Rafting is key
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I suppose this is about the seltzer bottles in my room, about my own boredom and desperation for a vital experience and a cluelessness about how to get that experience. There were times in my life when i felt like my best self. Brief moments. Usually with proximal booze. Usually in another country. I just dont see that possibility in the here and now of achieving a rich experience. The people i come into contact with seem amazingly guarded and shut off. The readily available experience seems lonely at worst and monastic at best. Better of course that horrific at worse and manic at best. Maybe im simply uninteresting. I love everyone right away. What tom B says on youtube resonates. Its not a case of learning to love yourself first; its never loving yourself because youre too busy loving everyone else. Booze makes this even more of a trap of course and the answer is to start loving yourself and stop letting all of the squalor in and internalizing it. Being drab has its challenges.
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it almost sounds like you need to live a little or soak in some expierineces. like I dunno go for a walk and stare at a butterfly or something and take it in that kinda thing.
tho the raft idea sounds kinda cool too tho .
I keep telling myself to go for a hike on the appalation trail and i'm gonna sooner or later. Idealy i'd love to just take off of work and run it for a few months but that whole wife and kids and money thing and all *Sigh*.
tho the raft idea sounds kinda cool too tho .
I keep telling myself to go for a hike on the appalation trail and i'm gonna sooner or later. Idealy i'd love to just take off of work and run it for a few months but that whole wife and kids and money thing and all *Sigh*.
I feel it goes back to my addictive tendency to seek instant gratification. I wanted things to feel good NOW and without any effort on my part.
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I am emotionally unsober.
This place has its unique character but culture is too complex to really parse.
The emotional solace i achieve is in solitude. Sometimes i worry that the core of sobriety and the impulse toward is really a rationalization of an underlying impulse toward a ritualistic format for living. Somber, pleasure free, contemplative, alone. A carthusian monk. I guess there are worse things. Thanks everyone.
This place has its unique character but culture is too complex to really parse.
The emotional solace i achieve is in solitude. Sometimes i worry that the core of sobriety and the impulse toward is really a rationalization of an underlying impulse toward a ritualistic format for living. Somber, pleasure free, contemplative, alone. A carthusian monk. I guess there are worse things. Thanks everyone.
I think that's a common worry, yet unfounded. Entire cultures exist and thrive without alcohol or drugs. Even in western cultures some of the brightest and most successful/charismatic people choose not to use mind altering substances, and not just because of addiction.
I hear ya. I moved to Central America and have been living in the mountains here for the past 2.5 years. With all the online jobs nowadays, anyone can do it. What's stopping you from living your dream? If you've been sober for at least a year, maybe it's time to take that next step and create a more worthy life experience?
ah; for me, contemplative and somber IS pleasure.
as for you...vital, you mean, as in necessary or vitality?
isn't this where people usually/often suggest outward-looking, other-focusing volunteering?
as for you...vital, you mean, as in necessary or vitality?
isn't this where people usually/often suggest outward-looking, other-focusing volunteering?
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A suggestion davai, one I can't act on until circumstances permit. Go and find a great big night sky away from the city. Somewhere that allows for a blanket of stars at night where you can see all the constellations. And just watch it.
This always helps me. Even a drive through the southern part of my state at night allows for more night sky than where I reside and it eases my anxieties. I watch the moon a lot too. It's been surprising how many great big, gorgeous moons we've had this summer and nobody seems to stop and marvel at them.
This was noted by a stranger once when my bf and I were walking to the car through a parking lot and I asked him to stop and look as I often will.
This always helps me. Even a drive through the southern part of my state at night allows for more night sky than where I reside and it eases my anxieties. I watch the moon a lot too. It's been surprising how many great big, gorgeous moons we've had this summer and nobody seems to stop and marvel at them.
This was noted by a stranger once when my bf and I were walking to the car through a parking lot and I asked him to stop and look as I often will.
You know, if you go far enough north to the Adirondacks where the Hudson begins, it is little more than a glorified stream. I would suggest you start out there before making your way down to New York City.
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