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Sober_John · 06-19-2006, 02:49 PM

I have been working though a temp to hire place. The company I have been working for likes my work so they were going to hire me. So they took all my info and now I don't have a job again. I went to every temp place in the book only one put me to work. All I want to do is get on with my life. Does anyone know a prayer?

Lollipop · 06-19-2006, 06:12 PM

Im with Karma, I dont get it, Im so sorry you didnt get the position but......why didnt they hire you?

Sober_John · 06-19-2006, 07:00 PM

More than ten years ago I had to many drinks and made the mistake of getting behind the wheel. There was no crash there was a few words said back and forth to the officer so it blew way out context. I went to court even though I have no other crimes the officer and "MADD" where there well with all that was against me I lost the case big time. As you know DMV also had to give me a suspended license but it shows four offences, unless you are a lawyer or DMV to deciefer it looks like multible DUI and drugs when in fact I have one and only one DUI. I never denied the fact I had to many drinks then and other times before. As I stated before it is on my credit history yes they can do that it says mutible alcohol and drugs it states big letters red ink SERIOUS OFFENDER. CT. DMV is Req. to maintian for ten years.

In my 10yrs clean I have taken hundreds of preemployment drug test passed everone

. But the fact is Company's don't like "serious offenders" they put it on alot of aplication don't applie if you got a DUI. Some don't and when they see that I put it down they say sorry your to much of a risk or if they do hire me and thier INS. CO. see my DUI they say well your a drug addict and to stay employed you need treament. I am trying to make a honest liveing. But my DUI is on Credit report, driving history and rap sheet as "serious offender" for life becuase of CT. laws and no I can't move to another state every state has DUI agreement.

2dayzmuse · 06-19-2006, 07:07 PM

In the last 10 years, no one is willing to hire you on as a permanent employee? Your job must require a valid driver's license?

**Done-With-It** · 06-19-2006, 07:28 PM

Try craigslist. You can always find tons of jobs there.

That's all I can think of? or hotjobs.com

Good luck

Sober_John · 06-19-2006, 07:31 PM

My driver's license is valid but It list four offense which is not true. I have "one" DUI. I have talk to CT. DMV and all I get is this is how we do it.

**51anna** · 06-19-2006, 07:36 PM

I think you need a lawyer for yourself to do two things:

1) to get the Serious Offender taken off your Credit History (though I don't know that employers check your credit history before hiring your).

2) to get the 4 charges written as one charge.

I have a question though. If someone was looking at your 'information' and saw 4 charges, wouldn't there also be dates with the charges? And, wouldn't all the charges be on the same date?

I wish you well.

2dayzmuse · 06-19-2006, 07:44 PM

If that is how it is done, you would think that one employer would understand that it happened 10 years ago. That really is a bummer. Something isn't right there.

When they ran a background check where I work, they got seven pages worth of results back. Not a good thing. I have one mar on my record, but the computer was pulling results from different women with the same name as myself. The LT. asked my boss if she was sure that she wanted to hire me. She was willing to give me a chance. Come to find out that the woman had the same name, but different SS#'s of course.

You'd think there would be some way to clear this up. I also will mention that I was denied a different government job because of something that happened over 10 years ago. I only have one flaw on my record. I was told the job was a sure thing then was later told via answering machine that they couldn't hire me because of the incident that happened 10 years ago. I was open and upfront about it and was told it wouldn't be a problem. Looking back at it now, it was for the better. I have a better job now that I love. Chin up and try not to be to discouraged. Have faith, something will come up. I know you feel defeated. Keep trying, your opportunity may be just around the corner.

I agree with Anna. There must be a way to clean your history up. Something just isn't right there.

Chance · 06-19-2006, 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unemployable?

Does anyone know a prayer?

Yep I do know a prayer, well a few but this one is daily

God

I am not the person I want to be

I am not the person I am going to be

I am not the person that I should be

But thank YOU God that I am better than I was.

Love Vic

Sober_John · 06-19-2006, 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 51anna

I think you need a lawyer for yourself to do two things:

1) to get the Serious Offender taken off your Credit History (though I don't know that employers check your credit history before hiring your).

2) to get the 4 charges written as one charge.

I have a question though. If someone was looking at your 'information' and saw 4 charges, wouldn't there also be dates with the charges? And, wouldn't all the charges be on the same date?

I wish you well.

I have talk to a few lawyers and they all say the same thing you can't fight with out a boat load of money.

SunGrace · 06-19-2006, 09:15 PM

Quote:

God

I am not the person I want to be

I am not the person I am going to be

I am not the person that I should be

But thank YOU God that I am better than I was.

Thank you, great prayer.

**Done-With-It** · 06-19-2006, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unemployable?

I have talk to a few lawyers and they all say the same thing you can't fight with out a boat load of money.

Have you tried a public defender?

Sober_John · 06-20-2006, 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Done-With-It

Have you tried a public defender?

Yes

Chance · 06-20-2006, 06:46 AM

Personally knowing that working this program and turning things over to a Power Greater than me, things just seem to work out. I also have felony convictions. I am working, regardless of my past. We have to focus on a solution here, which many people here are doing. One thing there are always yards to be mowed, I for one go around door to door and get work. It helps and it is better than nothing. Putting up flyer's in laundry mats, grocery stores, malls, etc. Painting, putting one foot in front of the other and leaving the results to something more higher than I. It works it really does.

Love Vic

Lollipop · 06-20-2006, 07:05 AM

Good Morning!

Question.......Do You have copies of the police reports? As well as the charges? What about a public transcript of the court hearing? And the DMV records? Copies of previous drug test results? If not, you really need to, these are public record, they cant deny you them.

The reason I am asking is that it has been bugging me since yesterday and I been thinking....(ruh roh.......LOL) Seriously, Im thinking, Ok if the regular submit an application, send us your resume` thing isnt working, how bout this........

Next interview, when it comes down to the stage of background check etc. change your approach, have all your paperwork with you and ready, go ahead and be honest and upfront about whats in the paperwork.....and SHOW the employer the facts, dates etc. explain up front that before he/she runs a check, this is what will be found and why, explain the mistake on the charges and why it shows 4 instead of 1 and the fact that it was 10 years ago!!!!
No need to tell them you are a recovering/recovered addict etc, just the plain facts....this is what happened, it was 10 years ago, it was a mistake but it was only one and I havent had any type of situation like it since!!!!

If they are really interested in you, they will respect your honesty and take it into consideration, If they are THAT picky, they can check your story as to HOW the 1 offense is listed as 4 causing you to be a "Serious offender" for themselves and find that what you revealed really DOES check out!!!!

Just an idea, best of luck, keep us posted!!!

Liss

Sober_John · 06-20-2006, 09:32 AM

Unfortunately I don't have the original arrest report. I did get the Court record with thier discloser notice. The info contain here is for this Court only. That little statment is misleading. I would go to every court but thier is atleast 18 courts and they all charge fees. I know because I was convicted in GA18.

Lollipop · 06-20-2006, 10:39 AM

You have the right to a copy of the report. Call the clerk of courts and the police department, tell them where and when you were arrested, even if it is on microfish, they have to have it somewhere. Hound them until you get answers!!!! Dont give up, they have to be able to find it regardless of which court as long as you know the county or jurisdiction. Then they will direct you as to which place you need to pay. Good Luck to you, your in my thoughts!

Liss

Sober_John · 06-22-2006, 03:33 AM

I did get the Court record with thier discloser notice. The info contain here is for this Court only. That little statment is misleading. I would go to every court but thier is atleast 18 courts and they all charge fees.

equus · 06-22-2006, 04:09 AM

Whenever I've hit a job issue where I'm blocked from going in the direction I really want to go - I've studied. I left school with hardly any qualifications, while I was a groom I took GCSE's (16yr old's exams!!). Later while there was no real direction I took an access course which meant I could enter Uni. I was still blocked from where I wanted to be so I went to uni!

Now I'm a good earner but again blocked in my current post so I'll do an MA.

I know education can be expensive but there's usually some assistance or way if you're unemployed, if not learning a new skill or trade doesn't have to be formal - there's volunteer work that often comes with training. I know you need a wage but if you have no job then the only upside is the time that gives you and spending that time learning will help.

If you're told you are not worth the risk then there are TWO things you can do - one to reduce the percieved risk but as you discussed above you can't find a way - the OTHER is to become worth more until you are worth the risk.

What about being self employed? That's another potential option.

GeorgiaPeach · 06-22-2006, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unemployable?

I did get the Court record with thier discloser notice. The info contain here is for this Court only. That little statment is misleading. I would go to every court but thier is atleast 18 courts and they all charge fees.

Have you tried Legal Aid? Do you have the final disposition of your case? Were you on probation? When it states this court only, which court does it refer to? I worked for an attorney for 3 years and at the district Attorney's office for 1 year so I may be able to help but I only know GA law. The only thing they should be able to charge you is a copying fee of about 10 to 25 cents per page or a little more for a certified copy which might be the best way to go. Is there not a job that you can apply for that they do not do a criminal background check or credit check? What line of work are you in anyway.

Sober_John · 06-26-2006, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

Have you tried Legal Aid?

YES and denied.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

Do you have the final disposition of your case?

All I have is court record it shows one DUI

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

Were you on probation?

YES

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

When it states this court only, which court does it refer to?

CT. GA18 "Geographical Area 18"

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

The only thing they should be able to charge you is a copying fee of about 10 to 25 cents per page or a little more for a certified copy which might be the best way to go.

What is the forty dollar research fee? I know about the per page.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

What line of work are you in anyway.

I'll do anything for work sweep floors, warehouse, I have in the past work in a recycle garbage place.
It is not the CT. GA18 that is showing inacurate info it is the CT. DMV. Online searches or others that gather info only report the info found, weather or not it is correct. I was told you can't sue the DMV. Even though they are breaking CT. GEN. STATS and the Code of Federal Regulations (CFR):

GeorgiaPeach · 06-27-2006, 11:27 AM

Did you get along well with your probation officer? Sometimes they will help you get things fixed if they can or direct you in the right place. You can also get a copy of the final from your probation officer if they will give you one. I have NEVER in my life heard of a $40.00 record search fee. Those things are a matter of public record. If you have the case number it should be no problem for them to find it even with just your name they can find it. That is CRAZY. Can you call your local legislator? Maybe he/she could help? I will have to look up some of the CT laws and see what I can come up with.

GP

GeorgiaPeach · 06-27-2006, 11:32 AM

Are you anywhere close to North Dighton, MA? There is an Auto Auction there called American Auto Auction and it is owned by Manheim and they hire anybody and everybody from what I know. Check it out if you are anywhere close.

Sober_John · 07-13-2006, 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeach

I will have to look up some of the CT laws and see what I can come up with.

GP

U.S. Code

TITLE 5 > PART I > CHAPTER 5 > SUBCHAPTER II > § 552a
§ 552a. Records maintained on individuals

(g)
(1) Civil Remedies.— Whenever any agency

(C) fails to maintain any record concerning any individual with such accuracy, relevance, timeliness, and completeness as is necessary to assure fairness in any determination relating to the qualifications, character, rights, or opportunities of, or benefits to the individual that may be ma

06-19-2006, 02:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
Sober_John Employment Exertion Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: WV USA Posts: 751	I lost another job. I have been working though a temp to hire place. The company I have been working for likes my work so they were going to hire me. So they took all my info and now I don't have a job again. I went to every temp place in the book only one put me to work. All I want to do is get on with my life. Does anyone know a prayer?

06-19-2006, 07:28 PM	#5 (permalink)
Done-With-It InAButtonKindOfWay. Seriously? Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Hollywood Posts: 8,250 Blog Entries: 15	Try craigslist. You can always find tons of jobs there. That's all I can think of? or hotjobs.com Good luck __________________ Living in fast forward Hollywood RockStar outta control Need to rewind real slow Alwys Runin Time to take control Oh yeah ...

06-19-2006, 07:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
51anna Forum Leader Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Dancing in the Light Posts: 11,023	I think you need a lawyer for yourself to do two things: 1) to get the Serious Offender taken off your Credit History (though I don't know that employers check your credit history before hiring your). 2) to get the 4 charges written as one charge. I have a question though. If someone was looking at your 'information' and saw 4 charges, wouldn't there also be dates with the charges? And, wouldn't all the charges be on the same date? I wish you well. __________________ Anna "I've learned that people will forget what you said, people will forget what you did, but people will never forget how you made them feel. Maya Angelou

06-20-2006, 06:46 AM	#14 (permalink)
Chance JUST DO IT!! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Here Or There Posts: 7,090 Blog Entries: 9	Personally knowing that working this program and turning things over to a Power Greater than me, things just seem to work out. I also have felony convictions. I am working, regardless of my past. We have to focus on a solution here, which many people here are doing. One thing there are always yards to be mowed, I for one go around door to door and get work. It helps and it is better than nothing. Putting up flyer's in laundry mats, grocery stores, malls, etc. Painting, putting one foot in front of the other and leaving the results to something more higher than I. It works it really does. Love Vic __________________ With Love and Respect Vic Life isn't yesterday or tomorrow it is in the now.....

06-27-2006, 11:27 AM	#22 (permalink)
GeorgiaPeach Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 491	Did you get along well with your probation officer? Sometimes they will help you get things fixed if they can or direct you in the right place. You can also get a copy of the final from your probation officer if they will give you one. I have NEVER in my life heard of a $40.00 record search fee. Those things are a matter of public record. If you have the case number it should be no problem for them to find it even with just your name they can find it. That is CRAZY. Can you call your local legislator? Maybe he/she could help? I will have to look up some of the CT laws and see what I can come up with. GP __________________ The Future Belongs to Those Who Believe in the Beauty of Their Dreams.-Elanor Roosevelt

06-19-2006, 06:12 PM	#2 (permalink)
Lollipop Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 859	Im with Karma, I dont get it, Im so sorry you didnt get the position but......why didnt they hire you?

06-19-2006, 07:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sober_John Employment Exertion Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: WV USA Posts: 751	More than ten years ago I had to many drinks and made the mistake of getting behind the wheel. There was no crash there was a few words said back and forth to the officer so it blew way out context. I went to court even though I have no other crimes the officer and "MADD" where there well with all that was against me I lost the case big time. As you know DMV also had to give me a suspended license but it shows four offences, unless you are a lawyer or DMV to deciefer it looks like multible DUI and drugs when in fact I have one and only one DUI. I never denied the fact I had to many drinks then and other times before. As I stated before it is on my credit history yes they can do that it says mutible alcohol and drugs it states big letters red ink SERIOUS OFFENDER. CT. DMV is Req. to maintian for ten years. In my 10yrs clean I have taken hundreds of preemployment drug test passed everone . But the fact is Company's don't like "serious offenders" they put it on alot of aplication don't applie if you got a DUI. Some don't and when they see that I put it down they say sorry your to much of a risk or if they do hire me and thier INS. CO. see my DUI they say well your a drug addict and to stay employed you need treament. I am trying to make a honest liveing. But my DUI is on Credit report, driving history and rap sheet as "serious offender" for life becuase of CT. laws and no I can't move to another state every state has DUI agreement.

06-19-2006, 07:07 PM	#4 (permalink)
2dayzmuse Paused Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 5,083	In the last 10 years, no one is willing to hire you on as a permanent employee? Your job must require a valid driver's license?

06-19-2006, 07:31 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sober_John Employment Exertion Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: WV USA Posts: 751	My driver's license is valid but It list four offense which is not true. I have "one" DUI. I have talk to CT. DMV and all I get is this is how we do it.

06-19-2006, 07:44 PM	#8 (permalink)
2dayzmuse Paused Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Washington Posts: 5,083	If that is how it is done, you would think that one employer would understand that it happened 10 years ago. That really is a bummer. Something isn't right there. When they ran a background check where I work, they got seven pages worth of results back. Not a good thing. I have one mar on my record, but the computer was pulling results from different women with the same name as myself. The LT. asked my boss if she was sure that she wanted to hire me. She was willing to give me a chance. Come to find out that the woman had the same name, but different SS#'s of course. You'd think there would be some way to clear this up. I also will mention that I was denied a different government job because of something that happened over 10 years ago. I only have one flaw on my record. I was told the job was a sure thing then was later told via answering machine that they couldn't hire me because of the incident that happened 10 years ago. I was open and upfront about it and was told it wouldn't be a problem. Looking back at it now, it was for the better. I have a better job now that I love. Chin up and try not to be to discouraged. Have faith, something will come up. I know you feel defeated. Keep trying, your opportunity may be just around the corner. I agree with Anna. There must be a way to clean your history up. Something just isn't right there.

06-20-2006, 07:05 AM	#15 (permalink)
Lollipop Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 859	Good Morning! Question.......Do You have copies of the police reports? As well as the charges? What about a public transcript of the court hearing? And the DMV records? Copies of previous drug test results? If not, you really need to, these are public record, they cant deny you them. The reason I am asking is that it has been bugging me since yesterday and I been thinking....(ruh roh.......LOL) Seriously, Im thinking, Ok if the regular submit an application, send us your resume` thing isnt working, how bout this........ Next interview, when it comes down to the stage of background check etc. change your approach, have all your paperwork with you and ready, go ahead and be honest and upfront about whats in the paperwork.....and SHOW the employer the facts, dates etc. explain up front that before he/she runs a check, this is what will be found and why, explain the mistake on the charges and why it shows 4 instead of 1 and the fact that it was 10 years ago!!!! No need to tell them you are a recovering/recovered addict etc, just the plain facts....this is what happened, it was 10 years ago, it was a mistake but it was only one and I havent had any type of situation like it since!!!! If they are really interested in you, they will respect your honesty and take it into consideration, If they are THAT picky, they can check your story as to HOW the 1 offense is listed as 4 causing you to be a "Serious offender" for themselves and find that what you revealed really DOES check out!!!! Just an idea, best of luck, keep us posted!!! Liss

06-20-2006, 09:32 AM	#16 (permalink)
Sober_John Employment Exertion Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: WV USA Posts: 751	Unfortunately I don't have the original arrest report. I did get the Court record with thier discloser notice. The info contain here is for this Court only. That little statment is misleading. I would go to every court but thier is atleast 18 courts and they all charge fees. I know because I was convicted in GA18.

06-20-2006, 10:39 AM	#17 (permalink)
Lollipop Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 859	You have the right to a copy of the report. Call the clerk of courts and the police department, tell them where and when you were arrested, even if it is on microfish, they have to have it somewhere. Hound them until you get answers!!!! Dont give up, they have to be able to find it regardless of which court as long as you know the county or jurisdiction. Then they will direct you as to which place you need to pay. Good Luck to you, your in my thoughts! Liss

06-22-2006, 03:33 AM	#18 (permalink)
Sober_John Employment Exertion Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: WV USA Posts: 751	I did get the Court record with thier discloser notice. The info contain here is for this Court only. That little statment is misleading. I would go to every court but thier is atleast 18 courts and they all charge fees.

06-22-2006, 04:09 AM	#19 (permalink)
equus Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: uk Posts: 3,056	Whenever I've hit a job issue where I'm blocked from going in the direction I really want to go - I've studied. I left school with hardly any qualifications, while I was a groom I took GCSE's (16yr old's exams!!). Later while there was no real direction I took an access course which meant I could enter Uni. I was still blocked from where I wanted to be so I went to uni! Now I'm a good earner but again blocked in my current post so I'll do an MA. I know education can be expensive but there's usually some assistance or way if you're unemployed, if not learning a new skill or trade doesn't have to be formal - there's volunteer work that often comes with training. I know you need a wage but if you have no job then the only upside is the time that gives you and spending that time learning will help. If you're told you are not worth the risk then there are TWO things you can do - one to reduce the percieved risk but as you discussed above you can't find a way - the OTHER is to become worth more until you are worth the risk. What about being self employed? That's another potential option.

06-27-2006, 11:32 AM	#23 (permalink)
GeorgiaPeach Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 491	Are you anywhere close to North Dighton, MA? There is an Auto Auction there called American Auto Auction and it is owned by Manheim and they hire anybody and everybody from what I know. Check it out if you are anywhere close. __________________ The Future Belongs to Those Who Believe in the Beauty of Their Dreams.-Elanor Roosevelt