let me make this clear

[lionsstripe]

it looks like some folks misunderstood my post about the 12 steps with out god, geesh, let me start by saying those 12 steps as i posted is showing what would be left if we didnt have a higher power I for one do have a higher power and it is jesus christ because because he died on the cross and his blood washed away our sins and through him we shall enter the gates of haven ,, geesh i hate having to explain myself never have i posted them befor and anybody had any trouble figuring it out

[Rarly Harley]

Robert: No sweat Bro, I posted my response to your question is all....

[best]

I stopped the intake of alcohol at a point in my life that I thought I was an atheist. I know that a person can stop drinking by a power greater then self that isn't seen as God to the person at the time. (looking back I see it was His hand all along though)
As for finding growth and becoming a productive member of society(going past the first three steps) in my life, it took me accepting God as I know Him (Jesus).
Different things work for different people when it comes to stopping the intake of alcohol. Beyond the stopping...well we each find our own path and grow from there. The path I am on has gained me much growth. Each person needs to find that path themself. I can only guide them there if they ask.

[lilbit]

Not everybody is gonna understand you...and THAT'S okay. Let people think fer themselves...some like everything spelled out for 'em...and you'll spend all day explainin yerself...if you want to do THAT...cool...but don't sweat it. Trust me...some just like to come out "swingin on the yard" (prison talk) and unless ya wanna play that way....don't. I have much respect for you....and THAT'S better than being feared.
Love YA!

[BUTTERFLY-7]

Originally Posted by lionsstripe

it looks like some folks misunderstood my post about the 12 steps with out god, geesh, let me start by saying those 12 steps as i posted is showing what would be left if we didnt have a higher power I for one do have a higher power and it is jesus christ because because he died on the cross and his blood washed away our sins and through him we shall enter the gates of haven ,, geesh i hate having to explain myself never have i posted them befor and anybody had any trouble figuring it out

No Need to Panic we are all in this Boat together
some are slower to grasp and some are faster
Remember we didn't become Addicts over night
and we sure ain't going to get heal over night
some of us drank for years and some of us did Drugs for years and it left with bad judgment Impair and some of us
we have to read over the board over and over
Patience is a virtue,& for the miss conception
God Bless you Bro
But we are all made a like to his Image Remember that.
!Is God need it in the twelve step???
any one could of misinterpret it wrong we ain't no Einsteins you know we are a self group of Recovering Addicts trying to survive to stay Alive and Clean Just For Today,

[BUTTERFLY-7]

Originally Posted by lilbit

Not everybody is gonna understand you...and THAT'S okay. Let people think fer themselves...some like everything spelled out for 'em...and you'll spend all day explainin yerself...if you want to do THAT...cool...but don't sweat it. Trust me...some just like to come out "swingin on the yard" (prison talk) and unless ya wanna play that way....don't. I have much respect for you....and THAT'S better than being feared.
Love YA!

lilbit now First of all ain't nobody coming out swinging
I all ways said, It's easy to put Down the drugs and drinking
But what makes us fall back into the same Pattern
of Insanity is our short comings and Stinking thinking and
please by all means necessary don't take it to
the Heart Brother

[Fulldresser4]

Welcome....and don't worry about it. I knew what you meant. You will find the best bunch of scooter tramps here that you will ever know.

[BUTTERFLY-7]

Originally Posted by Fulldresser4

Welcome....and don't worry about it. I knew what you meant. You will find the best bunch of scooter tramps here that you will ever know.

I will like to know what did you mean by that
about the scooter tramps are you referring to me
or It's that your street slant
or are you talking or replying back to someone
remember when you drink for so many years
and you come to sobriety It's going to
be hard to grasp at certain concepts or topic
so I ask again was that refer to me

[toad]

Originally Posted by BUTTERFLY-7

so I ask again was that refer to me

I don't think it was directed toward you..........It was directed toward me and some of the others, and I am honored..........thanks fulldresser, you're the best!!

Toad...........grateful to be fully clothed and in my right mind.

[BUTTERFLY-7]

I guess thats mans talk in recovery for you

Thanx for replying and clearing the Air for me
Much Appreciated

[Fulldresser4]

Butterfly, I am sooo sorry, I absolutely was NOT referring to you. In my world, scooter tramps is just kind of a term of endearment for bikers, men or women. And I am glad that you asked (thanks Toad) instead of keeping it inside and resenting me. That you posted this reminds me that I need to have the courage you have in asking.

[Zencat]

Originally Posted by Fulldresser4

Butterfly, I am sooo sorry, I absolutely was NOT referring to you. In my world, scooter tramps is just kind of a term of endearment for bikers, men or women.

I'll back that up and add scooter trash is slang fo the da old lady too.

[toad]

Over and over as I trudge the Road of Happy Destiny I keep hearing of a simple prayer that those who become broken and humbled by the disease of alcoholism and addiction say. A simple three words that have more meaning than repeating from memory the 23rd Psalm. Those words are "God help me." My sponsor asked that prayer one Easter morning 49 years ago, and has not had a drink or any mind or mood altering chemical since. I think God understand our slogan "Keep It Simple."

Share this with me:

"Only a block or so from the pier, I saw a man approaching from the opposite direction, with his head down, walking into the rain. When he came to me, he stopped and smiled, and I recognized him as a priest I knew from home. I told him I was very ill. He then sat on a bench with me in the rain and assured me that in time all my troubles would pass and the day would come when I would understand them. He said I was not to do anything foolish, but ask God’s help, and somehow everything would work out."

© 1973 AAWS, Inc.; Came to Believe, 30th printing 2004, pg. 71

Today God continues to do for me what I could not do for myself.

toad...........grateful to be fully clothed and in my right mind

[BUTTERFLY-7]

I don't own a Motorcycle just a Bike cycle :atv
But since I was a little girl I had a passion for
Motorcycles of every kind, but the one I like the most
is the Hartley Davidson Bikes and the 250,R,M
Dirt Bike It's funny cause I had a dream 2 nights ago
that me and some other Girl we were riding Dirt Bikes
and this Big Dude was chasing us to on a Bike
and I took a unusual turn but she didn't she kept going
and the turn I did was a Down Hill but the road was Icy.
weird Hu? Well my Son Adam He is only 16 years old and
he said that when he gets old he wants a Motorcycle
He has a thing with Speed Lord Jesus Help me cause when
It comes to me It's weird I wouldn't mine Owning one
But when it comes to your offspring The Mother Panic
Button,Go's off l.o.l My Brother owns a Kawasaki-
I Got into a small accident writing in the Back of My Friend
motorcycle, the turn he did was to quick and we fealt
side ways and the Muffler of the Bike Burn my Calf.
Well that's it for Now Oh Before I Go Thnx to toad,&
FullDresser4 for a Full Intruduction on the Male Bounding
I'm the only child from my Dad But my Mom Had more
After she Divorce my Dad so I was race with 11 males-
and 4 male Brothers two off them pass away may they
R.I.P. and I leave you Guy's with this

This is the
250 RM
Hardley
Davidson