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Hi Everyone.... On another thread I mentioned I had lost 26 friends since I found recovery in '89. Then I got to thinking ...so many of us equate drunk driving to alcoholic deaths. Others assume an alcoholic is jobless friendless....a nomad living in parks. My dead friends lived in D.C. Drunk driving was not why they died. None was a skid row drinker. Norman in my bed...a heart attack He took a legal pain med and had 5 beers. John P......a suicide ..alone .Cocaine and Burbon Bob...I found him dead in my apartment when I came back from vacation. He had been there 6 days and I did not realize it was a person I loved. I had to throw out my carpet and chair. Wayne...who shared a home with me I cleaned up his vomit and blood as he bled to death on his way to ER. Pat...I last saw him 2 hours before he died of alcoholism. He was restrained in a hospital bed raving and yellow. Leo...I worked with him for 10 years. He died on the restaurant floor Convulsing and vomiting blood. Joe...hit a bridge head on...drunk...in his PJ's..sucide Princess....froze to death passed out in an alley Richard ... shot himself in his bottle strewn car. Charlie ..died waiting for a liver transplant Stephen and Ann...liver cancer Jeff and Ted...drunk...alone...found days after death in apartments Not possible to pin point causes due to body decomposition. A few had tried AA....2 died recovered Sooo....while I do stress "Don't Drink and Drive" my personal list of who I mourn has nothing to do with it. With the hope that someone will save their own life I share some of my dead friends with you. Thank you for reading ...please find a way to live without alcohol.
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Wow - thanks for sharing. I am so glad I found this site, just for stories like that to help keep me straight.
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Thank you Carol for the reminder of what a horrible disease this is. Baffeling and powerful...
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| Carol, thank you for the reminder. I have no idea why I am one of the few who is sober today but I have a greater appreciation for my sobriety knowing that there are so many who this disease kills. I love it when I see a chairperson put an empty chair in the middle of the room to acknowledge the alcoholic who died before they could make it and for the alcoholic who still suffers.
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This made me make a list of the people in my life that died from alcoholism, and it isn't pretty. Thanks Carol for posting this.
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Thanks Carol When I first got sober, I can still remember at treatment and in meetings hearing 'people die from this disease' and I thought 'yeah,yeah' - I love a bit of the melodramatic stuff too. Then when I was 4 years sober people I knew and recovery friends started dying, the first one being an ex boyfriend of mine who was found murdered (after being missing for a year) and the local paper said he was a drug addict who faked mental illness to get drugs, which as far as I can remember was probably true. I rang his family to get an address to send a card and spoke to his aunty who kept saying over and over, ' I don't understand why the papers are saying that stuff about him. He was such a nice boy.' I can vividly recall thinking, he was a nice guy. And not being sarcastic either - he was a really nice guy, underneath all the ugliness of his illness. I have been told that all of us have a 'messge' to carry even those of us who die.
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Thanks Carol...I have a few that I know of... Davey...we went to Jr high...Cocaine & Whiskey bender 2 years ago, found dead in front of a carry out, The police report said he had a can of beer in his hand. So twicked on Cocaine he was waiting for it to open so he could buy more beer to come down! Cid...out boating on lake Erie when the boat capsize...he was so drunk he belived he could swim all the way in as the storm raged...everyone else survived by holding onto the boat. Jeff...drummer for a band I played in...died waiting for a liver transplant Ricky...friend from elemently school...died from heart failure after 5 day bender, Cocaine, Whiskey, beer and anything else he could get his hands on.... Leo...drunk walking down the road, hit by a car and killered! Terry....Hep C (Drinks heavy) still living in CA...rumor has it lives in the mountians and is a farmer...if you know what I mean!!! Thats all I know of but I have not in lived in my home town in many years. I"m sure I have lost many friends from drugs and alcohol. Funny how I think back to 70's, it was all about Love, bell bottoms, peace signs, smokin weed n trippin... but it really took its toll on many of us! |
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Thank you to all of you for sharing this. Cathy31 x
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thank you carol alot of my friends from my first sobriety have died over the years sober, and a few drunk or using. But one very nice and wonderful person that i spent time with in treatment basically couldn't deal with sobriety...he had a very dificult time with other issues which drinking had made worse. He attended an aa meeting, left the meeting and went and shot 2 people. People really got angry at him and really put him down, but i remember my old sponsor telling me once after a sober suicide in our group....some people come back...just not soon enough. and i do believe tht there but for grace go I. My friend was/is a very good person and i love him. i do not envy his path and it made me realize that there may be in fact worse things than dying of this disease...I wasn't afraid of dying at the end...but living with the knowledge of what we have done can be worse.....but of course i am grateful today that i lived and found sobriety. |
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Thank you so much Carol. I have also lost several family members and friends to alcoholism & drug addiction. Last August, I was a pallbearer for a friend - 43 years old, same field of work as me, heavy daily drinker, brain aneurysm while at his office, didn't make it to the hospital. A good man lost. What I remember most vividly from the funeral is trying to comfort his little nieces & nephews. On occasion, I tried to talk to him about his drinking, to get help. He would start crying. His grave is near to my fathers and I visit often. I think he would be proud of me. We truly are the fortunate ones. |
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I have a friend who is coming up on 18 yrs sober this Dec he has a list of names who died since he got sober in 1990 all has come to aa at some time 67 people on his list some drank themselves to death some was in car wrecks,some suicides some od`ed none died sober there are probally many more we never found out about
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ken dead in stupid motorbike smash 5 years ago mad drunk at the time, his wife died this weekend, took aload of pills, jumped in a canal. Philip in a car smash while smashed, not dead but as good as, he can only move his fingers on one hand. my god what a post. I never put it all togeather that all this was a result of addiction one way or another. a great post even though a tragic one.
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Thank you for the reminder of what can happen to us. Sometimes I forget and it's good that you have reminded me of where I might be if I continue to drink.
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Wow- Although I can really apreciate this post I feel guilty for being one of the survivors who knocked on deaths door too many times to count. I'm sorry for all of your losses Carol
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thanks Carol for the space to remember in loving gratitude, those who did not live to recover from alcohlism. I remember bill c age 42 (my dad) 1972 sandy m age 43 (my bf) 1995 terence w age 37 1985 michael g age 39 1979 scott j age 29 1982 walter h age 48 1987 leah s age 17 1972 chris c age 19 1973 jane s age 45 1990 jeffery c age 52 2004 nelson j age 51 1999 freddie p age 43 1996 charlie f age 55 2007 matt q age 48 2007 bob t age 53 2007 and the others rest in peace~
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in sobriety, I've said my good byes to some more dead friends: Johnnie Walker Jim Beam Jack Daniels Sam Adams Carl Mondavi Mr Bailey Mmle Cointreau Clans Glenfiddich + Glenlivet Ron Bacardi Jose Cuervo the St Pauli Girl Bud entire families from Burgundy and Champagne regions in France and the Chiantis of Italy I am doing well without these friends in my life today.
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What a post. I keep re-reading it. Thanks for sharing Carol.
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Wow....thank you everyone for those SOBERING posts! Just as sad: those we know now who "but for the grace of God" will be added to that roll call... I could especially ditto this post: Quote:
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