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The Raven and the Frog


In Native American culture the Raven was called upon in ritual so that visions could be clarified. Native holy men understood that what the physical eye sees, is not necessarily the truth, and he would call upon the Raven for clarity in these matters. The Raven is also the keeper of secrets.

Due to the fascinating transitions the Frog goes through in its life, it is a symbol of metamorphosis. Furthermore, the Frog’s dual time spent on land and water represents duality of the soul.

-Info from symbolic-meanings .com

The fox is thought by many ancient cultures to be a messenger between our world and spirit world.
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A step backward

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Posted 06-28-2008 at 03:00 PM by adore79
Updated 02-14-2009 at 08:14 AM by adore79

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    Aysha's Avatar
    AWW Felly..It sucks when you have to dig up old bones.
    And I know it must feel like your running in place.
    I really have no experience with the meds and stuff.
    I just know that your a such an awesome person.
    And I hate to see you feeling bad.
    I wish I had more to say to help you.
    You know I am here for you.
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    Posted 06-28-2008 at 03:09 PM by Aysha Aysha is offline
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    Hang in there, fel! I don't know all that much about bipolar/schizo...(meds) etc. Just wanted you to know that I will be thinking of you.
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    Posted 06-28-2008 at 03:11 PM by ANGELINA243 ANGELINA243 is offline
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    Hey Felicia,

    New in recovery, my shrink put me on risperdal - he thought I displayed schiz tendencies on top of my depression. The risperdal did something weird to me - after 3 days, boom it was like everything was in colour and I had energy to get out of bed. But soon after, things dulled again and I became sluggish and tired. I took myself off the risperdal, against medical advice.
    Listen, what you have been diagnosed does not define who you are. And remember, you are the patient, and have a say about what goes in your body.
    Can you try smaller AA meetings? My home group has about 12-15 people show up. Then maybe one on one with someone afterward?
    If not AA, is there another recovery program you would be comfortable with? A support group? It's really important to reach out and attempt to connect with others, Fel.
    Hang in there.
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    Posted 06-28-2008 at 03:31 PM by Rowan Rowan is offline
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    I agree with Ro.
    My Dr is defining me by my addiciton for physical ailments.
    It doesnt make it right.
    Only you know whats going on in there.
    Just because they are Dr's doesnt always make hem right.
    I subscribe to Reader's Digest.
    And there was a section on what Dr's arent telling you. Kinda like a confessional from Dr's of all sorts.
    I couldnt believe some of the stuff these Dr's were coming clean about.
    Hang in there felly...We love ya.
    Have you looked more into IOP?
    I have to say my first week was a little sluggish. I really found myself not wantign to commit. But I did make myself. And byt he end of my first week. I already feel a connection with some of the people there.
    Not all. But i am not seeking approval. All I need is that few. Because before I had none.
    I am going to go to a small NA meeting I know of on Sundays. I tried the bigger ones and felt so overwhelmed. Like 30 people. I am not a poeple person either.
    Give yourself time and be easy with yourself.
    I still havent forgotten about the kite idea.
    I am going to get one as soon as I get some money.
    Bet your bottom I am.
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    Posted 06-28-2008 at 03:54 PM by Aysha Aysha is offline
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    Thanks guys, you are so special. I know i should get out in society more, its just im so afraid of people. I really am trying, well, im not really trying. I've been thinking about going to church, there I really wouldnt have to talk, but i would be around people. i dont know. i just hate feeling eyes on me, and not knowing what they are thinking, or what their motives are, you know? Im going to take the risperdal, when i was on it last it kinda dulled me to everything and made me a zombie, maybe that wouldnt be all that bad. Anyway, ill keep you updated. Big hugs .
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    Posted 06-28-2008 at 06:50 PM by adore79 adore79 is offline
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    That's why my doc put me on the risperdal, Fel, because I had that paranoia you describe. I thought everyone was watching me. I couldn't go for a walk or ride my bike or anything I thought people were staring at me.
    Hang in there and yeah keep us updated!
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    Posted 06-28-2008 at 07:01 PM by Rowan Rowan is offline
 

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