Need your input please

[phoenix]

Just looking for some thoughts on what people would like to see more of in here.It's your forum so let me know.Ideas are welcome.

Thanks!

phoenix

[Gooch]

there was no option for


e) all of the above.

[phoenix]

Thanks Gooch...I had a feeling something was missing :LMAO

phoenix

[fuster]

I think mostly plain talk and whatnot, but many want the daily meditation stuff. I get mine from other sources and have for the past ten years, so I don't need it here. I would be happy to share which of it works for me, but I don't use on line subscriptions too much for that type of stuff (a lot of it is available, though, for those who want it).

[Gooch]

Post away Fuster. I get a few mailed to me every day also. but I never know what I'm missing until I see it.

Big swap meet this afternoon up near Buffalo, NY. Hope I can get some of my projects done in time to make the trip up.

I put a starter in my Chevy 4wd yesterday and dinged a tranny cooler line so today I have to get that fixed. Its still a little chilly here for me to drive more than 100 miles form home with no heater.

[HardHead]

E- lmao

[fuster]

I finished my winter motorcycle projects, got the motor back in the big bike (top end race work on one motor, the other was more minor stuff), but now I have learned I have a complete or near complete tear of my supraspinatus in my left shoulder (otherwise known as a "rotator cuff tear"). So I can ride, but not for a long time as in riding to Texas to see my most favorite cousin Diane. Shucks. Have to put off the surgery until fall if I can stand the pain until then. No narcotic pain pills, just Celebrex and ice. So if the pain gets too bad I will have to do the surgery, which will blow the whole summer of riding.

Gooch, I will be busy and not on this board too much for a few weeks, but will try to get that daily devotions info onto this board in the future. Sorry I do not have it here now, but I will post it. Work is busy right now and I am in the middle of selling my old house (yay!!!!).

[best]

Phoenix

1 and 3 looks good.
How about a listing for free wrench services *LOL*
As I read the Gooch post about a nicked trany line, I understand why I still have not fixed my spedo cable. I took a look at what it would take to replace the cable. A $23 part and it would take a full day to replace it. Kawasaki makes bikes that are very much wrench friendly. Friendly for making the wrench rich *LOL* I would need remove fuel tank, covers, and maybe the fender and side rails so I could snake the new cable into place. A warm day after I empty out half the shed of season items and then rain so I won't be riding anyways will be when I change that cable I think.

[Gooch]

I was gonna use my battery booster to throw some extra juice in the dyna the other day. I figured I would just ground to teh frame and grab the starter lug for the positive. Nope no room under the battery box, so i pulled the seat to see if I could get the battery right out. Not yet, First you have to remove the chrome cover and to do that ya need to loosen the battery tray bolts to lower it so the covers will clear. Once the covers were off I figured I might as well pull the battery and put in on the real charger over in the garage. ( No electric up in teh old barn) I got the ground wire off but theres not much room to get to the positive lug unless you swing the battery out and hold it up in one hand while you unscrew the fastener.


there seems to be an inversely proportional relationship between technology and simplicity happening here.

[Magichappens]

A book club might be something to add. Books that inspire bikers? My top pick is Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Holds the interest and slips a lesson or two in while your not looking.

[Chy]

Since you brought it up" God on a Harley" was awesome! Talk about warm fuzzies!

[tramp]

must be my browser but i cant see the nekkid wimen and scooter pics selection.....

[Gooch]

scooter pics huh?

that we can do .. this one needs a caption..

[soberharleylady]

i go for E........................ and what about naked pics of men and bikes

[Alice Wonder]

silly gooch- you need some wheels for that scooter then you can ride it instead of pulling it!

[BillJ]

Originally Posted by Magichappens

A book club might be something to add. Books that inspire bikers? My top pick is Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance. Holds the interest and slips a lesson or two in while your not looking.

I collect motorcycling-related books - everything from old tech manuals and "true crime" to photo collections and travelogues. Not too much "inspirational" stuff out there aimed directly at the biker crowd, but there are definitely some good books out there! Like Zen and..., a few even slip in a lesson or two.

[Gooch]

Originally Posted by soberharleylady

i go for E........................ and what about naked pics of men and bikes

The management wishes not to infringe upon the "raw in recovery" sites that are allready out there .. lol

[Gooch]

Originally Posted by Alice Wonder

silly gooch- you need some wheels for that scooter then you can ride it instead of pulling it!

thats one of my riding buds .. we go back about 28 years.

[phoenix]

I kind of wish the post had got this kind of feedback back when I originally posted it...but oh well.Chy actually deleted it for me before the crash,but now it's reincarnated and has a new life.I think the pics(not nekkid) and books sound good

phoenix

[HardHead]

Ahh Man' The parade got Rained out. lol
Gooch through a 3/0 in and park it in the living room.

[Magichappens]

Better late than never phoenix! Magic

[BillJ]

Originally Posted by phoenix

I think the pics(not nekkid) and books sound good

Well, I could try to come up with some "not nekkid" pics...

I will try to assemble a list of books from my collection. For the time being, here's one (about outlaw clubs) that I posted to another site:

OUTLAW CLUBS

Hell's Angels by Hunter S. Thompson - the original outlaw biker book, later disparaged by Angels President Sonny Barger, et al, as coke-fueled fiction.

Freewheelin' Frank: Secretary of the Angels by Frank Reynolds, as told to Michael McClure - if you read Tom Wolfe's Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test you know who Freewheelin' Frank is. He apparently cranked up on speed and rapped into a tape-recorder operated by San Francisco beat poet Michael McClure.

Hell's Angels: Three Can Keep A Secret If Two Are Dead by Yves Lavigne - Lavigne is a Canadian journalist and self-styled "expert" on outlaw bikers. He obviously has a personal vendetta against bikers, as will be evident if you read any of his HA books.

Hell's Angels: Into The Abyss by Yves Lavigne - a snitch infiltrates the HA, and Lavigne naturally thinks the schmuck's a hero.

Hell's Angels At War by Yves Lavigne - the author's scattershot newsreel-paced recitation of HA misdeeds quickly gets boring and distracting.

Hell's Angel by Ralph "Sonny" Barger, Jr. with Keith and Kent Zimmerman - the best-known Angel of 'em all writes his memoirs. Not a bad read, and he reveals enough about himself and the club to make you think he just might be telling the truth. For those in recovery, his revelations about his own addiction will be of interest.

Ridin' High, Livin' Free by Ralph "Sonny" Barger, Jr. with Keith and Kent Zimmerman - war stories and tall tales, just like the ones we hear (and tell) while hanging out at our favorite watering hole. A let-down, after Hell's Angel, but there are some good stories in it.

Street Justice by Chuck Zito with Joe Layden - Not a bad read, but more of a vanity piece for the author than anything else. Lots of name-dropping. The photo section is stuffed with pictures of Zito posing with various celebrities. By contrast, there's only one of him wearing his colors, a couple of him standing next to flashy bikes that we assume are his, and only one (a group photo) of him with other HAs.

Bikers by Maz Harris - a British HA who's also an academian writes a history of the biker movement, with a decidely British slant. Interesting read. Good photos, too.

Fallen Angel by Barry Mayson with Tony Marco - good ol' Southern boy turns outlaw, pisses off his club brothers, goes on the lam and finds Jesus. Last seen operating a motorcycle ministry in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, and trusting God to protect him from his former brothers. I actually met Barry once, and he seemed like a nice enough guy. The book's a good read, too.

Be Not Content: A Subterranean Journal by William J. Craddock - this is an odd item. Published in 1970, long out of print, but there are a couple of good chapters about the author's life as an outlaw biker, before he got turned on and drifted into the acid-soaked hippie scene in California. I’d love to know what happened to him.

Sleeping Where I Fall by Peter Coyote - the actor talks about his life as a biker, commune-dweller and activist. Good tales about early-day HAs he ran and partied with, and a great read throughout.

The Rebels: A Brotherhood Of Outlaw Bikers by Daniel R. Wolf - university Anthropology professor hooks up with Canadian bike club, and writes a fairly readable dissertation about outlaw life. What is it about Canucks and their bikers, eh?

The Brotherhoods by Arthur Veno - another scholarly fellow - an Australian, this time - hangs with the outlaws, and acts as go-between in confrontations between the clubs and the cops.

Holy Rider by Warren LaCoste - priest joins a biker gang, rides and rumbles with 'em, narrowly escapes with his life... Sound familiar?

Chain Of Evidence by Michael Detroit - a woman cop infiltrates the HA by posing as a biker bitch, and busts their meth-making operation in So Cal.

Born To Be Wild by Barry Bowe - follows the case of a Warlock member from PA, who was convicted of murdering a young woman in the early '70s.

Conspiracy Of Brothers by Nick Lowe - outlaws railroaded by corrupt or inept cops. Steve Earle was inspired to write the song "Justice In Ontario" about this case.

Without A Trace: The Disappearance Of Amy Billig - A Mother's Search For Justice by Greg Aunapu and Susan Billig - a beautiful free-spirited teenager vanishes from a small Florida town during Bike Week, and her mother spends twenty-five years (!) trying to track her down.

Bike! Motorcycles And The People Who Ride Them by Thierry Sagnier - a brief overview of biker history, with some great photos of club action from Hollister to the early '70s. Also about motorcycling in general, including how-to tips for novices, etcetera.

Against The Wind by J.F. Freedman - a fictionalized account of a true miscarriage of justice. Four patch-holders are thrown in jail for a murder they didn't commit, and a brave (but deeply flawed) attorney takes up their cause. Except for a reference to a "custom '66 knucklehead," Freedman does a pretty good job here. His other books, though not biker-related, are good courtroom dramas.

PHOTO ESSAYS

The Bikeriders by Danny Lyon - first published in 1968, this collection of photos by a member of the nascent Chicago Outlaws M/C (yes, the Outlaws!) was, with Thompson's Hell's Angels, the nation's first real glimpse into the world of outlaw bikers. Excellent technique combined with compelling subjects. I found my first edition hardcover for $2.98 in a used-book store. I've seen the same item listed for over $400 (!) on rare-book internet sites, and a 1995 Japanese reprint was drawing over $100 a pop!
However, The Bikeriders was reissued in 2003, by Chronicle Books. There are all the original text (great interviews with bikers, including motorcycle racers and members of the Outlaws, and the kind of war stories we tell around campfires) and photographs (some now in color, rather than b&w), plus an additional 29 photos that weren't in the original book. There's also a new forward to the 2003 edition - an interesting "look back" by the photographer, at his work and the changing nature of his old club.

One Percent by Michael H. Upright - the photographer attempts to remake Lyon's The Bikeriders from a late-'90s perspective but, perhaps because he's not a biker himself, Upright is not as effective as Lyon was. Still, there are some good shots here - mostly the small-group shots highlighted by the opening text.

Straightening Out The Corners by Phillipe Vermes - studio-quality portraits of bikers and their bikes, taken at a roadside, open-air "studio" set up at Sturgis in '87 and '88. I actually know two of his subjects, but they're all great photos.

Road Pirates by Marc Hauser, with text by Judy Robb - mostly tight shots of bikers' faces against studio back-drops. A few shots of riders with their bikes. Lots of tattoos and leather, and brief blurbs about the subjects. I've gotta say that Robb's text makes sense of Hauser's otherwise-too-familiar portraits.

Rebels With A Cause: We Ride The Harley by Gail DeMarco - you meet the nicest (and some of the prettiest!) people on a Harley, at least in Gail DeMarco's world. Lots of celebrities and business people, a few cops and firefighters, a couple of HAs to "keep it real," and most of 'em (male and female alike) smooth and shiny enough to be catalog models. Excellent photos, though, and the blurbs help the viewer relate to the subjects.

Bikers by Andreas Endemann - a large-format collection of hand-colored black-and-white photos from the British bike scene. A biker himself, Endemann has captured choppers, classic Triumphs, street bikers and Hells Angels, and doused that world with archaic pastels, brilliant jewel-tones and oddly-highlighted details.

Made In USA by Dennis Stock - a “greatest hits� compilation from the photographer’s published works, including his well-known shots of actor James Dean, photos of jazz legends and hippies, and a number of pictures of early-Seventies-era bikers, including the nascent Colorado-based Sons of Silence M/C.

Sturgis by Michael Lichter - a well-produced collection of Rally photos by a long-time (and personal favorite) Easyriders Magazine contributor.

NOT CLUB-RELATED, BUT RECOMMENDED

Outlaw Machine by Brock Yates

The Perfect Vehicle by Melissa Holbrook Pierson

Rebuilding The Indian by Fred Haefele

Well Made In America by Peter C. Reid

A Cure For Gravity by Arthur Rosenfeld

Storm by Allen Noren

[JCZ]

Originally Posted by BillJ

Well, I could try to come up with some "not nekkid" pics...

I will try to assemble a list of books from my collection. For the time being, here's one (about outlaw clubs) that I posted to another site:

OUTLAW CLUBS

Hell's Angels by Hunter S. Thompson - the original outlaw biker book, later disparaged by Angels President Sonny Barger, et al, as coke-fueled fiction.

Freewheelin' Frank: Secretary of the Angels by Frank Reynolds, as told to Michael McClure - if you read Tom Wolfe's Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test you know who Freewheelin' Frank is. He apparently cranked up on speed and rapped into a tape-recorder operated by San Francisco beat poet Michael McClure.

Hell's Angels: Three Can Keep A Secret If Two Are Dead by Yves Lavigne - Lavigne is a Canadian journalist and self-styled "expert" on outlaw bikers. He obviously has a personal vendetta against bikers, as will be evident if you read any of his HA books.

Hell's Angels: Into The Abyss by Yves Lavigne - a snitch infiltrates the HA, and Lavigne naturally thinks the schmuck's a hero.

Hell's Angels At War by Yves Lavigne - the author's scattershot newsreel-paced recitation of HA misdeeds quickly gets boring and distracting.

Hell's Angel by Ralph "Sonny" Barger, Jr. with Keith and Kent Zimmerman - the best-known Angel of 'em all writes his memoirs. Not a bad read, and he reveals enough about himself and the club to make you think he just might be telling the truth. For those in recovery, his revelations about his own addiction will be of interest.

Ridin' High, Livin' Free by Ralph "Sonny" Barger, Jr. with Keith and Kent Zimmerman - war stories and tall tales, just like the ones we hear (and tell) while hanging out at our favorite watering hole. A let-down, after Hell's Angel, but there are some good stories in it.

Street Justice by Chuck Zito with Joe Layden - Not a bad read, but more of a vanity piece for the author than anything else. Lots of name-dropping. The photo section is stuffed with pictures of Zito posing with various celebrities. By contrast, there's only one of him wearing his colors, a couple of him standing next to flashy bikes that we assume are his, and only one (a group photo) of him with other HAs.

Bikers by Maz Harris - a British HA who's also an academian writes a history of the biker movement, with a decidely British slant. Interesting read. Good photos, too.

Fallen Angel by Barry Mayson with Tony Marco - good ol' Southern boy turns outlaw, pisses off his club brothers, goes on the lam and finds Jesus. Last seen operating a motorcycle ministry in the Dallas/Fort Worth area, and trusting God to protect him from his former brothers. I actually met Barry once, and he seemed like a nice enough guy. The book's a good read, too.

Be Not Content: A Subterranean Journal by William J. Craddock - this is an odd item. Published in 1970, long out of print, but there are a couple of good chapters about the author's life as an outlaw biker, before he got turned on and drifted into the acid-soaked hippie scene in California. I’d love to know what happened to him.

Sleeping Where I Fall by Peter Coyote - the actor talks about his life as a biker, commune-dweller and activist. Good tales about early-day HAs he ran and partied with, and a great read throughout.

The Rebels: A Brotherhood Of Outlaw Bikers by Daniel R. Wolf - university Anthropology professor hooks up with Canadian bike club, and writes a fairly readable dissertation about outlaw life. What is it about Canucks and their bikers, eh?

The Brotherhoods by Arthur Veno - another scholarly fellow - an Australian, this time - hangs with the outlaws, and acts as go-between in confrontations between the clubs and the cops.

Holy Rider by Warren LaCoste - priest joins a biker gang, rides and rumbles with 'em, narrowly escapes with his life... Sound familiar?

Chain Of Evidence by Michael Detroit - a woman cop infiltrates the HA by posing as a biker bitch, and busts their meth-making operation in So Cal.

Born To Be Wild by Barry Bowe - follows the case of a Warlock member from PA, who was convicted of murdering a young woman in the early '70s.

Conspiracy Of Brothers by Nick Lowe - outlaws railroaded by corrupt or inept cops. Steve Earle was inspired to write the song "Justice In Ontario" about this case.

Without A Trace: The Disappearance Of Amy Billig - A Mother's Search For Justice by Greg Aunapu and Susan Billig - a beautiful free-spirited teenager vanishes from a small Florida town during Bike Week, and her mother spends twenty-five years (!) trying to track her down.

Bike! Motorcycles And The People Who Ride Them by Thierry Sagnier - a brief overview of biker history, with some great photos of club action from Hollister to the early '70s. Also about motorcycling in general, including how-to tips for novices, etcetera.

Against The Wind by J.F. Freedman - a fictionalized account of a true miscarriage of justice. Four patch-holders are thrown in jail for a murder they didn't commit, and a brave (but deeply flawed) attorney takes up their cause. Except for a reference to a "custom '66 knucklehead," Freedman does a pretty good job here. His other books, though not biker-related, are good courtroom dramas.

PHOTO ESSAYS

The Bikeriders by Danny Lyon - first published in 1968, this collection of photos by a member of the nascent Chicago Outlaws M/C (yes, the Outlaws!) was, with Thompson's Hell's Angels, the nation's first real glimpse into the world of outlaw bikers. Excellent technique combined with compelling subjects. I found my first edition hardcover for $2.98 in a used-book store. I've seen the same item listed for over $400 (!) on rare-book internet sites, and a 1995 Japanese reprint was drawing over $100 a pop!
However, The Bikeriders was reissued in 2003, by Chronicle Books. There are all the original text (great interviews with bikers, including motorcycle racers and members of the Outlaws, and the kind of war stories we tell around campfires) and photographs (some now in color, rather than b&w), plus an additional 29 photos that weren't in the original book. There's also a new forward to the 2003 edition - an interesting "look back" by the photographer, at his work and the changing nature of his old club.

One Percent by Michael H. Upright - the photographer attempts to remake Lyon's The Bikeriders from a late-'90s perspective but, perhaps because he's not a biker himself, Upright is not as effective as Lyon was. Still, there are some good shots here - mostly the small-group shots highlighted by the opening text.

Straightening Out The Corners by Phillipe Vermes - studio-quality portraits of bikers and their bikes, taken at a roadside, open-air "studio" set up at Sturgis in '87 and '88. I actually know two of his subjects, but they're all great photos.

Road Pirates by Marc Hauser, with text by Judy Robb - mostly tight shots of bikers' faces against studio back-drops. A few shots of riders with their bikes. Lots of tattoos and leather, and brief blurbs about the subjects. I've gotta say that Robb's text makes sense of Hauser's otherwise-too-familiar portraits.

Rebels With A Cause: We Ride The Harley by Gail DeMarco - you meet the nicest (and some of the prettiest!) people on a Harley, at least in Gail DeMarco's world. Lots of celebrities and business people, a few cops and firefighters, a couple of HAs to "keep it real," and most of 'em (male and female alike) smooth and shiny enough to be catalog models. Excellent photos, though, and the blurbs help the viewer relate to the subjects.

Bikers by Andreas Endemann - a large-format collection of hand-colored black-and-white photos from the British bike scene. A biker himself, Endemann has captured choppers, classic Triumphs, street bikers and Hells Angels, and doused that world with archaic pastels, brilliant jewel-tones and oddly-highlighted details.

Made In USA by Dennis Stock - a “greatest hits� compilation from the photographer’s published works, including his well-known shots of actor James Dean, photos of jazz legends and hippies, and a number of pictures of early-Seventies-era bikers, including the nascent Colorado-based Sons of Silence M/C.

Sturgis by Michael Lichter - a well-produced collection of Rally photos by a long-time (and personal favorite) Easyriders Magazine contributor.

NOT CLUB-RELATED, BUT RECOMMENDED

Outlaw Machine by Brock Yates

The Perfect Vehicle by Melissa Holbrook Pierson

Rebuilding The Indian by Fred Haefele

Well Made In America by Peter C. Reid

A Cure For Gravity by Arthur Rosenfeld

Storm by Allen Noren

I'll take that as a complament......after spending most of my adult life in the joint (now have 24 years recovery, but that was in 94), I guess I cleaned up kind of nice. I'm in the book, along with my ex-wife. We had the two red and white bikes and my name is J.C.

I can tell you that Gail personally found each of her subjects for that book and they are all real people. Met nearly all of them at the book signing party in LA.

I can also tell you that on the pages that I'm on, about two of those sentences came out of my mouth (or my ex wife's).....the rest of it was fabricated to sell the book. Some of it gagged me, some of it made me laugh.

Ran across this doing a google search for the book. Saw it's a recovery related forum (there are a number of the people in that book that are clean and sober) decided to jump in here.