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| HERE I AM | let me make this clear
it looks like some folks misunderstood my post about the 12 steps with out god, geesh, let me start by saying those 12 steps as i posted is showing what would be left if we didnt have a higher power I for one do have a higher power and it is jesus christ because because he died on the cross and his blood washed away our sins and through him we shall enter the gates of haven ,, geesh i hate having to explain myself never have i posted them befor and anybody had any trouble figuring it out
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| Have we seen a person fail... Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: S.S. Marie, Ont. Can.
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| is God really needed in the 12 steps???? input wanted
Robert: No sweat Bro, I posted my response to your question is all....
__________________ Rarly 2002 FLHTC "Annie" " as we let our own light shine, we unconciously give other people permission to do the same"... Nelson Mandela |
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| Don't get undies in a bunch Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: South Shore MA
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I stopped the intake of alcohol at a point in my life that I thought I was an atheist. I know that a person can stop drinking by a power greater then self that isn't seen as God to the person at the time. (looking back I see it was His hand all along though) As for finding growth and becoming a productive member of society(going past the first three steps) in my life, it took me accepting God as I know Him (Jesus). Different things work for different people when it comes to stopping the intake of alcohol. Beyond the stopping...well we each find our own path and grow from there. The path I am on has gained me much growth. Each person needs to find that path themself. I can only guide them there if they ask.
__________________ * I asked God to spare me pain. God said "No", Suffering draws you apart from worldly cares and brings you closer to me. ![]() Recovery Related Acronym B. E. S. T. = Been Enjoying Sobriety Today? |
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| Member | Lion...
Not everybody is gonna understand you...and THAT'S okay. Let people think fer themselves...some like everything spelled out for 'em...and you'll spend all day explainin yerself...if you want to do THAT...cool...but don't sweat it. Trust me...some just like to come out "swingin on the yard" (prison talk) and unless ya wanna play that way....don't. I have much respect for you....and THAT'S better than being feared. Love YA! |
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| FreeSpirit | Quote:
some are slower to grasp and some are faster Remember we didn't become Addicts over night and we sure ain't going to get heal over night some of us drank for years and some of us did Drugs for years and it left with bad judgment Impair and some of us we have to read over the board over and over Patience is a virtue,& for the miss conception God Bless you Bro But we are all made a like to his Image Remember that. !Is God need it in the twelve step??? any one could of misinterpret it wrong we ain't no Einsteins you know we are a self group of Recovering Addicts trying to survive to stay Alive and Clean Just For Today, | |
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| FreeSpirit | Quote:
I all ways said, It's easy to put Down the drugs and drinking But what makes us fall back into the same Pattern of Insanity is our short comings and Stinking thinking and please by all means necessary don't take it to the Heart Brother | |
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| FreeSpirit | Quote:
about the scooter tramps are you referring to me or It's that your street slant or are you talking or replying back to someone remember when you drink for so many years and you come to sobriety It's going to be hard to grasp at certain concepts or topic so I ask again was that refer to me | |
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| Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mountain grove, missouri
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| I don't think it was directed toward you..........It was directed toward me and some of the others, and I am honored..........thanks fulldresser, you're the best!! Toad...........grateful to be fully clothed and in my right mind.
__________________ Tet Vet PGR member 2007 Road King Classic 96 C.I. Six-speed Vivid black God......... Let You........... be enough for me. |
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| Fulldresser4 Join Date: May 2007 Location: Mid-Michigan
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Butterfly, I am sooo sorry, I absolutely was NOT referring to you. In my world, scooter tramps is just kind of a term of endearment for bikers, men or women. And I am glad that you asked (thanks Toad) instead of keeping it inside and resenting me. That you posted this reminds me that I need to have the courage you have in asking.
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| Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: mountain grove, missouri
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Over and over as I trudge the Road of Happy Destiny I keep hearing of a simple prayer that those who become broken and humbled by the disease of alcoholism and addiction say. A simple three words that have more meaning than repeating from memory the 23rd Psalm. Those words are "God help me." My sponsor asked that prayer one Easter morning 49 years ago, and has not had a drink or any mind or mood altering chemical since. I think God understand our slogan "Keep It Simple." Share this with me: "Only a block or so from the pier, I saw a man approaching from the opposite direction, with his head down, walking into the rain. When he came to me, he stopped and smiled, and I recognized him as a priest I knew from home. I told him I was very ill. He then sat on a bench with me in the rain and assured me that in time all my troubles would pass and the day would come when I would understand them. He said I was not to do anything foolish, but ask God’s help, and somehow everything would work out." © 1973 AAWS, Inc.; Came to Believe, 30th printing 2004, pg. 71 Today God continues to do for me what I could not do for myself. toad...........grateful to be fully clothed and in my right mind
__________________ Tet Vet PGR member 2007 Road King Classic 96 C.I. Six-speed Vivid black God......... Let You........... be enough for me. |
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| FreeSpirit | I don't own a Motorcycle just a Bike cycle But since I was a little girl I had a passion for Motorcycles of every kind, but the one I like the most is the Hartley Davidson Bikes and the 250,R,M Dirt Bike It's funny cause I had a dream 2 nights ago that me and some other Girl we were riding Dirt Bikes and this Big Dude was chasing us to on a Bike and I took a unusual turn but she didn't she kept going and the turn I did was a Down Hill but the road was Icy. weird Hu? Well my Son Adam He is only 16 years old and he said that when he gets old he wants a Motorcycle He has a thing with Speed Lord Jesus Help me cause when It comes to me It's weird I wouldn't mine Owning one But when it comes to your offspring The Mother Panic Button,Go's off l.o.l My Brother owns a Kawasaki- I Got into a small accident writing in the Back of My Friend motorcycle, the turn he did was to quick and we fealt side ways and the Muffler of the Bike Burn my Calf. Well that's it for Now Oh Before I Go Thnx to toad,& FullDresser4 for a Full Intruduction on the Male Bounding I'm the only child from my Dad But my Mom Had more After she Divorce my Dad so I was race with 11 males- and 4 male Brothers two off them pass away may they R.I.P. and I leave you Guy's with this This is the 250 RM Hardley Davidson |
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