Just started my 4th Step with my Big Book Step Study Sponsor
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Boston
Posts: 4
Just started my 4th Step with my Big Book Step Study Sponsor
Hey Folks. As you can tell from the title of this post, I just started my 4th Step with my sponsor (as it's laid out in the Big Book), and I'm working on the resentment portion and I wanted to compare notes with other folks: What sort of numbers did people come up with for people that they held resentments towards? 50? 100? 500? Thanks in advance.
Forward we go...side by side-Rest In Peace
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Serene In Dixie
Posts: 36,740
Welcome to SR....
i did mine directly from the BB too..many years ago.
Glad you are beginnning your 4th.
I really don't recall but by doing a nightly inventory and taking
quick action ...I find the numbers far less ..
i did mine directly from the BB too..many years ago.
Glad you are beginnning your 4th.
I really don't recall but by doing a nightly inventory and taking
quick action ...I find the numbers far less ..
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Boston
Posts: 4
Thanks guys. I've been at it for less than 24 hours, and I have about a hundred resentments toward individuals. I know there's still more in there, but I want to make sure I'm being fearless and thorough rather than exhaustive. I guess it's time for a 3rd step prayer and then I'll know.
Sponsor said, "Write down the people you are resentful at."
My response: "but I have no resentments today."
We had a discussion, then I was told to write a name, skip two lines.
about 4 pages, every third line, legal pad paper. Must I go count??
After that was done, I was given the next step, then the next, then the next..... Very early recovery. Everything had to be said simply....
I suggest you get through that step, no intellectualizing, just do it.
My response: "but I have no resentments today."
We had a discussion, then I was told to write a name, skip two lines.
about 4 pages, every third line, legal pad paper. Must I go count??
After that was done, I was given the next step, then the next, then the next..... Very early recovery. Everything had to be said simply....
I suggest you get through that step, no intellectualizing, just do it.
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Boston
Posts: 4
Yeah, I have always been in the "accelerated" group, and with only 9 years of drinking, I figure that I'll have a low number as well. Unfortunately, I was selfish and self-seeking well before I picked up the first drink.
0_o the forum blocks out "pee" but we can say other worse things? Lol. That makes no sense. :P Interesting.
Anyway I understand that. I'm 24 and got sober 7 months ago, within the last 3 years I accelerated big time and I am kind of glad I did. I would rather be sober now then have to suffer another 10 or 20 years and do it later.
Anyway I understand that. I'm 24 and got sober 7 months ago, within the last 3 years I accelerated big time and I am kind of glad I did. I would rather be sober now then have to suffer another 10 or 20 years and do it later.
Member
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Knoxville, TN
Posts: 7
I have done a few step fours. I am of the set that feels you should re-visit your step four each year.
I am four years sober and I have done two complete step fours. (So like many things, I am not disciplined in this.)
I do step four from the big book and I have done one from Hazeldon. Personally, I got more out of the big book one. Something about writing everything out in my own handwriting.
For me, I find it wise to use a pencil. Helps to be able to go back and re-write, erase, change, whatever is needed.
I put down those BIG heavy hitting resentments for sure. Then I go back and put what comes to mind. Before I start I ask God to help me to be honest and willing and open-minded. Then I just start writing. I keep writing (down the list) until I can NOT think of any more.
For me, this is less than 15 resentments. And for me, it is the little ones that are the biggest triggers. I feel it is because you know they are little and one should be able to cowgirl up to these. That's just life.
Specifically, I have a resentment against Wal-mart. The lack of quality, the lack of inventory, the lack of parking and the check out wait time and inefficiency. I actually call my sponcer from the Wal-Mart parking lot. Many times.
My part? Why do I go to Wal-Mart anyway?
I LOVE step four. For me, I do a sort of baby step four in my head at (when I retire at night). It has helped me tremendously.
Bottom line, this is YOUR program. You do what works for you and keeps you sober.
I am four years sober and I have done two complete step fours. (So like many things, I am not disciplined in this.)
I do step four from the big book and I have done one from Hazeldon. Personally, I got more out of the big book one. Something about writing everything out in my own handwriting.
For me, I find it wise to use a pencil. Helps to be able to go back and re-write, erase, change, whatever is needed.
I put down those BIG heavy hitting resentments for sure. Then I go back and put what comes to mind. Before I start I ask God to help me to be honest and willing and open-minded. Then I just start writing. I keep writing (down the list) until I can NOT think of any more.
For me, this is less than 15 resentments. And for me, it is the little ones that are the biggest triggers. I feel it is because you know they are little and one should be able to cowgirl up to these. That's just life.
Specifically, I have a resentment against Wal-mart. The lack of quality, the lack of inventory, the lack of parking and the check out wait time and inefficiency. I actually call my sponcer from the Wal-Mart parking lot. Many times.
My part? Why do I go to Wal-Mart anyway?
I LOVE step four. For me, I do a sort of baby step four in my head at (when I retire at night). It has helped me tremendously.
Bottom line, this is YOUR program. You do what works for you and keeps you sober.
Guest
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 3,452
I'm working on my grudge list, and am listening to Don P. Spiritual Journey.
He talks about not putting myself on my grudge list.
I always have in the past.
I thought the biggest resentment I had was towards myself.
I failed.
Don says, "There's a presumption that if I am mad at myself for not having done better, that I had the power to do better, and I didn't."
~
Either I was driven by alcoholism, powerless, unmanageable, or not. (my words)...for me...
I am seeing...and following his lead this time to leave myself off my 4th step.
I can't resent myself anymore for not being what I think I should have been or done, or had or didn't have.
Don said putting self on the 4th step was self indulgence.
I started tonight and have about 350 on the grudge list so far.
~
Don P. from Aurora, CO speaking on steps 3 and 4 at The Big Book - A Spiritual Journey workshop at Mount Manresa in Staten Island NY - December 19th 2003
9 minutes in, he talks about putting self on inventory
XA-Speakers - The lights are on!
Currently Active Users Viewing this Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)