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Sugah · 03-24-2012, 11:59 AM

Looking for anyone who's read the work of Elaine Pagel on early Christianity and is willing to form an email or closed Facebook (Google?) discussion group. I'm particularly interested in anyone who's studied the Oxford Group (admittedly, I have not--it's on my list after I plow through a few more of Pagel's books) and how their teachings might relate to Pagel's study of the gnostic texts.

Peace & Love,
Sugah

UpperbucksAAguy · 03-24-2012, 02:26 PM

I have read quite a bit about the oxford group and would love to form a closed discussion with folks

omegasupreme · 03-24-2012, 04:48 PM

Can I be a part of said group?

Boleo · 03-24-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Sugah

--it's on my list after I plow through a few more of Pagel's books) and how their teachings might relate to Pagel's study of the gnostic texts.

WOW! Someone in AA who wants to take a look at the real source of where the AA principles came from (It ain't just Christianity). I'm impressed. Though I must admit, I am a neophyte when it comes to Facebook. That stuff is too esoteric for me. LOL! I have read the following:

The Gnostic Gospels by Elaine Pagels

The Nag Hammadi Scriptures: The Revised and Updated Translation of
Sacred Gnostic Texts by James M. Robinson and Marvin Meyer

Not God: A History of Alcoholics Anonymous by Ernest Kurtz

New Wine: The Spiritual Roots Of The Twelve Step Miracle by Mel B.

Practice These Principles And What Is The Oxford Group by Anonymous

Tommyh · 03-24-2012, 06:40 PM

I have read about frank Buchman and the Oxford Group and even some about the gnostics.Elaine Pagel is new to me.I would be interested in a email group since I do not do facebook.

Sugah · 03-24-2012, 08:13 PM

Awesome! A google group is probably the way to go, and I don't think you have to have a gmail address to do it. If you all want to pm me an email address, I'll set one up.

Peace & Love,
Sugah

TheJungianThing · 03-24-2012, 08:31 PM

I am reading Not-God right now. I read some of the books in the Gnostic Gospels about 20 years ago, and I've read about Buchman at the Orange Papers.

What's the aim of the group ?

Boleo · 03-25-2012, 04:51 AM

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Originally Posted by TheJungianThing

...I've read about Buchman at the Orange Papers.

So have I and IMO the Orange Papers is not unbiased journalism. Not that it lies mind you, just that it leaves out anything positive about AA history.

Sugah · 03-25-2012, 07:01 AM

I'm looking for discussion partners -- people who've read what I'm reading or those who've read complementary/supplementary texts. I labeled the thread "Off topic" primarily because I'm not looking to discuss only AA. I'll invite anyone interested to the group and keep it as free as possible, though I will ask that it not become a lion's den <wink>.

Peace & Love,
Sugah

sugarbear1 · 03-25-2012, 07:06 AM

I'd like to be involved, mostly to read, but if there's a specific book to be suggested (I've read Not-God by Ernest Kurtz, which is mostly about AA), I'd be interested in reading it. Let me know and I'll find you.

I leave the orange papers alone, they are so anti AA it isn't funny.

Boleo, thanks for your reading list.

Regards,

Sugah · 03-25-2012, 07:30 AM

PM me your email address and I'll add you, sugarbear.

Peace & Love,
Sugah

Sugah · 03-25-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by omegasupreme

Can I be a part of said group?

Sure! PM me your email address.

Peace & Love,
Sugah

03-24-2012, 11:59 AM	#1 (permalink)
Sugah Om, Aum, Ohm... Mini Pool 2 Champion! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Punxsutawney/Pittsburgh Posts: 4,669	Off topic: Scholars? Looking for anyone who's read the work of Elaine Pagel on early Christianity and is willing to form an email or closed Facebook (Google?) discussion group. I'm particularly interested in anyone who's studied the Oxford Group (admittedly, I have not--it's on my list after I plow through a few more of Pagel's books) and how their teachings might relate to Pagel's study of the gnostic texts. Peace & Love, Sugah __________________ There's a train leaving nightly called when all is said and done Keep me in your heart for awhile ~WZ ANS 01/29/86 - 08/04/08 DAS 02/27/63 - 05/11/12

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omegasupreme Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: The Trenches, Texas Posts: 755	Can I be a part of said group? __________________ “There is only one cause of unhappiness: the false beliefs you have in your head, beliefs so widespread, so commonly held, that it never occurs to you to question them.”-Anthony de Mello

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Sugah Om, Aum, Ohm... Mini Pool 2 Champion! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Punxsutawney/Pittsburgh Posts: 4,669	Awesome! A google group is probably the way to go, and I don't think you have to have a gmail address to do it. If you all want to pm me an email address, I'll set one up. Peace & Love, Sugah __________________ There's a train leaving nightly called when all is said and done Keep me in your heart for awhile ~WZ ANS 01/29/86 - 08/04/08 DAS 02/27/63 - 05/11/12

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Sugah Om, Aum, Ohm... Mini Pool 2 Champion! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Punxsutawney/Pittsburgh Posts: 4,669	I'm looking for discussion partners -- people who've read what I'm reading or those who've read complementary/supplementary texts. I labeled the thread "Off topic" primarily because I'm not looking to discuss only AA. I'll invite anyone interested to the group and keep it as free as possible, though I will ask that it not become a lion's den <wink>. Peace & Love, Sugah __________________ There's a train leaving nightly called when all is said and done Keep me in your heart for awhile ~WZ ANS 01/29/86 - 08/04/08 DAS 02/27/63 - 05/11/12

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sugarbear1 ~sb Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: MD Posts: 9,867	I'd like to be involved, mostly to read, but if there's a specific book to be suggested (I've read Not-God by Ernest Kurtz, which is mostly about AA), I'd be interested in reading it. Let me know and I'll find you. I leave the orange papers alone, they are so anti AA it isn't funny. Boleo, thanks for your reading list. Regards, __________________ Someday everything will all make sense. For now, laugh at confusion, smile through tears, & remind yourself that everything happens for a reason. All Big Book quotes are from the first edition. Linked with the permission of Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, Inc.

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UpperbucksAAguy Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 464	I have read quite a bit about the oxford group and would love to form a closed discussion with folks

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Tommyh Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,977	I have read about frank Buchman and the Oxford Group and even some about the gnostics.Elaine Pagel is new to me.I would be interested in a email group since I do not do facebook.

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TheJungianThing Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 443	I am reading Not-God right now. I read some of the books in the Gnostic Gospels about 20 years ago, and I've read about Buchman at the Orange Papers. What's the aim of the group ?

03-25-2012, 07:30 AM	#11 (permalink)
Sugah Om, Aum, Ohm... Mini Pool 2 Champion! Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Punxsutawney/Pittsburgh Posts: 4,669	PM me your email address and I'll add you, sugarbear. Peace & Love, Sugah __________________ There's a train leaving nightly called when all is said and done Keep me in your heart for awhile ~WZ ANS 01/29/86 - 08/04/08 DAS 02/27/63 - 05/11/12

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