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TonyB · 01-21-2006, 08:27 AM

I posted my story on a different site. In hopes of reaching out to the A that still suffers. And I got this PM back from one of the members.
I changed the names and places and didn't list the site. Just thought I would share with you all to see what your thought on it were.
TonyB (Uncle Tony)

Re: Tony, if I may...

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Someone wrote on 01-21-2006 09:33 AM:
I know you're going through an extremely difficult time right now; I did the AA route back in '89 when ISC Someplace still supported the neighborhood STEP program.

Right now I'm having to support my baby brother and his attempts to stay sober. It's been just over 2 years for him, and he 'thinks' he's worked all the steps to completion. Little does he know how much more work is needed.....

You've done it before, so working your steps will be easier this time. But Tony, you need to work them more privately. Putting so much out there for public consumption can, unfortunately, lead one to think he's tackling a couple of steps in one. Trying to get and stay sober is a very personal act; trying to do it with cyberspace looking over your shoulder will only add to the difficulty.

Good luck with this day.

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MY REPLY:

Interesting concept. I just don’t see it that way. You are right, the steps are personal. I haven’t posted anything about the steps. The 5th step only requires me to share with another human being. And that’s what I did. Don’t think anyone would want to air the 4th if you KWIM.
As far as me having a difficult time right now. No, you totally got that one wrong. I’m living happy, joyous and free. No kidding. For the first time in my life, I no longer feel any of that anger, guilt, remorse, resentment or fear, because I have turned my life over and He takes care of me.
The reason I posted what I have is two fold. 1. So I may give freely of what I have found. And 2. In the hope that I may be able to reach the alcoholic that still suffers. Because I know they are out there.
I am in very close contact with my sponsor and WE thought it would be a good way for me to “pass it on” while I’m underway. (deployed)
Though I can appreciate where you are coming from. I am in no way ashamed of being in recovery, there are 100 people on my ship that know it. And they have also witnessed the miracle of recovery. So, I’m just going to keep on keeping on. But thanks for the feedback.
Tony B

If you want, you could turn your bro on to my recovery site. I just started it and I could use some old timers. It’s http://www.uncletonyshouseofpain.com/recovery

And BTW. There is no completion of the steps. It's a life long process.

Justme57 · 01-21-2006, 08:40 AM

Good reply Tony

HUGX
Lee

TonyB · 01-21-2006, 09:02 AM

And so the story goes on. All good stuff! God loves me, this I know. I get what I need every day!
UT

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Someone wrote on 01-21-2006 10:16 AM:
Thanks for 'getting' where my concern came from! We're different, since very, very few knew how severe my drinking had become. I was Queen of the Blackouts. Not knowing if so-and-so's account of my actions was true was what scared me most! That, and finding out I'd been driving through downtown Boston with no memory of it........****, I hated driving there sober .

Alcoholism runs in my family - all 4 kids, both parents and a step-dad. I only recently discovered a connected illness called Borderline Personality Disorder. Your '12 steps to insanity' read almost symptom for symptom what could well be a root reason for your/our drinking.

Down the road, try looking into www.bpdcentral.com. The site offers a ton of resources, explanations, and proves the psychological causation. It's really helped me figure out why I started to drink and has explained how even being sober hasn't changed my mom's or brother's behavior.

So sorry to learn you're on the that ship. And to think I actually dream-sheeted her once...

MY REPLY:

You are right. And that's what makes the "12 steps to insanity" so funny. It pokes fun at all those "control" issues I used to have. And how I tried to inflict my will on the world. Man, was I ever nuts!
My problem the first time I was "around" the program was, that I never got a sponsor. I never did the steps. I just ended up getting messed up again right after I got out of rehab. Man, was I a crazy b@st@rd or what? I thought I could find an easier softer way and control my drinking. At cost to everything I loved.
When I came back in the program. I did a bunch of things different. I got acceptance. I got willing. I got a sponsor. And most importantly, I got into the steps. The real miracle was, as a result. I got sober. I mean true emotional sobriety.
Trust in the promises, they are real. I was amazed before I was half way though. Thank you God! Oh, and BTW I'm also an athiest, or at least I was!

Thanks for PM'ing me back. See I love this! I get to have a meeting while I'm underway! So Cool!!!
God Bless,
Tony

Justme57 · 01-21-2006, 09:29 AM

Aha ! Tony , it is good isn't it ? my son was in the navy too, Aussie navy that is

Hey , do you like my new siggy ? pressy from dan

HUGX
Lee

TonyB · 01-21-2006, 09:55 AM

Lee,
That is nice. Good stuff, no doubt

I dig the sig too!

BillJ · 01-23-2006, 07:45 AM

Tony,

I don't know what you shared at that other site, but what you've shared here seems spot-on in keeping with your stated intent - to fellowship with others in recovery, and be of service to those still suffering.

All IMHO, of course!

Also didn't know you were active duty, let alone on deployment. Vaya con Dios, mi amigo! Safe journey to you!

TonyB · 01-23-2006, 11:34 AM

Bill,
I have posted a lot of stuff. My story and a bunch of other thing. I'm very open about my recovery. I feel that I expended so much effort to cover up my disease that it's good for me to be open about my recovery. It's not like I did my 4th step on line... Wow... What a thought that is! But I'm not afraid to talk to anyone about what it was like, what happend and what I'm like now. It's all apart of the experiance, strength and hope. My intent was to reach out to those that still suffer and may not be aware of sites like this one, or of places like AA.
I have received a lot of positive feedback from hundreds of people and then this gal dropped this on me. Claiming that she "used" to be in the program.
The whole exchange with her reminded me of something I heard at a meeting right before I left. "TAKE MY ADVICE, I'M NOT USING IT."

My wife was bent about the whole thing and was like. "She has no program and now she wants to run yours too."
I guess it takes all kinds to make the world go round.
Uncle Tony

**best** · 01-23-2006, 12:03 PM

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That, and finding out I'd been driving through downtown Boston with no memory of it...

I am sober and I do that every morning *LOL*

Out of the tunnel, the sun hits your face, and then the thought comes...
Wow I am here already? *LOL*

Not so funny when on the bike though. If you ever want to know what it is like to be sober and get sober in a hurry, ride through Boston traffic on two wheels in the AM.

Tony,
My son may be leaving for Great lakes in about a month.
If he ends up on your ship, keep an eye out on him.

recoveringnky · 01-23-2006, 12:24 PM

Hi Tony, Kym here in Kentucky. I sure can understand where you are coming from. What helps me is that I just try to remember that everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether we like it or not. And speaking of opinions....just this saturday I was faced with a situation wherein I found myself defending AA. I was at The Hope Center (place for homeless men that provides food, shelter and also hosts AA/NA meetings) with a group I belong to called CMA (Christian Motorcyclist Association). We bring hats, gloves, blankets and bibles to them every year as part of our ministry work. Anyway, on the wall in the cafeteria (where we were set up) you could see the 12 steps and 12 traditions. Someone in our group made the comment and I'll try to quote it as best as I can remember....you see up there on the 12 steps where they have underlined God of our understanding? that's the problems with alcoholics anonymous, they are all going to hell for not believing in the God of our bible...

Well, I couldn't keep my mouth shut and proceeded to ask him if he would rather see people die from drugs and alcohol or believe in a God that they can understand and one that offers support for them? I said much more than that, but I can't remember it all. I was just offended by the closemindedness. I was smiling as I was talking to him and didn't say anything hurtful or negative, but just explained the best I could. He didn't comment after that. I was sure to give him a hug before we left and made sure that there were no hard feelings there. I just believe so much in AA and have seen the miracles that arise from this program. Another member of our group came up to me a little later and said that he wished churches were ran more like AA and were more open minded and loving. He is our group chaplain. Come to find out he is in the program as well! Our group president is in NA, I'm our secretary/treasurer and I'm in AA; our road captain is in AA and NA; and we have 3 other members in the program. Now that I think about it, there are probably more 12-steppers than "normies" in our group! It's just kinda cool that our chapter is run by a "bunch of drunks and addicts"!!

So, safe travels out there for you and don't let the opinions of others stop you from doing what you feel in your heart is the right thing to do. Reaching out to help another alcoholic/addict is what makes our program work. Thanks for reading this long share and God speed to you out there!

Keep on keepin' on!!

PS After I tell my sponsor about this, she'll have me do the resentment prayer for the next two weeks so I can let go of this!!! I'll see her tonight at our women's meeting and then I can tell her that I've already started praying!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!!

**best** · 01-23-2006, 01:05 PM

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Another member of our group came up to me a little later and said that he wished churches were ran more like AA and were more open minded and loving.

please not that.
Open minded no. Accepting of all that are seeking healing...Yes.
Loving...Yes as it is commanded.

AA is for recovery. Churches should be for finding God and learning how to heal from the illness of being a lost human.
Some churches are stuffy and unloving but most are not.
AA guides a person to a way out of a bad way of life.
Churches are hospitals for the sick in spirit and should be a place to learn the way past this life.

TonyB · 01-23-2006, 01:22 PM

Kym.
I know exactly what you are saying. I also have a lot of friend in the CMA and SOG. They are great people. But you are right, some of them are very closed minded. That’s my beef with organized religion. They are so hung up on their own BS they can’t see the woods through the trees! I had a friend of mine tell my old lady she was going to hell because she was a Protestant. She just smiled and said FU.
My God is a loving God and a forgiving God. He has to be to accept a sinner like me! I am the fallen angle returned to grace. I still don’t have any use for religion though. I think they are all wrong. Not wrong, but fallible. They were created by man or interpreted by man. Leaves way too many areas for error IMO.
I love to give my Christian friends a hard time about praying to the “White Jesus”. Boy does that get them fired up! But it’s all in good fun.
When I came to this program I was an Atheist/Agnostic. An old timer told me. “You pray to whatever will have you, if you want to live.” And I took that to heart. I have found God. And I am working to improve my “understanding” of Him. He has blessed me with many wonderful things. My friends of religion will just have to accept me and my beliefs in the way I accept them and their beliefs. Bottom line, if it works then work it…
Uncle Tony

recoveringnky · 01-23-2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by best

AA is for recovery. Churches should be for finding God and learning how to heal from the illness of being a lost human.
Some churches are stuffy and unloving but most are not.
AA guides a person to a way out of a bad way of life.
Churches are hospitals for the sick in spirit and should be a place to learn the way past this life.

I just love the way you put that!! I read it and my heart just smiled!!

Thanks!!!

Gooch · 01-23-2006, 04:24 PM

Best catches on quick..
He hates when they shoot at the messsenger

I took a communication class a long time ago and one of the things they taught us was the importance of developing a rapport with people before you try to broach serious communication.

The greatest 2 groups to help me get through my trial by fire periods of going to runs and swap meets after I got straight were CMA members and 5th chapter bros.

I will never be able to properly express my gratitude to those guys and gals for just being there and being friendly without ever giving me any lectures or trying to sign me up.

Gooch · 01-23-2006, 04:44 PM

There's this band I got hipped to a few months back .. Cross Canadian Ragweed. You will usually hear a little more southern rock, classic rock, blues or even metal playin in my garage or truck, but if these boys consider their selves C & W I can go along with it.

Anyhoo burned some mp3's onto a disk to pop in my new portable for serious troubleshooting at work and I got the chance to listen to the lyrice of this song real good the other day.

Quote:

One day Jesus, He's gonna come back,
And say: "Enough of this, you're getting' way off track.
"All the stealin', cheatin', lyin', all the little babies cryin'.
"Well, I'll tell you I can't take anymore.

"'Cause I died for your sins so long ago.
"It seems you forget with every day that rolls.
"I'm gonna stop it all right now,
"Before it gets way out of control."

Everybody gonna stand in line,
When it comes to the judgement time.
Pick the side of the fence that you're on,
When He comes to carry you home.

Now if you wanna kill and die for your God,
That's your prerogative, but I'll tell you that you're wrong.
I think God, He's an understanding man,
But I don't think that's part of his plan.

'Cause he wants us all to live in harmony;
Take care of one another when we need.
So if you want to rant and rave, murder and corrupt,
Stay away from the ones that I love.

An' everybody gonna stand in line,
When it comes to the judgement time.
Pick the side of the fence that you're on,
When He comes to carry you home.

Instrumental break.

I'm not pointin' fingers, don't get me wrong,
'Cause I drink and smoke and cuss and I carry on
Well, this is my opinion, that's all that it is,
To let you know that my devotion is His.

Well, I'll admit that I'm not a Saint:
I know what I can - I know what I can't do.
I can't judge your right from your wrong,
You are you and I am my own.

I don't read the Bible everyday.
I can't understand most of it anyway.
But I know where I'll go,
When my number is shown.

An' everybody gonna stand in line,
When it comes to the judgement time.
Pick the side of the fence that you're on,
When He comes to carry you home.

Carry you home.
Carry you home.
Carry you home.

I know quite a few folks that are at a place like this, and another bunch who were there not so long ago, and I expect there are a whole bunch of youngsters who are on their way to the same conclusion by running ragged on the same bumpy roads we know so well.

Gonna take a lot of patience with each other to keep setting the right example. But we know where to get the extra serenity when we need it right?

Dan · 01-23-2006, 04:49 PM

Bearshared that one today, bro

BillJ · 01-23-2006, 06:45 PM

My spiritual experience (what it was like, what happened, and what it's like now) in lyric form:

There's no good reason that I'm still alive
I've screwed up 'way too many times
I've made so many bad mistakes
I guess it's true
God looks out for drunks and fools

All those crazy nights in the streets of New Orleans
Hustlin' and hasslin' with the winos and the queens
Drinkin' Mad Dog down in Jackson Square
It must be true
God looks out for drunks and fools

He's kept me alive
I don't know why
Guess he's got somethin' better in mind
I try to do what's right
Say my prayers at night
And then hang on for the ride!

Now, I ain't no Christian, and I surely ain't no saint
I'm just a tramp who's tryin' to stay straight
I trust in God and do the best I can
I know it's true
God looks out for drunks and fools
'Cause I'm living proof
God looks out for drunks and fools

(c) 1987, 2006, Bill J. from Austin

recoveringnky · 01-24-2006, 05:53 AM

Bill, that's just awesome! Would love to hear it "live" sometime! Do you have that recorded? I would have to say that it pretty much sums it up for my ESH as well!

Gooch, what's the name of that group? I would like to download the MP3. I use my player a lot on my bike and especially when I have to shop at Walmart or something!!

It's so good to hear others say good things about CMA!! I love the work that we do as a group...one heart at a time! Also, funny thing that my women's meeting last night was on having patience with others outside the program who don't understand AA......hmmmmmmmmm was that odd or was that God?

Blessings to you all!!

Dan · 01-24-2006, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by recoveringnky

Gooch, what's the name of that group?

Cross Canadian Ragweed.
Gooch finds the most eclectic stuff

BillJ · 01-24-2006, 07:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by recoveringnky

Bill, that's just awesome! Would love to hear it "live" sometime! Do you have that recorded? I would have to say that it pretty much sums it up for my ESH as well!

Thank you! No, not recorded yet. One of the many "to do"s on my ever-growing list.

tramp · 01-26-2006, 04:55 PM

don't sweat it.
no one has ever liked what i'm doing either (cept maybe Gooch, who at least humors me)
my contention is they can all take a flieng f$#@ at a rolling doughnut.i live to p$%s them off. my bein clean really irks em. lol. that's an added benefit of sobriety. and hard as they try to make me responsible for their feelings i just don't buy any of it.....

01-21-2006, 08:27 AM	#1 (permalink)
TonyB Requires Adult Supervision Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sons Of God MC - Maine Chapter Posts: 340	Well, I guess not everyone digs what I'm doin' I posted my story on a different site. In hopes of reaching out to the A that still suffers. And I got this PM back from one of the members. I changed the names and places and didn't list the site. Just thought I would share with you all to see what your thought on it were. TonyB (Uncle Tony) Re: Tony, if I may... quote: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Someone wrote on 01-21-2006 09:33 AM: I know you're going through an extremely difficult time right now; I did the AA route back in '89 when ISC Someplace still supported the neighborhood STEP program. Right now I'm having to support my baby brother and his attempts to stay sober. It's been just over 2 years for him, and he 'thinks' he's worked all the steps to completion. Little does he know how much more work is needed..... You've done it before, so working your steps will be easier this time. But Tony, you need to work them more privately. Putting so much out there for public consumption can, unfortunately, lead one to think he's tackling a couple of steps in one. Trying to get and stay sober is a very personal act; trying to do it with cyberspace looking over your shoulder will only add to the difficulty. Good luck with this day. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MY REPLY: Interesting concept. I just don’t see it that way. You are right, the steps are personal. I haven’t posted anything about the steps. The 5th step only requires me to share with another human being. And that’s what I did. Don’t think anyone would want to air the 4th if you KWIM. As far as me having a difficult time right now. No, you totally got that one wrong. I’m living happy, joyous and free. No kidding. For the first time in my life, I no longer feel any of that anger, guilt, remorse, resentment or fear, because I have turned my life over and He takes care of me. The reason I posted what I have is two fold. 1. So I may give freely of what I have found. And 2. In the hope that I may be able to reach the alcoholic that still suffers. Because I know they are out there. I am in very close contact with my sponsor and WE thought it would be a good way for me to “pass it on” while I’m underway. (deployed) Though I can appreciate where you are coming from. I am in no way ashamed of being in recovery, there are 100 people on my ship that know it. And they have also witnessed the miracle of recovery. So, I’m just going to keep on keeping on. But thanks for the feedback. Tony B If you want, you could turn your bro on to my recovery site. I just started it and I could use some old timers. It’s http://www.uncletonyshouseofpain.com/recovery And BTW. There is no completion of the steps. It's a life long process. __________________ Live Free. Ride Free

01-21-2006, 08:40 AM	#2 (permalink)
Justme57 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Melbourne victoria Posts: 1,980 Blog Entries: 7	Good reply Tony HUGX Lee __________________

01-21-2006, 09:29 AM	#4 (permalink)
Justme57 Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Melbourne victoria Posts: 1,980 Blog Entries: 7	Aha ! Tony , it is good isn't it ? my son was in the navy too, Aussie navy that is Hey , do you like my new siggy ? pressy from dan HUGX Lee __________________

01-21-2006, 09:55 AM	#5 (permalink)
TonyB Requires Adult Supervision Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sons Of God MC - Maine Chapter Posts: 340	Lee, That is nice. Good stuff, no doubt I dig the sig too! __________________ Live Free. Ride Free

01-23-2006, 07:45 AM	#6 (permalink)
BillJ Casual Hero and Raconteur Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 1,123	Tony, I don't know what you shared at that other site, but what you've shared here seems spot-on in keeping with your stated intent - to fellowship with others in recovery, and be of service to those still suffering. All IMHO, of course! Also didn't know you were active duty, let alone on deployment. Vaya con Dios, mi amigo! Safe journey to you! __________________ Bill J. from Austin Evo FXR (AKA "The Banshee") Rigid rat shovel (AKA "The Bitch") Ratted-out Evo FLT (AKA "The Bagger") The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom, and I'm trying to get there as fast as I can!

01-23-2006, 11:34 AM	#7 (permalink)
TonyB Requires Adult Supervision Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sons Of God MC - Maine Chapter Posts: 340	Bill, I have posted a lot of stuff. My story and a bunch of other thing. I'm very open about my recovery. I feel that I expended so much effort to cover up my disease that it's good for me to be open about my recovery. It's not like I did my 4th step on line... Wow... What a thought that is! But I'm not afraid to talk to anyone about what it was like, what happend and what I'm like now. It's all apart of the experiance, strength and hope. My intent was to reach out to those that still suffer and may not be aware of sites like this one, or of places like AA. I have received a lot of positive feedback from hundreds of people and then this gal dropped this on me. Claiming that she "used" to be in the program. The whole exchange with her reminded me of something I heard at a meeting right before I left. "TAKE MY ADVICE, I'M NOT USING IT." My wife was bent about the whole thing and was like. "She has no program and now she wants to run yours too." I guess it takes all kinds to make the world go round. Uncle Tony __________________ Live Free. Ride Free

01-23-2006, 12:24 PM	#9 (permalink)
recoveringnky Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The beautiful mountains of Kentucky Posts: 604	Hi Tony, Kym here in Kentucky. I sure can understand where you are coming from. What helps me is that I just try to remember that everyone is entitled to their opinion, whether we like it or not. And speaking of opinions....just this saturday I was faced with a situation wherein I found myself defending AA. I was at The Hope Center (place for homeless men that provides food, shelter and also hosts AA/NA meetings) with a group I belong to called CMA (Christian Motorcyclist Association). We bring hats, gloves, blankets and bibles to them every year as part of our ministry work. Anyway, on the wall in the cafeteria (where we were set up) you could see the 12 steps and 12 traditions. Someone in our group made the comment and I'll try to quote it as best as I can remember....you see up there on the 12 steps where they have underlined God of our understanding? that's the problems with alcoholics anonymous, they are all going to hell for not believing in the God of our bible... Well, I couldn't keep my mouth shut and proceeded to ask him if he would rather see people die from drugs and alcohol or believe in a God that they can understand and one that offers support for them? I said much more than that, but I can't remember it all. I was just offended by the closemindedness. I was smiling as I was talking to him and didn't say anything hurtful or negative, but just explained the best I could. He didn't comment after that. I was sure to give him a hug before we left and made sure that there were no hard feelings there. I just believe so much in AA and have seen the miracles that arise from this program. Another member of our group came up to me a little later and said that he wished churches were ran more like AA and were more open minded and loving. He is our group chaplain. Come to find out he is in the program as well! Our group president is in NA, I'm our secretary/treasurer and I'm in AA; our road captain is in AA and NA; and we have 3 other members in the program. Now that I think about it, there are probably more 12-steppers than "normies" in our group! It's just kinda cool that our chapter is run by a "bunch of drunks and addicts"!! So, safe travels out there for you and don't let the opinions of others stop you from doing what you feel in your heart is the right thing to do. Reaching out to help another alcoholic/addict is what makes our program work. Thanks for reading this long share and God speed to you out there! Keep on keepin' on!! PS After I tell my sponsor about this, she'll have me do the resentment prayer for the next two weeks so I can let go of this!!! I'll see her tonight at our women's meeting and then I can tell her that I've already started praying!!!! LOL!!!!!!!!! __________________ Kym P. Keeping it Simple Life is too short for drama & petty things, so kiss slowly, laugh insanely, love truly and forgive quickly.

01-23-2006, 01:22 PM	#11 (permalink)
TonyB Requires Adult Supervision Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Sons Of God MC - Maine Chapter Posts: 340	Kym. I know exactly what you are saying. I also have a lot of friend in the CMA and SOG. They are great people. But you are right, some of them are very closed minded. That’s my beef with organized religion. They are so hung up on their own BS they can’t see the woods through the trees! I had a friend of mine tell my old lady she was going to hell because she was a Protestant. She just smiled and said FU. My God is a loving God and a forgiving God. He has to be to accept a sinner like me! I am the fallen angle returned to grace. I still don’t have any use for religion though. I think they are all wrong. Not wrong, but fallible. They were created by man or interpreted by man. Leaves way too many areas for error IMO. I love to give my Christian friends a hard time about praying to the “White Jesus”. Boy does that get them fired up! But it’s all in good fun. When I came to this program I was an Atheist/Agnostic. An old timer told me. “You pray to whatever will have you, if you want to live.” And I took that to heart. I have found God. And I am working to improve my “understanding” of Him. He has blessed me with many wonderful things. My friends of religion will just have to accept me and my beliefs in the way I accept them and their beliefs. Bottom line, if it works then work it… Uncle Tony __________________ Live Free. Ride Free

01-23-2006, 04:24 PM	#13 (permalink)
Gooch Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: out there... Posts: 2,668	Best catches on quick.. He hates when they shoot at the messsenger I took a communication class a long time ago and one of the things they taught us was the importance of developing a rapport with people before you try to broach serious communication. The greatest 2 groups to help me get through my trial by fire periods of going to runs and swap meets after I got straight were CMA members and 5th chapter bros. I will never be able to properly express my gratitude to those guys and gals for just being there and being friendly without ever giving me any lectures or trying to sign me up.

01-23-2006, 04:49 PM	#15 (permalink)
Dan Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 8,753	Bearshared that one today, bro

01-23-2006, 06:45 PM	#16 (permalink)
BillJ Casual Hero and Raconteur Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 1,123	My spiritual experience (what it was like, what happened, and what it's like now) in lyric form: There's no good reason that I'm still alive I've screwed up 'way too many times I've made so many bad mistakes I guess it's true God looks out for drunks and fools All those crazy nights in the streets of New Orleans Hustlin' and hasslin' with the winos and the queens Drinkin' Mad Dog down in Jackson Square It must be true God looks out for drunks and fools He's kept me alive I don't know why Guess he's got somethin' better in mind I try to do what's right Say my prayers at night And then hang on for the ride! Now, I ain't no Christian, and I surely ain't no saint I'm just a tramp who's tryin' to stay straight I trust in God and do the best I can I know it's true God looks out for drunks and fools 'Cause I'm living proof God looks out for drunks and fools (c) 1987, 2006, Bill J. from Austin __________________ Bill J. from Austin Evo FXR (AKA "The Banshee") Rigid rat shovel (AKA "The Bitch") Ratted-out Evo FLT (AKA "The Bagger") The road of excess leads to the palace of wisdom, and I'm trying to get there as fast as I can!

01-24-2006, 05:53 AM	#17 (permalink)
recoveringnky Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The beautiful mountains of Kentucky Posts: 604	Bill, that's just awesome! Would love to hear it "live" sometime! Do you have that recorded? I would have to say that it pretty much sums it up for my ESH as well! Gooch, what's the name of that group? I would like to download the MP3. I use my player a lot on my bike and especially when I have to shop at Walmart or something!! It's so good to hear others say good things about CMA!! I love the work that we do as a group...one heart at a time! Also, funny thing that my women's meeting last night was on having patience with others outside the program who don't understand AA......hmmmmmmmmm was that odd or was that God? Blessings to you all!! __________________ Kym P. Keeping it Simple Life is too short for drama & petty things, so kiss slowly, laugh insanely, love truly and forgive quickly.

01-26-2006, 04:55 PM	#20 (permalink)
tramp Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: my own little world Posts: 257	don't sweat it. no one has ever liked what i'm doing either (cept maybe Gooch, who at least humors me) my contention is they can all take a flieng f$#@ at a rolling doughnut.i live to p$%s them off. my bein clean really irks em. lol. that's an added benefit of sobriety. and hard as they try to make me responsible for their feelings i just don't buy any of it.....