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abtchonamission · 10-09-2005, 03:53 PM

I have a 90 Honda Accord (LX I think - no kidding, I think - I AM a girl, you know.)

It starts when it wants to...I'll go to the store, run in for a gallon of milk, come back out, and it won't start. I can start it no problem if I wait anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes. Any ideas?

Chance · 10-09-2005, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by abtchonamission

I have a 90 Honda Accord (LX I think - no kidding, I think - I AM a girl, you know.)

It starts when it wants to...I'll go to the store, run in for a gallon of milk, come back out, and it won't start. I can start it no problem if I wait anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes. Any ideas?

Well I donno about anything but what you just described happens to my 90 Ford F150 pickup it has a mind of its own. I donno maybe check out your terminals on your battery or maybe your fuel filter.

2tough2die · 10-09-2005, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by abtchonamission

I have a 90 Honda Accord (LX I think - no kidding, I think - I AM a girl, you know.)

It starts when it wants to...I'll go to the store, run in for a gallon of milk, come back out, and it won't start. I can start it no problem if I wait anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes. Any ideas?

Have you tried the Men's Forum? Anywhere you have lots of men talking cars like they do in there you're bound to find a few thousand experts on any engine problem LOL

Is that a fuel injection car? Injectors might need cleaning... heard about this is Civics before.

- Greg

***Time2Surrender*** · 10-09-2005, 04:05 PM

If the starter is working okay, and it’s just the engine won’t start I would suggest pulling up the carpet on the front passenger side of the vehicle where the floor slopes up. When you remove the carpeting you'll find a metal plate with a window in it. Through that window not only can you see the computer but you can also see a red LED. With the key on see if the LED is flashing, if it flashing the computer is providing a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC).Some Honda’s of that age with starting problems (only when hot) that will set and ignition output signal code. If this code is present you may have and ignition module (Honda calls it an igniter) or a connection problem in that area.

abtchonamission · 10-09-2005, 04:07 PM

Battery seems fine, according to Mike. He said something I don't understand (being a girl about car stuff and all) about how it's sounds like it might start but never has the 'turning over' sound?

***Time2Surrender*** · 10-09-2005, 07:11 PM

I think it's the "igniter" but I haven't seen the car.Can you have Mike check to see if it's getting spark? I'm not a Honda expert.You may get more info here. http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=92664

**BigSis** · 10-09-2005, 07:49 PM

Damn Trisha... All I know about Hondas is they never die -- you gotta kill 'em.

Where the hell IS that mission you are in such a hurry to get to, eh?

stormyautumn · 10-09-2005, 07:53 PM

That happend a few years back with my old car, an 89 Toyota Camry, they replaced the starter and it was starting for awhile, a couple months, but then kept doing it again. I don't know whatever was wrong with it because the transmission blew after that and I got rid of it..lol

Gabe · 10-09-2005, 07:56 PM

Oh yeah Trisha.
By all means, post about it in the Men's Forum.

**Ann** · 10-09-2005, 08:12 PM

Trisha, I think Mike is right about it being an igniter and it should be checked out because eventually it may quit altogether on you. Take it somewhere reputable because it's not a cheap job. I could be wrong, but I regognize the symptoms.

Hugs
Ann

p.S. Mens Forum indeed...huff puff hissy fit

abtchonamission · 10-09-2005, 08:13 PM

NO mens room for me, thanks.

I think Mike looked for that sparky type thing. I'll give him the link, let him look at it. I wanna win the lottery and buy a new car. Thank God we have a lottery in NC now.

roadie58 · 10-09-2005, 08:24 PM

Take it to the dealer, they've got a diagnostic computer they plug into a socket and presto, you'll know the problem. A fuel filter clog would manifest itself all the time. Sounds like a vapor lock if it shuts down and wont restart when hot, but it's cool outside now, so that's prob not it.

Honda's are notoriously reliable. Just spend a few bucks at the dealer, you could tinker forever and not figure it out. I'm on my 4th Accord right now. They all last 10 years or 200,000 miles, but I'm real easy on them and they get all the factory maintenance.

abtchonamission · 10-09-2005, 08:27 PM

Thanks roadie. This one is over 10 years, well over 200,000, and the deadbeat that had it before me drove it hard.

Lottery purchase - HERE I COME!

***Time2Surrender*** · 10-09-2005, 10:01 PM

(((Trish))) I did a little searching. Check out this link and then ask Mike to take a look at it too. http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troub.../aa010301b.htm I'm still going with the igniter.Anyway,I hope this helps.

Gooch · 10-10-2005, 10:43 AM

going back to the original post title yes...

I watched my sponsor change the fuel pump in his CRX ... If I ever own anything that requires me to remove the front axle to get to the fuel pump, somebody please shoot me.

abtchonamission · 10-10-2005, 10:48 AM

OMG - Gooch. That's a horror story. I thought changing the alternator on the drive from NC to MA was bad.

**cece1960** · 10-10-2005, 11:16 AM

HI trish,
I'm one of thos "girls" that think I can troubleshoot anything using the internet, books etc. I usually have no clue what I'm talking about and it makes my guy aquaintances roll their eyes.
But I've had a lot of luck by doing searches on the internet. You'll pull up links such as this
http://experts.about.com/q/814/1433203.htm
Just keep throwing in words that describe the problem
Good luck!
Cece

abtchonamission · 10-10-2005, 05:27 PM

Mike looked at the three sites posted - he's excited about that second one Time2 posted...he thinks that might be just the problem, said it sounds exactly like what we have going on.

I'm glad I have all of you...AND that I don't have to drive to Time2 to have it looked at!

Dan · 10-12-2005, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by abtchonamission

I have a 90 Honda Accord

That's too bad.

abtchonamission · 10-12-2005, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by DangerousDan

That's too bad.

Tell me about it.

I'd much rather have a truck.

***Time2Surrender*** · 10-12-2005, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by abtchonamission

I'd much rather have a truck.

(((Trish))) I bet you could turn a few heads in this rig.

abtchonamission · 10-12-2005, 06:17 PM

Tee Hee... looks a lot like my ex-husband's truck that I used to 'hijack' (innocently, of course.)

Only that one's shiny, that one's much newer, that one probably runs much better - but it's black, it's a Ford, and it's BIG. My boys loved watching people run across the street when they saw me coming in the BIG truck. I was thinking more like Ford Excursion...but that one, it'll do.

Greenbug · 10-12-2005, 06:51 PM

Is this an automatic? since you're a girl I would say YES? (kidding)
Try to start it in neutral the next time it happens, could be a nuetral saftey switch.

WOW that second link from time2 sounds fun! Start car, rev motor to 2500 rpm, turn off check this, disco that, Bet your glad you got a Honda!

It sounds like something electronic since it does work sometimes (Which can be the biggest pain in the boot!)

Good lcuk
GB

10-09-2005, 03:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
abtchonamission Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the mountain air Posts: 1,349	Okay - who knows about Hondas? I have a 90 Honda Accord (LX I think - no kidding, I think - I AM a girl, you know.) It starts when it wants to...I'll go to the store, run in for a gallon of milk, come back out, and it won't start. I can start it no problem if I wait anywhere from 5 to 20 minutes. Any ideas? __________________ Faith... When you come to the end of all the light you know and you are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly.

10-09-2005, 04:05 PM	#4 (permalink)
*Time2Surrender* Community Greeter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hillsboro,Oregon and St Johns US Virgin Islands Posts: 7,073 Blog Entries: 3	If the starter is working okay, and it’s just the engine won’t start I would suggest pulling up the carpet on the front passenger side of the vehicle where the floor slopes up. When you remove the carpeting you'll find a metal plate with a window in it. Through that window not only can you see the computer but you can also see a red LED. With the key on see if the LED is flashing, if it flashing the computer is providing a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC).Some Honda’s of that age with starting problems (only when hot) that will set and ignition output signal code. If this code is present you may have and ignition module (Honda calls it an igniter) or a connection problem in that area. __________________ "Jack and Diane" painted a picture of my life and my dreams, Suddenly this crazy world made more sense to me Well I heard it today and I couldn't help but sing along Cause everytime I hear that song...

10-09-2005, 04:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
abtchonamission Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the mountain air Posts: 1,349	Battery seems fine, according to Mike. He said something I don't understand (being a girl about car stuff and all) about how it's sounds like it might start but never has the 'turning over' sound? __________________ Faith... When you come to the end of all the light you know and you are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly.

10-09-2005, 07:11 PM	#6 (permalink)
*Time2Surrender* Community Greeter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hillsboro,Oregon and St Johns US Virgin Islands Posts: 7,073 Blog Entries: 3	I think it's the "igniter" but I haven't seen the car.Can you have Mike check to see if it's getting spark? I'm not a Honda expert.You may get more info here. http://www.honda-acura.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=92664 __________________ "Jack and Diane" painted a picture of my life and my dreams, Suddenly this crazy world made more sense to me Well I heard it today and I couldn't help but sing along Cause everytime I hear that song...

10-09-2005, 07:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
BigSis On a tear Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Volcano Country! Posts: 3,157	Damn Trisha... All I know about Hondas is they never die -- you gotta kill 'em. Where the hell IS that mission you are in such a hurry to get to, eh? __________________ No matter how spoiled the past may be, our future is spotless.... BigSis

10-09-2005, 07:53 PM	#8 (permalink)
stormyautumn Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 944	That happend a few years back with my old car, an 89 Toyota Camry, they replaced the starter and it was starting for awhile, a couple months, but then kept doing it again. I don't know whatever was wrong with it because the transmission blew after that and I got rid of it..lol __________________ "If life is a bowl of cherries; what am I always doing in the pits" - Erma Bombeck

10-09-2005, 07:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
Gabe Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,959	Oh yeah Trisha. By all means, post about it in the Men's Forum.

10-09-2005, 08:12 PM	#10 (permalink)
Ann ~Sharing Our Light~ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: By The Lake Posts: 15,511	Trisha, I think Mike is right about it being an igniter and it should be checked out because eventually it may quit altogether on you. Take it somewhere reputable because it's not a cheap job. I could be wrong, but I regognize the symptoms. Hugs Ann p.S. Mens Forum indeed...huff puff hissy fit __________________ Somewhere between the gator swamp and the Taj Mahal there is a path, it may be hidden, overgrown or may blend in with the other surroundings, but it is there, it's your path and it is calling you.~Frankly~

10-09-2005, 08:13 PM	#11 (permalink)
abtchonamission Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the mountain air Posts: 1,349	NO mens room for me, thanks. I think Mike looked for that sparky type thing. I'll give him the link, let him look at it. I wanna win the lottery and buy a new car. Thank God we have a lottery in NC now. __________________ Faith... When you come to the end of all the light you know and you are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly.

10-09-2005, 08:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
roadie58 "The BAND" workshop ROCKS! Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 1,498	Take it to the dealer, they've got a diagnostic computer they plug into a socket and presto, you'll know the problem. A fuel filter clog would manifest itself all the time. Sounds like a vapor lock if it shuts down and wont restart when hot, but it's cool outside now, so that's prob not it. Honda's are notoriously reliable. Just spend a few bucks at the dealer, you could tinker forever and not figure it out. I'm on my 4th Accord right now. They all last 10 years or 200,000 miles, but I'm real easy on them and they get all the factory maintenance. __________________ Roadie - frigging TWO YEARS clean and sober, if I can do it, you can do it! read about my adventures staying clean in sober in 'I'm ALIVE V2' in the Substance Abuse Forum..

10-09-2005, 08:27 PM	#13 (permalink)
abtchonamission Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the mountain air Posts: 1,349	Thanks roadie. This one is over 10 years, well over 200,000, and the deadbeat that had it before me drove it hard. Lottery purchase - HERE I COME! __________________ Faith... When you come to the end of all the light you know and you are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly.

10-09-2005, 10:01 PM	#14 (permalink)
*Time2Surrender* Community Greeter Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Hillsboro,Oregon and St Johns US Virgin Islands Posts: 7,073 Blog Entries: 3	(((Trish))) I did a little searching. Check out this link and then ask Mike to take a look at it too. http://autorepair.about.com/cs/troub.../aa010301b.htm I'm still going with the igniter.Anyway,I hope this helps. __________________ "Jack and Diane" painted a picture of my life and my dreams, Suddenly this crazy world made more sense to me Well I heard it today and I couldn't help but sing along Cause everytime I hear that song...

10-10-2005, 10:43 AM	#15 (permalink)
Gooch Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: out there... Posts: 2,668	going back to the original post title yes... I watched my sponsor change the fuel pump in his CRX ... If I ever own anything that requires me to remove the front axle to get to the fuel pump, somebody please shoot me.

10-10-2005, 10:48 AM	#16 (permalink)
abtchonamission Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the mountain air Posts: 1,349	OMG - Gooch. That's a horror story. I thought changing the alternator on the drive from NC to MA was bad. __________________ Faith... When you come to the end of all the light you know and you are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly.

10-10-2005, 11:16 AM	#17 (permalink)
cece1960 Forum Leader Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: PA Posts: 1,232	HI trish, I'm one of thos "girls" that think I can troubleshoot anything using the internet, books etc. I usually have no clue what I'm talking about and it makes my guy aquaintances roll their eyes. But I've had a lot of luck by doing searches on the internet. You'll pull up links such as this http://experts.about.com/q/814/1433203.htm Just keep throwing in words that describe the problem Good luck! Cece __________________ The great thing in the world is not so much where we stand, as in what direction we are going. - Oliver Wendell Holmes

10-10-2005, 05:27 PM	#18 (permalink)
abtchonamission Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the mountain air Posts: 1,349	Mike looked at the three sites posted - he's excited about that second one Time2 posted...he thinks that might be just the problem, said it sounds exactly like what we have going on. I'm glad I have all of you...AND that I don't have to drive to Time2 to have it looked at! __________________ Faith... When you come to the end of all the light you know and you are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly.

10-12-2005, 06:17 PM	#22 (permalink)
abtchonamission Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: In the mountain air Posts: 1,349	Tee Hee... looks a lot like my ex-husband's truck that I used to 'hijack' (innocently, of course.) Only that one's shiny, that one's much newer, that one probably runs much better - but it's black, it's a Ford, and it's BIG. My boys loved watching people run across the street when they saw me coming in the BIG truck. I was thinking more like Ford Excursion...but that one, it'll do. __________________ Faith... When you come to the end of all the light you know and you are about to step off into the darkness of the unknown, faith is knowing one of two things will happen: there will be something solid to stand on or you will be taught how to fly.

10-12-2005, 06:51 PM	#23 (permalink)
Greenbug In Paradise! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Pair-O-Dice, CA Posts: 422	Is this an automatic? since you're a girl I would say YES? (kidding) Try to start it in neutral the next time it happens, could be a nuetral saftey switch. WOW that second link from time2 sounds fun! Start car, rev motor to 2500 rpm, turn off check this, disco that, Bet your glad you got a Honda! It sounds like something electronic since it does work sometimes (Which can be the biggest pain in the boot!) Good lcuk GB __________________ NEED HELP WITH RECOVERY?, SICK AND TIRED OF BEING SICK AND TIRED?, NEED HELP STARTING AND FINDING A NEW WAY TO LIVE?, THEN..... GET YOUR A$$ TO A MEETING (((NA))) (((AA))) WE'LL SAVE A SEAT FOR YOU! A MUST READ!!!