Drinking Mouthwash=How Dangerous?

[littlebluedog]

I believe it is the doctors job is to make my withdrawal easier

'fraid there's so such thing as an easy withdrawal.

I know it doesn't seem like it, but it will get better. You just have to go through it. A lot of people here have and I know it's scary, but if you just get it over with, once and for all, you never, ever, ever have to do it again.

[tiburon88]

If it's truely a disease the doctors need to treat it as such. I am entitled to a safe and comfortable detox. What's so wrong with that? I don't want to feel anxious from the withdrawal. These ER doctors treat me like garbage. I don't even get my own room! I'm just placed in the hallway. Maybe I deserve a discount rate when I get my bill. Why should I suffer needlessly? I guess that's what I deserve being an "alcoholic."


tiburon

[FightingIrish]

when i had spinal surgery i didn't get my own room.

[tiburon88]

Originally Posted by FightingIrish

when i had spinal surgery i didn't get my own room.

I would of demanded my own room for that surgery. That's typical of American heath care though. I guess that would be off topic. I need to concentrate on my animosity towards ER doctors and nurses. When a patient asks for a certain drug that's what he/she should get. The consumer is always right. Why should I pay a $1500 hospital bill if I didn't even receive the correct services?

tiburon

[FightingIrish]

I think you get your own room if you decide to pay for all the beds in that room. Pretty sure that's how that works.

[littlebluedog]

Why even ask for advice if you just come up with an excuse for every suggestion?
It seems to me you're going to do what you want anyhow. Please get help Tib. I'm pullin' for you.

[Trippstar]

Im going to admit it, I drank aftershave before and puked uploads of blood never done that again. Go to ER safest place for you if you're in a bad way.

[suki44883]

As has been said here many, many times...If you really want to get sober and live a sober life, you have to make it your number one priority in life and do whatever is necessary. Excuses just keep you stagnant. Nothing changes if nothing changes. You know all this. If you have a buttload of money, you can go to a fancy detox center and then on to a fancy rehab center. If you don't, you're going to have to do it the way most of us did. You're going to have to get down and dirty and do whatever is necessary to get better. No pain, no gain. Good luck to you.

[Rad44]

When a patient asks for a certain drug that's what he/she should get. The consumer is always right

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Oh this is rich. Why don't they just give you a blank perscription pad and let you fill out what you want? I think I want 5,000 Oxycontin and two liters of Morphine.

[Katie09]

When a patient asks for a certain drug that's what he/she should get. The consumer is always right

Oh this is rich. Why don't they just give you a blank perscription pad and let you fill out what you want? I think I want 5,000 Oxycontin and two liters of Morphine.

Methinks this is how Michael Jackson died. Yes, I would love, love, love to be able to write my own scripts, but I am very grateful I cannot.

[least]

Sorry Tib but it sounds like a lot of excuses as to why you should always get your own way. That makes it hard to stay sober, cause in life you can't always get what you want, but if you try sometimes, you'll find, you get what you need. Just stop drinking Tib, you're going to do yourself harm if you keep on going in this direction.

[matt88]

I went to the ER once after drinking steady for a few days. Yes, it was my experience that the doctors don't really take you serious unless you're missing a limb or bleeding profusely or have a bullet wound or something like that. They think "this person is coming to the ER with a hangover". In a way it's part inexperience with dealing with withdrawal, alcholism, and substance abuse on their part. Few people really understand how serious withdrawal can be. But of course, detox centers and rehab facilities have doctors who do understand how serious withdrawal can be. If I had to have DT's again, I'd go to one of those nice rehabs that look more like a vacation resort - ha!

[tiburon88]

I usually request 4mg of Ativan in an IV. I usually get it too because the docs don't want to get me riled up. Once in a while though I'll get a doctor/nurse who refuse to give me what I need. I even threaten to sue them. Call me a baby or whatever but I admit I'm very demanding when I need to detox.


tiburon

[suki44883]

Originally Posted by tiburon88

I usually request 4mg of Ativan in an IV. I usually get it too because the docs don't want to get me riled up. Once in a while though I'll get a doctor/nurse who refuse to give me what I need. I even threaten to sue them. Call me a baby or whatever but I admit I'm very demanding when I need to detox.

tiburon

When you get serious about living sober, let us know.

[tiburon88]

Originally Posted by suki44883

When you get serious about living sober, let us know.

When you dispense some helpful advice let me know.


tiburon

[least]

There's been lots and lots of helpful advice dispensed already, you choose to ignore it or give excuses why it won't work for you. I hope you get serious about getting and staying sober - and soon. Alcoholism will kill you if you let it.

[suki44883]

As has been said here many, many times...If you really want to get sober and live a sober life, you have to make it your number one priority in life and do whatever is necessary. Excuses just keep you stagnant. If nothing changes, nothing changes. You know all this. If you have a buttload of money, you can go to a fancy detox center and then on to a fancy rehab center. If you don't, you're going to have to do it the way most of us did. You're going to have to get down and dirty and do whatever is necessary to get better. No pain, no gain. Good luck to you.

If you aren't willing to do the hard work, no one can help you, Tib. It would be in your own best interests to do that work instead of being so defensive about your drinking.

[FightingIrish]

Do you have something in mind? Sounds like you do, but none of us seems able to guess what that might be.

Originally Posted by tiburon88

When you dispense some helpful advice let me know.


tiburon

[crzylilmndfreak]

Originally Posted by tiburon88

Hey everyone I'm still here and usually drunk as a skunk. I hit a new low. I know, I know the advice will be: see a doctor. It was 5AM & I couldn't buy booze so I bought a big bottle of Listerine mouthwash and chugged the whole thing. Has anyone ever done this before? I'm getting sharp pains on my right side & don't feel right at all. On a side note if I just drink mouthwash is that considered a relapse? The drunk I got off the mouthwash was very weird and didn't seem like a usually drunk. I got some meds to help me detox and will be doing it soon. I'm only 32 & I feel like alcohol is starting to physically kill me. Mentally it beat me down years ago. Just curious if anyone else resorted to mouthwash to get drunk. I feel like I'm watching a train wreck in slow motion and just can't stop it.

tiburon "10 years of Alcoholism and still going"

what exactly are you looking for, because many people here have allready stated whether or not they've drank mouthwash

**********I know, i know the advice will be: see a doctor***********

[Em002]

Originally Posted by tiburon88

I usually request 4mg of Ativan in an IV. I usually get it too because the docs don't want to get me riled up. Once in a while though I'll get a doctor/nurse who refuse to give me what I need. I even threaten to sue them. Call me a baby or whatever but I admit I'm very demanding when I need to detox.


tiburon

You can't now sue anyone for not giving you the specific drug you want. Doctors or nurses can't just give you what you want. To walk into an ER and demand x amount of any narcotic, like saying 4 mg of ativan IV you will be labeled automatically as a drug seeker like you are. I saw my doctor when I was in withdrawal asked for help saying I wanted to stop and he gave me valium pills for a few days to make it through. If i just walked in and said I am an alcoholic looking to stop drinking can you give me 4 mg of ativan IV he would have said no. Sometimes you can't always get exactly what you want but you could get help. Good luck to you.

[Katie09]

Tib, just an observation, but I sense that you are angry and I'm not sure if it's directed at posters who have tried to be helpful or not. I can relate to a feeling of defensiveness, as I've felt that way here too.

You must realize that this issue is HUGE and that Drs. are just trying to practice good medicine. They must think of liability issues. Likewise, I really think there are posters in this thread who care about your well being, as we all battle the same demon on a regular basis - some with more success than others and I don't put me in the success category.

Anyway, I know this whole getting sober business can be very and super hard.

[tiburon88]

Katie I can relate a lot to your posts so thank you for posting. I think u can understand where I'm coming from most times.

tiburon

[smacked]

The right and ability to destroy one's own life is a luxury.

So many people in this world would give their own lives for the opportunities you might have in front of you.

It's unfortunate, but absolutely your right to live the way you want.

[tiburon88]

Originally Posted by smacked

The right and ability to destroy one's own life is a luxury.

So many people in this world would give their own lives for the opportunities you might have in front of you.

It's unfortunate, but absolutely your right to live the way you want.

What opportunities? You know my life from reading a message board? The right to destroy your life isn't a luxury but sometimes destiny.

tiburon

[tallcactus]

Tiburon,
I have not been a member of SR for that long, actually just joined last month. I love this site and come often, but never had I read a post that made me as angry as yours.
I'am a RN that has worked the ER and let me tell you a few things.
We get many drunk or stoned patients daily, or even hourly. Some are seeking honest help and advice and are compliant with there care, but most of these patients are you. They come in demanding, cursing, stinking, foulmouthed, peeing/pooping and expect us to clean up after them; thinking that we own them. They want this and they want that, "now." They scream "I'll sue you." (ahh, give me a f#%king break.) They want something to eat, to drink, they want free clothes, free medication, etc, the list goes on and on. Half the time you have to watch him or her, since they will try to steal whatever isn't locked or chained down.
You talk about paying your bill! Be honest here, do you? Do you have insurance or is it our tax dollars suppling your free insurance. (I have to pay my own insurance, it isn't free and is taken out of my check.)
All the ER's in town know you and yes, you are labeled and yes, it is well deserved, you earned it. I have a lot of compassion and I truely care, but patients like you, abuse the system, they drive our healthcare costs up, since most do not pay!
Ahhh, I feel better. And I meant every word, since you deserved it. Grown up, no one owes you a thing. Act your age, get a spine, stop you whining. Come up with a plan to get well or to die, the choose is yours.