stated that you *seem* to agree with me. And you do.
You just want to bash Kennedy, who has NOTHING to do with the topic at hand - Limbaugh being a junkie.
Bashing Kennedy in a thread about Limbaugh is illogical. I'm just pointing it out. There's nothing personal there at all.

Wishing you well...whatever your beliefs are.

Shalom!

[janeeyre]

Limbaugh and Kennedy aside...I agree, Historyteach--it just is not right that people with "connections" and loads of money get preferential treatment. I don't care what their political beliefs are--if they break the law, they should be held accountable the same as the rest of us.

My brother has struggled for years with the consequences of his addict-actions long ago. He is FAR from rich--lives in a trailer park in a rough part of the city, works in a dead-end job, but keeps on keeping on, doing his darnedest to make a decent life for his daughter and himself. Though he is now a sober, responsible person, he has not been able to dig his way very far out of the hole those addict-actions put him into. He takes responsibility for it, but it frustrates me that he does not get the break that others with more money/influence get. The "connected" people are basically lifted right out of their "situations" and don't have to deal with, say, getting to a job without having a drivers' license. (Their personal driver can get them to the office in a limo...., or in the case of some, they're not even given a sobriety test to begin with because of who they are. So much for legal consequences...)

Part of me wishes my brother could get just a fraction of the break those people get--but that still wouldn't be right. ("two wrongs don't make a right") There've also been times my brother has railed against Limbaugh, Kennedy, and other famous people who've gotten the kid-glove treatment by the police or legal system. But when he calms down he realizes that what happens with them is not "his deal"--my brother accepts that HIS actions put him where he is now, and he is a better person for working through it. Unfortunately, he had to go through homelessness, prison time, loss of employment, etc. But that's HIS to deal with, and he accepts it. I am proud of my brother for fighting and beating his demons. He is my hero, and an inspiration to me in my sobriety.

The world is not fair.

We just do what we can to make it a better place, make ourselves better people, lend a hand where we can, and hope for the best.

Sorry to ramble so...I guess I'm not sure what my point is, exactly.

Jwife, I really appreciate this quote you posted:

"I am not making any excuses. You know, over the years, athletes and celebrities have emerged from treatment centers to great fanfare and praise for conquering great demons. They are said to be great role models and examples for others. Well, I am no role model. I refuse to let anyone think I am doing something great here, when there are people you never hear about, who face long odds and never resort to such escapes."
"They are the role models. I am no victim and do not portray myself as such. I take full responsibility for my problem." Rush Limbaugh

Heck, I don't know whether Limbaugh is sincere in this--who am I to guess? I do like what he said, though, about "the people you never hear about..."

Be well, everyone --
Jane

[Jwife22]

Originally Posted by janeeyre

Limbaugh and Kennedy aside...I agree, Historyteach--it just is not right that people with "connections" and loads of money get preferential treatment. I don't care what their political beliefs are--if they break the law, they should be held accountable the same as the rest of us.

I am in 100% agreement with this statement. I don't believe that anyone should get preferential treatment because of their status in the celebrity world, the money their mommy & daddy have, or any other reason.

It happens, there is a double standard, lifes not fair, you are right.

[Just Randy]

Originally Posted by historyteach

Plain and simple. He's no different than my own beloved son. But, he's not going to jail, despite breaking the laws, AGAIN!

Caught again with prescription drugs not in his name, he is once more under investigation, "to determine if any laws were broken."

Well, of COURSE they were! It is illegal to have drugs belonging to another. In Warren, where I lived for 20 years, they closed down a club because of that very reason. A patron took someone else's medication. Mind you, he had the EXACT same prescription at home, but, didn't have it with him when he needed to take it.

The police raided the place; the court closed it. Yes, there had been probelms with drugs in the establishment before.

But, there's been problems with Rush and illegal drugs before too. Come to think of it, there's been problems with him using other people to GET his drugs for him before. Remember his maid, he sent out in the middle of the night to get his stash? (Wasn't she an illegal immigrant too? I think so. So, she had no recourse to what he asked, if I recall correctly.) This time, he used his "doctor's" name on the phony prescription. The "doctor" should loose his liscense if that's true! How long before the ghost of Elvis visits ole Rush if this continues?

Sorry, but, I'm angry about the double standard. This millionairre bigot who spouts off that drug abuser should have life imprisionment gets off scott free while flagrently violating the laws on drug abuse. He's hurting himself and his family; he's hurting millions of others with his vitrolic disinformation he spouts on the airwaves. And this junkie remains free to continue doing just that.

Put the jackass in jail where he belongs.
Afterall, that's where he says MY son belongs. And my son has no access to the medical care to overcome this scurge that Rush does! Trevor doesn't make millions using and destroying the lives of others.

Thanks for listening. I'm really PO'd about this creep!

Shalom!

I think your rehtoric has more to do with leftist politics than recovery. I don't care what political stripe, an addict needs compassion, undertanding and healing. I deserve to have gone to jail dozens of times, as have many of us. So please spare us the partisan grandstanding and focus on what we are here for, supporting one another in our quest to overcome addictions. "Ever placing principals before personalities."

[historyteach]

You opinion is accepted as just that, Randy. Your opinion.

And it's interesting as Rush's rhetoric is being defended....for the very right wing grandstanding that it is....
As long as HE doesn't have to face the consequences that he will put upon others....

Wonder if you would say what you do if it was YOUR only child getting the short end of the stick.... and a gentle reminder, you know nothing of his story or mine....
Like how the judge took him OUT of a rehab, and he's now in jail as a result of that action?

Shalom!

[janeeyre]

(((Historyteach)))

I'm really sorry about your son--just wanted you to know that. It sucks that he was pulled from a rehab to be plopped into jail. I just don't get how things work sometimes.

Take care,
Jane

[angelgirl]

Hi,

Well, I normally stay out of this room all together, for fear of any hard feelings that may come out of it.. I just don't do well with any type of
conflict, or whatever we might want to call it.

But I am going to say my feelings on this.. Here they are..

I have a strong feeling that if Rush L could take back everything he said about addicts, he would. I have a feeling that I have said things in my life, that were truly unkind things, things that I really regret, and although I have had to make apologise for things that I have said and done in my life, I am really happy that I did not say them publicly, for all of America to hear.

We all make terrible mistakes with our actions, and with our words. We have all hurt other people with the things we have said. He is no different. We are just not public people.

We addicts are very, very sick people when we are using. We will hid, lie, and steal and cheat. Everyone knows that. He probably said some of those things WHILE he was using, because that would be something an addict would do, we are not thinking when we use. Can you imagine,, we think when we are a regular addict that we will never get caught, let alone when we have as much power as a limbaugh, or a Kennedy. They must really feel when they are using that they are invisible. Well, they find out otherwise, when the drug catches up with them, or the police catch up to them, just like we do.

I feel sorry for people that are in the media when they are struggling with an addiction. It is SO public. Addiction is a terrible disease, I can't imagine having my drug use, and addiction, and LIES, splashed across the pages of every newspaper, and every new channel known.. I can't imagine hurting the people I love anymore than they are already hurt by our addictions, when this would happen in the papers, having the addictions and everything we said, and did public.. can you??

Ya know, it's addiction, a terrible nasty disease. I wish Rush would come to SR, and get some support, and be a normal person. They may have more privileges than we do, but do they really?? They can't be like us and get he same support we get.. It's got to be tough. I wouldn't trade places with any of them, not for all their $$, and not for any reason. I am happy just being me. Addiction causes people to do a lot of terrible things. I bet he regrets everything he said..

I am for every addict getting help. I think everyone deserves a chance at help. I pray Rush gets help, and the Kennedy's too,. They are no different than me when it comes to addiction, same horrid disease. Same slimy lies, same slimy life when we use. But there is hope and thank God that there is forgiveness..

I am sorry about Trevor Teach... He is in my prayers,,
Prayers to all,
Becky

[cmc]

Life is not fair, nor easy- for anyone. I always liked the old Native American saying about not judging others unless you have walked in their shoes.
Although most of here at sr come for some reason related to recovery- no body knows exactly how anyone else actually feels- we are all just trying to do the best we can to share and to give some hope and (limited) understanding to each other.
Events in politics and the media tend to inflame alot of emotions in all of us- I can get all stirred up quite easily when I hear of something happening that is just a little too close to 'home' if you know my drift.
For me, one thing I will share is how-all the drs who failed and/refused to help my and my hubby as we were watching him lose the ability to walk, see-etc etc- it was so unfair, wrong and unbearable to go through.
Just this past mention of it starts my old anger and resentments up again.
What I try to do is to let go of it and look at why am I really upset? All that emotion did nothing to help me deal with my husbands illness and the terror of not knowing if he would be even alive much longer- the anger just made it so much worse for me. I sure do understand how unfair life can be- actually I don't understand it all.... that's why it is so hard.
I love that movie "Big Fish" where the main character says "you don't talk about religion or politics...cause you never know who you're gonna offend."
Let's get back to helping each other and live in peace.
Teach- I do not have words that could even come close to expressing my compassion for how you feel- to have to stand by and watch all that has happened to Trevor. I may have a few gaps with his story,but have read most of your threads, and posts since I came here last Dec. You and Trevor will be in my thoughts and prayers.....

[PlanoTexican]

Originally Posted by cmc

I love that movie "Big Fish" where the main character says "you don't talk about religion or politics...cause you never know who you're gonna offend."
Let's get back to helping each other and live in peace.

Bingo!

[nevergivingup]

Honestly, I feel sorry for all of them. They're addicts, they have a problem, and now they are publicly being ridiculed. Instead of getting the help they need, they are being tossed aside by the sources that are set up to help addicts with a problem. Yes, they have medical insurance, and yes, if they really wanted it, they could seek out that help on their own. However, it seems to me, that they're money and they're power seem to be standing the way of their ever present possibilities of truly hitting their bottom. Which, seems to be why so many celebrities with addiction problems seem to never actually recover and so many seem to just OD. He is an addict. He has said things in the past that perhaps people do not agree with. But, I believe in a higher power that tells me not to judge others. What the media tells us is usually only a small percentage of what has actually happened. And, we all know that to every story there are many sides.

More important then all of that, I also believe in a higher power who teaches me about forgiveness. Instead of bashing the man, I am choosing to pray for him!

Much love and hugs!

BTW, I agree with CMC! Let's get back to helping ourselves with our addictions!

[GoldenGutters]

Wow, I'm suprised the mods haven't yanked this political hot potato yet. History, the stuff your son is going through is deplorable. The stuff with Rush though is just the same ol' s#!t that has always happened, especially when you consider that he's a wealthy celebrity....he's practically untouchable. They need to catch him with a transexual hooker...that might knock him off his high tower! Then again, do you really think there isn't another egotistical windbag waiting to take his place? Our country is full of them...and lets face it they make lots of money for lots of people. The louder and the more controversial the better. It'd take an all out revolution to change all this BS...but that'll never happen. And what would change if we did, I mean come on, lets look at history...how many revolutions in the world, and whats changed.......long term I mean??? Nada. I'm personally not going to become bitter or drink over it though...whats the point? I turned it over to my higher power that I choose to call God (cuz it's only one syllable, and I'm lazy!) just for today! I'll step down off my soapbox now...thanks!