My moderation plan ...

[Pboy]

I typically drink at a neighborhood bar where I'm considered a regular.

I usually start with some sort of cocktail and typically it progress to cocktails plus shots.

I understand in theory 1 beer = 1 glass of wine = 1 shot of hard alcohol, but not being a particular fan of wine or having a demonstrated history of abusing beer (I get filled up to easily) I propose I limit my alcohol consumption to these 2 options.

What do you think of this ingenious plan?

[Dee74]

OK despite years of trying I'm not a moderation expert - I might be missing something, but don't you need to set a *drink* limit?

Otherwise you're just limiting your drinking to wine and beer, or cocktails and shots or whatever - and that's not moderation pboy, it's some kind of alcoholic 'diet'.

D

[north]

Originally Posted by Pboy

I typically drink at a neighborhood bar where I'm considered a regular.

I usually start with some sort of cocktail and typically it progress to cocktails plus shots.

I understand in theory 1 beer = 1 glass of wine = 1 shot of hard alcohol, but not being a particular fan of wine or having a demonstrated history of abusing beer (I get filled up to easily) I propose I limit my alcohol consumption to these 2 options.

What do you think of this ingenious plan?

Wow. Only beer and wine - who would have thunk?

The number of such "ingenious" moderation plans is probably limited only to your imagination. If your first experiment fails, then maybe a revised one with only white wine instead of red, or light beer instead of regular? Or, maybe the solution lies in "only Guinness"?

As long as failing at your attempts don't land you in permanent hot water or a jail cell, I'd recommend setting a reasonable limit to the number of such attempts at moderation AND provide yourself with a Plan B should all your attempts fail. Preferably a Plan B that includes abstinence from booze.

Good luck.

[Ago]

Keep doing what you are doing

when you are done, come see us

oh, here's a hug

[sailorjohn]

Originally Posted by Pboy

What do you think of this ingenious plan?

Well, I think you should give it a try.

And come back and let us know how it works out for you.

[Pboy]

I'm an accomplished drinker, but there's no way I could approach a 12 pack of beer ... I'd be too full. In the last 30+ years of drinking I don't believe I've ever done that.

Likewise with wine, the tannins would tear my stomach up.

I maybe wrong I just can't imagine myself getting trashed on either at this point. That's not to say down the road these beverages couldn't become equally as problematic as hard alcohol, but not at this moment in time.

We'll see ... if it doesn't workout and my alcohol consumption is still a problem, I'll quit for good.

[Gypsy Feet]

Good Luck=)

I went from hard alcohol to only beer

beer to only hard

fridays only

2 drinks per night only

special occasions only

I always managed to wake up hung over, vowing not to drink that night, only to repeat the whole thing later. For me, the only way I can set a rule and keep it is to not have any, because after that first one, my rules get all bendy. My standards get lower. My morals get foggy. My resolve gets squishy.

[thirtybubba]

Never bought beer for myself--don't like it. Pretty much what you said, fills me up. Hate the taste. Plus it gives me a hangover.

Wine, well, that's always meant to me a glass with dinner or so. I would think of abusing wine like I'd think of abusing Lysol or vanilla... nope.

Liquor, well, there you got me. Or better put, it's got me.

But if you took away all the liquor I could reach, I would have went for a beer or a bottle of wine--and then several of each until I got as drunk as a knocking back a fifth of 80 proof, however many that takes. And then I'd do the same thing again tomorrow.

But that's only me. I agree with Sailorjohn...

Well, I think you should give it a try.

And come back and let us know how it works out for you.

'Cause you, like anyone, can hear/read all there is to hear/read. You might not believe any of it till you've been to where the speaker has been, and understand why they're saying the things they do... which would put you roughly in the same position as about half of us here on SR, myself included. Knucklehead crowd...

Best of luck,
-TB

[Sikkisirus]

Good luck with the plan anyway. I still drink a few times a week but could never moderate how much I drink on those nights. I found (FOR ME) that limiting the days I drink works. Its worked for me. It sure beat drinking every day like I used to.
So good luck and be careful

[penny74]

If you can moderate ... good for you..would be nice for you..
Otherwise we will see you here again, l hope.

Voltaire:
Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too.

[TheSunAlsoRises]

Originally Posted by north

Or, maybe the solution lies in "only Guinness"?

Good luck.

Man if I would have had the cash I would have liked to have tried that one before I stopped hahaha... I'm grateful I don't have to play those games with myself today though. Its everyone's inalienable right to try some easier softer way... come back when it doesn't work we are all here to support you

[spen71]

If it works for you then fair enough. I have tried it and it does not work for me. I just steadily drink more and more and earlier in the day. On day 2 again today and I am telling myself again that I cannot have any at or.

[least]

If your plan works for you, great! I could never moderate my drinking. I'd always end up drinking the whole bottle or more.

If your plan doesn't work, do try quitting completely. If you never have that first drink, you can't have too many.

[CarolD]

What is moderation?

According to the U.S. Center for Disease Control

Moderate drinking is no more than
2 drinks a day for men..1 for women

They consider a drink to be
12 oz. of beer..5 oz. of wine...1 1/2 oz of liquor.

Your body and mind processes all 3 toxins equally
so drinking only wine or only liquor or only beer
or mixing them is of no importance.
They all do the same damage.

Welcome to our SR Alcoholism Forum

Glad to see you posting here too.

[baldjim]

the way i look at it it takes me probably a bottle of jack d to even notice i have had a drink ,i can down 20 pints and still feel sober no trouble

if i drink that much i will die

if i dont drink that much i'm sober ..so what on earth is the point of me listening to my drinking buddies saying stuff like "go on one drink wont kill you" etc

my point being if i'm not gona even notice i've had two let alone get drunk on two there is no point whats so ever me drinking them at all

and the temptation to go find my buzz whilst i'm in a pub may be to greatt for me once i get the taste

[endzoner]

think you should go back and read your post from when you arrived on SR .. drunk and pasted out in your car

[Pboy]

Originally Posted by endzoner

think you should go back and read your post from when you arrived on SR .. drunk and pasted out in your car

I'm aware of that post, but like I said that was after a night of hard liquor and shots (to include Jagermeister).

Rarely if ever (in 30 years of drinking) have I ever approached that point drinking beer OR wine.

The trick will be not to switch off once I get that full feeling from beer. I don't think it would be possible to mix a significant amount of other alcohol with wine without a distinct possibility of hurling.

btw, if the "moderation plan" doesn't work ... I will quit completely.

[shaun00]

good luck..i hope it works out.
and if it dont........well dont be afraid to say it didnt..

my thinking was/is different from yours.
what the point if your not gonna get blitzed....i just dont get it.
oh sure ive tricked myself into believeing i can.

waking up in the morning.........not understanding how i got drunk....where i am....or... "who the hell is that"......

enjoy.

[suki44883]

After a fair amount of sober time (coming up on 16 months), I'm realizing the lengths some people will go to just to keep from admitting they have a real problem with alcohol. We make all kinds of "deals" with others and ourselves, just so we can keep drinking. I mean...what's so friggin' great about drinking alcohol? There are so many other beverages out there that taste better and don't leave us sick and feeling like we've been run over by a truck, waking up in our car, waking up not knowing where we are, waking up wondering where is my car?? But, for some strange reason, we'll practically tie ourselves in knots just so we can continue to consume alcohol. We analyze it, re-analyze it and over-analyze it, just so we can keep drinking.

Pboy, I really hope this latest deal you are making with yourself will work for the long haul. Chances are though, that it won't. However, if you're not ready to just stop drinking for good, nothing we say, and no deals you make, are going to convince you how much better off you will be to just not drink anymore.

[baldjim]

Originally Posted by suki44883

After a fair amount of sober time (coming up on 16 months), I'm realizing the lengths some people will go to just to keep from admitting they have a real problem with alcohol. We make all kinds of "deals" with others and ourselves, just so we can keep drinking. I mean...what's so friggin' great about drinking alcohol? There are so many other beverages out there that taste better and don't leave us sick and feeling like we've been run over by a truck, waking up in our car, waking up not knowing where we are, waking up wondering where is my car?? But, for some strange reason, we'll practically tie ourselves in knots just so we can continue to consume alcohol. We analyze it, re-analyze it and over-analyze it, just so we can keep drinking.

Pboy, I really hope this latest deal you are making with yourself will work for the long haul. Chances are though, that it won't. However, if you're not ready to just stop drinking for good, nothing we say, and no deals you make, are going to convince you how much better off you will be to just not drink anymore.

great post

[Pboy]

My plan may very well not work.

As I stated in an earlier thread, I quit without a drop of any sort last year for 100 days effortlessly. The only thing I missed was he social aspect of meeting people in a social environment.

I'm single and work in a cubicle all day. I don't think it would serve me to spend all of my off time alone in my apartment.

I heard suggestions like joining a book club, or taking up walking/running to fill the void, but once daylight savings time lapses I'm not sure if many suggestions are viable.

I know the odds are against a "moderation plan" but I'm certainly doomed for failure if there's no social component in my life.

[allport]

I have no idea if this idea of swapping drinks has ever worked (I kind of doubt it buy you never know).

What happened to me when I switched the types of drinks I drank was simply that once I had a mild buzz going (and my inhibitions were fading) I went back to my original choice, it seemed like a good idea at the time, as these things generally do.

My point is that once you are slightly drunk you do not have what it takes to stick to sober decisions, and as for not being able to down a 12 pack you will be amazed how quickly that will change (and look forward to piling on the weight as well), all in all its a pretty stupid plan, but I'm sure most of us have given it a few tries.

I hope that nothing terrible happens to while you are trying this experiment.

[Pboy]

Originally Posted by allport

My point is that once you are slightly drunk you do not have what it takes to stick to sober decisions

Well, I certainly can't argue that ... hence the numerous times of stopping in for 2 or 3 at happy hour, but not leaving until 2 or 3 in the morning with no chance of making it to work at 6 or 7 a.m.

[baldjim]

[QUOTE=Pboy;2410125]My plan may very well not work.

As I stated in an earlier thread, I quit without a drop of any sort last year for 100 days effortlessly. The only thing I missed was he social aspect of meeting people in a social environment.





my feelings exactly

its the having a laugh i miss more than the drinking by far


i have tried to have a laugh with folk on sr but i dont think some people like that sort of thing

i'm on facebookl though if you want to goof around a bit

jimmy.bowers1

[suki44883]

There is a world full of people out there who have a very active social life and don't drink. How do you suppose they do that? Maybe it's time you made some friends who don't drink. One doesn't have to sit at home alone just because they don't drink alcohol. If we would spend as much time thinking about how we can have fun without alcohol as we do thinking about how we can fool ourselves that drinking is okay for us, I'm sure we could come up with a lot of good ideas. Millions of people do it everyday.