Why relapse after years of sobriety Hi, Im not relapsing, although boredom is a huge challenge to me. It seems to me that there is a percentage or type of alcoholic that is more vunerable to relapse due to boredom and frustration. Is this true or just a figment of my imagination? Whatg bugs me is the number of posters who come on here after years of sobriety only to relapse into old ways. Is this because of the above point?? G |
I don't know why some alcoholics drink again after years sober. That has not been part of my 20+ yeas of sucessful sobriety. I can tell you that I do not find life boring....:no: Daily I connect with God and my AA friends. By living in the 12 Steps of the AA program... I'm filled with purpose and joy....:yup: I wish everyone the serenity of recovery :) |
Boredom is a tough one to overcome. I had two years of Sobriety in and I just relapsed 5 months ago for three weeks mainly due to boredom when I was by myself for a week. It was a disaster. It showed me the following two things: 1) Alcoholism always gets worse. It never gets better. 2) I am going to have to maintain some type of work on my sobriety for the rest of my life. |
Why not relapse? After almost six years of sobriety I recently relapsed. Why?? Why not?? Boredon...no, not really. Fustration, stress, depression, maybe, but, not really. I relapsed because I thought I could drink again. I thought after that much time, and knowing the promises of sobriety that certainly, I could socially drink, on certain occasions. Maybe I just tried to convince myself, once again that I am not an alkie. Maybe I had to struggle thru detox and its physical h#ll ravage my body and soul. Maybe I didn't keep some form of balance in my life while facing stress. I could write an essay of excuses. The truth is, I relapsed because I drank. I always need to remember the reason I can't drink...I am an alcoholic. |
Why someone returns to drinking after years of sobriety? There could be a multitude of causes for this. Some causes could be complex and others simple. There are all knowing gurus that will have all the answer to this...I'm not one of them. What matters most for these individuals that do relapse after many years of being recovered/recoverable/recovering...what to do next. |
There will always be people who relapse Eddie. Maybe we see more of them cos we're on a recovery site? For me, I know I'm an alcoholic - I can live with that, but I can't change it.... if I want to remain sober, I have keep up to the challenge - always.... I have to make sure if I do get complacent or blase, or bored, or vulnerable in any other way that I reach out and manage the situation immediately I'm aware....before it gets out of hand. If I don't, and it's easy to do...I know where I'll end up. D |
It's not just on SR, i have met a few in AA...of course i ask my sponsor how does that happen...he answers they were not sober in the first place and were not working the program...haven't heard any stories about someone working the program as they should who have chosen to go out and drink again though:-) |
l relapsed many times because l was bored with being sober.. stupid. And because l thought l could handle 'a few" That worked for a while, but it would allways end in a drama. And to tell the truth l relapsed because l just wanted a cold beer after a hot day. And have a short escape from life.. Everyone else was... "The years teach much that the days never know." -- Emerson |
Yeah...most of the above. Sometimes mind numbing boredom. Sometimes just wanted to get 'out of it' for an evening (sick of the rapier like clarity of the sober life). Sometimes I get a perverse train of thought that glamourises drunkeness. It's edgy. It's life in the fast lane. It's the fate of every struggling artist. Sometimes it's just because I have had a really great and productive day and I want to come home and reward myself. The biggest killer for me is this one: ' You never had a problem really mate..you were just a heavy occassional drinker, you're not an alcoholic. You have put yourself through all this for nothing. Denying great times in the mistaken believe you have problem'. That one will get ya every frikken time! |
Originally Posted by Shakespeare
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' You never had a problem really mate..you were just a heavy occassional drinker, you're not an alcoholic. You have put yourself through all this for nothing. Denying great times in the mistaken believe you have problem'. That one will get ya every frikken time! |
Hi Eddie...it is frustrating to see people relapse but like Dee said being on a recovery site gives us a front row seat. I spent close to a year in aa and saw people relapse almost every meeting I went to...seems to me the reasons all boiled down to the same thing...people convince themselves that they can drink again without negative consequences. Truthfully as someone who never wanted to drink again I found the environment toxic and had to remove myself. I do think that boredom plays a huge roll in relapse, I personally spent a lot of time and energy drinking...that time needed to be filled with other activities. Without things that keep our mind occupied we are free to romance the drink again. |
I don't understand boredom....:no: I do think boring people are prone to negetive thoughts. It takes action to be both interesting and interested..:) Get out of yourself....find a passion ...enjoy life. Here is a list...compiled by SR members of things to do. 1. Read a book 2. Take a walk 3. Play a musical instrument 4. Knit 5. Clean your closets 6. Research your genealogy 7. Cook a gourmet dinner 8. Write an article for your local newspaper 9. Go take some pictures 10. Clean the mildew in your bathroom 11. Start writing that book you've been planning 12. Plan a garden 13. Plant a garden 14. Play with a pet 15. Read to a child 16. Visit someone in an old folks' home 17. Watch a news special on TV 18. Set up a family budget 19. Make a web site 20. Take up archery 21. Exercise 22. Go to an online recovery meeting 23. Surf the internet 24. Call your mom 25. Learn a foreign language 26. Write a poem 27. Play golf 28. Take a bubble bath 29. Draw 30. Teach a parakeet to whistle 31. Take a nap 32. Listen to music 33. Paint 34. Clean your desk 35. Start a stamp collection 36. Go window shopping 37. Browse in a book store 38. Go to an art gallery 39. Go for a drive 40. Paint a room 41. Watch the clouds go by 42. Play darts 43. Do target shooting 44. Do home repairs 45. Clean your garage 46. Sort your photographs 47. Make a scrapbook 48. Climb a tree 49. Plant a tree 50. Make marmalade 51. Make a list of things to do 52. Write a letter to the editor 53. Volunteer somewhere 54. Take a hike 55. Take a college class 56. Try yoga 57. Meditate 58. Get a massage 59. Make fruit smoothies 60. Bake cookies 61. Do a crossword puzzle 62. Go to the gym 63. Plant a color bowl 64. Sharpen your pruning tools 65. Change your engine oil 66. Sew 67. Groom your dog 68. Go see a play 69. Write a sonnet 70. Sort your recipes 71. Play solitaire 72. Go bird watching 73. Write a letter to a friend 74. Read a poetry book 75. Repot your houseplants 76. Go to a movie 77. Mow your lawn 78. Put up (or take down) your Christmas lights 79. Make pickles 80. Go jogging 81. Watch sitcoms 82. Plan menus for a diet 83. Do a jigsaw puzzle 84. Play chess 85. Write a country-western song 86. Watch a video 87. Go for a bike ride 88. Plant an herb garden 89. Start an online journal 90. Dye your hair 91. Go to a restaurant 92. Lift weights 93. Bake some bread 94. Learn a martial art 95. Polish the furniture 96. Make a flower arrangement 97. Read the newspaper 98. Start some seeds 99. Sort your magazines 100. Do some laundry. 111. Take a nature walk 112. Play with your kids 113. Volunteer at a homeless shelter 114. Volunteer at a school 115. Pick up garbage in a park 116. Tickle your kids 117. Play basketball 118. Volunteer at an animal shelter 119. Read to a child or pet 120. Sign up for obedience training with your dog 121. Take a walk and pick up litter you see on the way 122. Spend time at the library 123. Sort all your digital photos and make an album to print for holiday gifts to family. 124. Help your kid organize his closet. 125. Figure out the melody and chords to your current favorite tune on the piano. 126. Practice your holiday cookie recipes 127. Make crackers from scratch (that one didn't go so well). 128. Make tortillas from scratch (better). 129. Reread a book you haven't read for years. 130. Tango 131. Learn about someone else’s religion. 132. Reread one of your college textbooks. 133. Key out a wildflower. 134. Do your nails. 135. Do word puzzles. 136. Play a board game. 137. Burn CD’s of some of your favorite music for a friend. 138. Plant a bonsai. 139. Play Mad Libs. 140. Speak only in heroic couplets for an hour. 141. Read poetry online. 142. Ride a stationary bicycle. 143. Set up a domino topple. 144. Play backgammon. 145. Build a house of cards 146. Make an entry in Wikipedia. 147. Read a world almanac. 148. Publish a family newsletter. 149. Throw cards at a hat. 150. Go to bed. __________________ |
I think like others have said its just that being on this site, you see it more. I also think that just being an alcoholic there is the risk of relapse. I think we are all suseptible to it, even if we all don't always relapse. It would be an ideal world if we all could just quit and be done with it, but by being here, we all know that is not the case. Just good to know that there is a website like this and others out there that we can come to for support. |
Oh and Carols list above makes me realize just how much stuff I have to do around my house! :) |
Great 'to do' list. The thing is,however, if we are doing all of the things on that list is doesn't necessarily mean we are not boring it just means we are busy. I actively seek a thousand and one things to do in my life presently because I am on only day 18 of my sobriety this time around. I did a thousand one things also when I drank. If one simply does 'things' as a means of alcohol avoidance or not being able to face oneself in silence, I believe you are setting yourself up for one hell of a bite on the arse one of these days. If, on the other hand, sober time has set one free and given one time to explore things that one has always had an interest in and with all the money you have saved as a result of not drinking - I say go for it! Explore your passions!:a122: |
August......:wavey: Welcome to SR and our Alcoholism Forum Please keep in focus...and keep posting here. Glad you are back on track! :hug: |
Originally Posted by eddie73
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It seems to me that there is a percentage or type of alcoholic that is more vunerable to relapse due to boredom and frustration. Is this true or just a figment of my imagination? None of them ever "triggered" the obsession that was lifted from me by my higher-power. |
I went to an AA meeting on Monday for the first time in nearly 2 yrs (I only went the first couple of months I was sober) and there were a handful of newcomers at the meeting as it was a NC meeting. Every one of those newcomers when it was there turn to talk started out with "this time" each of them had been in and out of AA a couple of times; and I think most of the "oldtimers" that talked related stories of relapse as well. So apprently relapse is about the # 1 cause of drinking.... and from all the stories I've ever heard it does seem that people start to thinking "well I've been sober this long I could probably just have 1". I have little patience, and no sympathy, for those relapse even though I know I could one day be in their shoes. |
Originally Posted by eddie73
(Post 2344677)
It seems to me that there is a percentage or type of alcoholic that is more vunerable to relapse due to boredom and frustration. To my ears, boredom and frustration sounds a lot like restless, irritable, and discontent. Alcohol was my solution, not my problem. My problem has always been me. I try to wrest satisfaction out of life by making the world conform to my desires. And when it doesn't, it doesn't feel fun. It seems boring. And I get frustrated. And irritable. I don't know if it's the cause or effect of alcoholism, but I don't relate to life very well. In fact, the way I relate to life is sure to lead me to drinking again. So I had to have a profound alteration in my reaction to life. This is exactly what AA's 12 steps promised me. And it's exactly what I got when I took those steps. Further, my reaction stays this way as long as I'm practicing the principles of those steps. I'm guessing that people who relapse after a long time either never had a profound alteration in their reaction to life, or they let that alteration slip away by not practicing these principles. |
I just figured it out...ignorance is bliss. |
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