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Old 08-31-2015, 10:50 PM
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Class of April 2015 Part 8

last part here:

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...rt-7-a-20.html

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Old 08-31-2015, 11:38 PM
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Great to hear from you Zab!!!
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It's great to rise and shine so early for work and not be hungover!Ok, maybe the rising so early part isn't that great, lol. Have a great day everybody!
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Old 09-01-2015, 04:37 AM
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Rise and shine early part blows.

Yesterday, I did inventory (my PT job) for 9hrs in the sun. Was 90degrees. We were working in a parking lot with black asphalt. I was sweating like a stuck pig. Got a sun burn too, but I actually like sun burns. Sounds weird, but yeah. I like sun burns.

After sweating all day, I did some door knocks. Came home ate a burger, made calls to set appointments, replaced the kitchen faucet cause it broke day before, then finally went to bed at midnight. Exhausted.

Long day. Pretty far stretch from Cauliflowers day chasing Wilson and all. But one thing is for sure....there is NO WAY, I could have done that while drinking all day. Not to mention the HORRIBLE hangover I would have today. Man...I almost feel ill just thinking about it.
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Inc, hats off to you mate! Sounds like you're going at it 150℅ to get your finances back on track. No way anyone could do that hungover por drinking!!!
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Just saw this link on another thread. Really interesting on the "disease" of alcoholism at its historical origins. Check it out:

https://youtu.be/6Gy9BPcD_JE
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It was a hot one today! I had to go into the city and my vehicle has no air conditioning. It sucks, but I put my put up my hair, rolled the windows down and turned up the tunes, so it wasn't so bad. None for me today!
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Old 09-01-2015, 05:16 PM
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Just saw this link on another thread. Really interesting on the "disease" of alcoholism at its historical origins. Check it out:

https://youtu.be/6Gy9BPcD_JE
This is a very interesting video. The speaker does in the end state that alcoholism is indeed a disease. Apparently, alcohol causes the brain to be rewired, creating new neural pathways which ultimately causes the downward life spirals that we here are all too familiar with. I think the term he uses is addo-genic. The substance has to be introduced into the body to create the rewiring of the brain. Secondly, there is great hope for recovery, we are not helpless and morally weak, as seems to be the AA model.
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This spring, when I was failing every online "am I an alcoholic" test available, I came across the C.O.R.E. theory which basically infers that our "animal brain", which controls our basic drives like eating and sleeping, is tricked into thinking that the body needs alcohol to survive. The animal brain, or booze brain, keeps trying to trick the neocortex , the human brain that is more evolved and gives us a sense of self, into drinking. When I quit drinking, the booze brain was constantly trying to get the human brain to drink. The video shows that neural rewiring takes place, likely in our lower brain stem, and causes a positive reinforcement circuit in our brain when we drink. This causes the familiar cravings we experience.

Sorry for the digression here. This subject fascinates me and helps me to understand my own behaviors.
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Good morning all, catch up laggers.
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Ha! Was up before you today, Zab! Just failed to post and you've beaten me to it again!!!

The topic of the neurological effects of drinking really is very interesting. I agree with you, Stargazer, that it helps us understand what we are going through. I guess that neurological pathways slowly heal in time, like a diverted river, if left to it's own devices, will return to its original course. Does anyone know anything about neurological healing and timeframes? I know some brain receptors can take a year or two to recover. Not sure if that's the same for the whole brain though?

Anyway, hope you have a great day!
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Good morning all! Work at 4:00 a.m. this morning. I should have been a doctor. Have a great day!
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Forgot to mention that I have one of those counters on my phone that counts the time since my last drink. Last night my "odometer" rolled over to 200,000 minutes/12,000,000 seconds. I'm such a geek that I didn't want to fall asleep before the rollover. 138 days in the books!
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Congrats on your score Stargazer! I need one of those counters! Always need to work out my sober days now. Used to be the first thing on my mind! I think that's a good thing
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Way to go Stargazer! That is awesome.

Some very interesting posts. Thank you SG.

Amp...I gotta finish that video. I don't know why, but I could listen to that guy all day
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Have any of you folks read a book(s) that you felt was very inspirational in your quest for recovery and / or continued recovery? I read Mark Tuschel's "Living Sober Sucks, but Living Drunk Sucks More" at the beginning of my recovery and though rambling at times, gave me inspiration to stick it out during those brutal beginning days. I never made it past page one of The Big Book.
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The big book offered no value for me. Extremely expensive too. Bought it used, flipped on eBay.

I haven't picked up anything that inspired me necessarily. But I did happen to read "achievement through NLP". Or listened to itnI should say. I found it extremely helpful for developing coping skills, meditation techniques, and other "tricks" to reprogram my mind and self talk. If you read my early posts, you probably saw me ramble on forever about NLP.

Neuro linguistics Programming. It's what Tony Robbins used to motivate and change people's thought patterns. He didn't create it, but he pushed it the most.
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I didn't do AA but I got a lot of value out of the Big Book, especially the stories. Didn't cost me anything...most libraries have a copy

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Yeah...I guess I can't say NO value. It did plant a seed that I wasn't abnormal. I didn't take it as though I was "sick" but understood that I needed to treat my addiction as though I was sick.

Helped me recognize that overcoming my addiction was far more than toughing out acute WD's. There was a deeper issue that needed to be addressed for me especially as I was bouncing from one addiction to another and only happened to land in alcohol hard when all else was removed.
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I wasn't critiquing you IC - just adding my experience to the dialogue - no worries

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