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Kasia9752 · 04-28-2006, 02:16 PM

Hungry, Angry, Lonely,Tired! Any one alone when you are new can send you out and even when you are a long timer they can send you out again. I admit its not the single alone for me but hit me with a combination of them and its a great scenario for a slip.

Yesterday was one of those times; I was frustrated with the Spanish class situation, had not slept well so I was tired, and its the tail end of the month which means no money for the foods I like snacking on , nuts and fruits. Splitting headache, and it wasn't sugar. So I hit the sack and had to be up today at 7:30 am and did so, minus the headache but have done nothing but run since. Out for breakfast which should have been findished with by 11 am, Hah!! Got home at 12:30 and had a 1 pm pick-up scheduled for a 1:30 urologis'ts appointment. The Medicare Part D new plan forced me to switch to a generic medication instead of what I had been taking for the MS caused and inherited bladder issues. The generic didn't work! Lets just say I had siveral "incident's" including out at breakfast today and finally got the meidcation issues resolved so am back on my originally prescribed medication. Thank GOD?HP for the teachings of HALT and thank you Bill W and Dr. Bob for when issues like this arrise. And the rest of my easter came in the mail today, which will resolve the food issue a $200 gift card for Wegman's an upscale grocery which I love and can't affort but it is the, preferred by me and willingly given by my folks, gift for easter belly Button Birthday, which is September, and Xmas. So rather than buying grocery's for my household when staying there as they do with my other sisters I get the gift card and I am a happy camper and they don't feel like I am not being treated the same as my three younger sisters.

The thing is that without the many ODAATS of recovery behind me none of this would be possible and more than likely I would either be six foot under or a wet brain dependent on the government.

Kasia

**CarolD** · 04-29-2006, 12:47 AM

Hello Kasia...Welcome !..

Each time I drank again after starting AA...and there were many!..
at least 2 of the HALT elements were there.
Thanks for the reminder.

Blessings...

**Peter** · 04-29-2006, 07:03 AM

Yup, and very often it only takes one to fuel the other three.

If I get HUNGRYI tend to become irritable which can lead to ANGER.

People react to my irritability, then when I get ANGRY I get LONELY because now nobody wants to be around an angry person.

Then I get TIRED because when I am in a bad mood I have trouble sleeping.

It can be a vicious cycle.

Little Missy · 04-29-2006, 07:48 AM

HALT helps remind me to take care of my basic needs. At home, I tend to forget to eat. Then I start to not feel so well and the cycle starts as Peter said.

fraankie · 04-29-2006, 11:13 AM

good post

Rusty Zipper · 05-02-2006, 03:29 AM

hello d'er kAS.... (...).. Glad you made it over. you think we have a bunch at RU, wait til ya get a gander at the SR peeps... Kas, "HALT"...is that when you get in your BR&R mode? { ***** rant & rave}...... yikes!!!....

for me, when the tired mode kicks in, it can go either way...i can be as gentle as can be... or look'y out.... i get the CO & (_|_) { cranky, ornery, and act like a ass }... fire up the Jazzy, pick me up, and lets go eat.... we can take care of two out'a the four of the HALT's...

Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!... all good wishes Kas, and of course, teach only love..................... your pal, Rusty { Pattee }

Kasia9752 · 05-02-2006, 10:41 AM

<G>, Thanks I found the bus today; and the new upgrade appears to be doing a good job of taking out pages for its not being displayed even in IE when I joined the bus here for the NEWBIES--Alkie rex I may be but am a still growing!

Kasia

dollhouse · 07-19-2006, 10:51 AM

Hello,Kasia.H.A.L.T is a very important part of our recovery.Sometimes we foget that.For me if i get myself into any one of these things it is defently not good for me .Thanx for the great post.Keep coming back.

Rusty Zipper · 07-21-2006, 07:19 PM

dollhouse, yes H.A.L.T. is real important...its useualy the lack of food, and burn'n to much daylight that gets me...xxoo, bless, Rusty

**CarolD** · 07-21-2006, 08:28 PM

I added S too
for Sad.

Depression is why I started AA
so I wanted to keep checking on it.

miss communicat · 07-21-2006, 09:28 PM

thanks for this reminder. I had a huge reminder tonight of how inportant taking the mini-inventory is on a daily basis. I was/am overtired, which, as Peter said, leads to lack of energy to even eat properly, which leads to more irritability and anger. Then I want to isolate....

and a drink looks really great. I had this happen tonight. I started thinking I would LOVE a glass of wine and put my feet up. i deserve it. bla bla bla....

Luckily. I checked in, took my sobriety "pulse" and discovered I was tired. and hungry.

After eating and resting, the thoughts of wrecking my life with a glass of wine that I definitely do NOT deserve faded away.

One more day at a time.Phew!

miss communicat · 07-21-2006, 09:34 PM

Carol,

Yes. "S" is great for Stress, too.
Now, I think we got: HALTSS

**CarolD** · 07-21-2006, 09:36 PM

Wow Miss C....

Good for you!!

Edmundo30 · 07-22-2006, 08:42 PM

the whole 'HALT' thing is a lie..

Did anyone here ever drink when they weren't hungry?

Did anyone here ever drink when they were happy?

Did anyone ever drink when they were not alone?

Did everyone ever drink after they had an afternoon nap?

If any of these questions leaves you with a "yes" answer, chances are that HALT may not prevent you from an alcoholic mind that will tell you to drink even though you dont want to.

miss communicat · 07-22-2006, 09:01 PM

huh?

Rusty Zipper · 07-24-2006, 08:15 PM

IMO ... thats in recovery (_|_). any or all get us nerved up, then what... we Drink, Drug... then Die, or put everbody else around us through another living Hell!

Patrick

collinsmi · 07-24-2006, 09:18 PM

I agree Edmundo. I get hungry, angry, lonely or tired fairly regularly and have since I quit drinking, yet I don't pick up. When I'm hungry, I get something to eat. When I'm tired, I take a nap. Lonely? I call someone. Maybe read the big book, or some comments on here. Angry? Time for some 10th step work!!! Early on, I'd whine to my sponsor about some of those things, and he'd invariably say "that's fine, what are you doing about the step you're on?".

I drank because I loved drinking, anything else was just a justification I made so I would feel more comfortable picking up.

People I see relapse usually disappear from meetings and quit step work first. Maybe doing step work and meetings allowed you to feel crappy and still not pick up, Kasia. This program works in good times and bad, regardless of any circumstances other than not doing it.

04-28-2006, 02:16 PM	#1 (permalink)
Kasia9752 Paused Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jamestown NY Posts: 30	Halt Hungry, Angry, Lonely,Tired! Any one alone when you are new can send you out and even when you are a long timer they can send you out again. I admit its not the single alone for me but hit me with a combination of them and its a great scenario for a slip. Yesterday was one of those times; I was frustrated with the Spanish class situation, had not slept well so I was tired, and its the tail end of the month which means no money for the foods I like snacking on , nuts and fruits. Splitting headache, and it wasn't sugar. So I hit the sack and had to be up today at 7:30 am and did so, minus the headache but have done nothing but run since. Out for breakfast which should have been findished with by 11 am, Hah!! Got home at 12:30 and had a 1 pm pick-up scheduled for a 1:30 urologis'ts appointment. The Medicare Part D new plan forced me to switch to a generic medication instead of what I had been taking for the MS caused and inherited bladder issues. The generic didn't work! Lets just say I had siveral "incident's" including out at breakfast today and finally got the meidcation issues resolved so am back on my originally prescribed medication. Thank GOD?HP for the teachings of HALT and thank you Bill W and Dr. Bob for when issues like this arrise. And the rest of my easter came in the mail today, which will resolve the food issue a $200 gift card for Wegman's an upscale grocery which I love and can't affort but it is the, preferred by me and willingly given by my folks, gift for easter belly Button Birthday, which is September, and Xmas. So rather than buying grocery's for my household when staying there as they do with my other sisters I get the gift card and I am a happy camper and they don't feel like I am not being treated the same as my three younger sisters. The thing is that without the many ODAATS of recovery behind me none of this would be possible and more than likely I would either be six foot under or a wet brain dependent on the government. Kasia

04-29-2006, 12:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
CarolD Forum Leader Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Serene In Dixie Posts: 34,835	Hello Kasia...Welcome !.. Each time I drank again after starting AA...and there were many!.. at least 2 of the HALT elements were there. Thanks for the reminder. Blessings... __________________ Each Day Sober Is A Victory!! Joy In AA Recovery!

04-29-2006, 07:48 AM	#4 (permalink)
Little Missy NOT EVEN 1 CLUB!! Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: When I find myself, I'll let you know! Posts: 1,835	HALT helps remind me to take care of my basic needs. At home, I tend to forget to eat. Then I start to not feel so well and the cycle starts as Peter said. __________________ May all your days be filled with love and laughter!

05-02-2006, 03:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
Rusty Zipper Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: my room in ct. Posts: 34,755	hello d'er kAS.... (...).. Glad you made it over. you think we have a bunch at RU, wait til ya get a gander at the SR peeps... Kas, "HALT"...is that when you get in your BR&R mode? { *** rant & rave}...... yikes!!!.... for me, when the tired mode kicks in, it can go either way...i can be as gentle as can be... or look'y out.... i get the CO & (_\|_) { cranky, ornery, and act like a ass }... fire up the Jazzy, pick me up, and lets go eat.... we can take care of two out'a the four of the HALT's... Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!... all good wishes Kas, and of course, teach only love..................... your pal, Rusty { Pattee } __________________ Rule 62**

07-21-2006, 07:19 PM	#9 (permalink)
Rusty Zipper Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: my room in ct. Posts: 34,755	dollhouse, yes H.A.L.T. is real important...its useualy the lack of food, and burn'n to much daylight that gets me...xxoo, bless, Rusty __________________ *Rule 62*

04-29-2006, 07:03 AM	#3 (permalink)
Peter Moderator Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Leaving Sparta Posts: 2,931	Yup, and very often it only takes one to fuel the other three. If I get HUNGRYI tend to become irritable which can lead to ANGER. People react to my irritability, then when I get ANGRY I get LONELY because now nobody wants to be around an angry person. Then I get TIRED because when I am in a bad mood I have trouble sleeping. It can be a vicious cycle.

04-29-2006, 11:13 AM	#5 (permalink)
fraankie Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: brooklyn, new york Posts: 1,395	good post

05-02-2006, 10:41 AM	#7 (permalink)
Kasia9752 Paused Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Jamestown NY Posts: 30	<G>, Thanks I found the bus today; and the new upgrade appears to be doing a good job of taking out pages for its not being displayed even in IE when I joined the bus here for the NEWBIES--Alkie rex I may be but am a still growing! Kasia

07-19-2006, 10:51 AM	#8 (permalink)
dollhouse dollhouse Join Date: May 2006 Location: hamilton,ontario Posts: 39	Hello,Kasia.H.A.L.T is a very important part of our recovery.Sometimes we foget that.For me if i get myself into any one of these things it is defently not good for me .Thanx for the great post.Keep coming back.

07-21-2006, 08:28 PM	#10 (permalink)
CarolD Forum Leader Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Serene In Dixie Posts: 34,835	I added S too for Sad. Depression is why I started AA so I wanted to keep checking on it. __________________ Each Day Sober Is A Victory!! Joy In AA Recovery!

07-21-2006, 09:28 PM	#11 (permalink)
miss communicat Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in the present moment Posts: 2,061	thanks for this reminder. I had a huge reminder tonight of how inportant taking the mini-inventory is on a daily basis. I was/am overtired, which, as Peter said, leads to lack of energy to even eat properly, which leads to more irritability and anger. Then I want to isolate.... and a drink looks really great. I had this happen tonight. I started thinking I would LOVE a glass of wine and put my feet up. i deserve it. bla bla bla.... Luckily. I checked in, took my sobriety "pulse" and discovered I was tired. and hungry. After eating and resting, the thoughts of wrecking my life with a glass of wine that I definitely do NOT deserve faded away. One more day at a time.Phew! __________________ i close my eyes and see clearly i stop trying to listen and hear truth i am silent and my heart sings i seek no contact and find union i am still and move forward i am gentle and need no strength i am humble and remain whole (ancient taoist meditation)

07-21-2006, 09:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
miss communicat Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in the present moment Posts: 2,061	Carol, Yes. "S" is great for Stress, too. Now, I think we got: HALTSS __________________ i close my eyes and see clearly i stop trying to listen and hear truth i am silent and my heart sings i seek no contact and find union i am still and move forward i am gentle and need no strength i am humble and remain whole (ancient taoist meditation)

07-21-2006, 09:36 PM	#13 (permalink)
CarolD Forum Leader Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Serene In Dixie Posts: 34,835	Wow Miss C.... Good for you!! __________________ Each Day Sober Is A Victory!! Joy In AA Recovery!

07-22-2006, 08:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
Edmundo30 Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Laredo, Texas Posts: 29	the whole 'HALT' thing is a lie.. Did anyone here ever drink when they weren't hungry? Did anyone here ever drink when they were happy? Did anyone ever drink when they were not alone? Did everyone ever drink after they had an afternoon nap? If any of these questions leaves you with a "yes" answer, chances are that HALT may not prevent you from an alcoholic mind that will tell you to drink even though you dont want to.

07-22-2006, 09:01 PM	#15 (permalink)
miss communicat Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: in the present moment Posts: 2,061	huh? __________________ i close my eyes and see clearly i stop trying to listen and hear truth i am silent and my heart sings i seek no contact and find union i am still and move forward i am gentle and need no strength i am humble and remain whole (ancient taoist meditation)

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07-24-2006, 08:15 PM	#16 (permalink)
Rusty Zipper Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: my room in ct. Posts: 34,755	IMO ... thats in recovery (_\|_). any or all get us nerved up, then what... we Drink, Drug... then Die, or put everbody else around us through another living Hell! Patrick __________________ *Rule 62*

07-24-2006, 09:18 PM	#17 (permalink)
collinsmi Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Colorado Springs CO Posts: 889	I agree Edmundo. I get hungry, angry, lonely or tired fairly regularly and have since I quit drinking, yet I don't pick up. When I'm hungry, I get something to eat. When I'm tired, I take a nap. Lonely? I call someone. Maybe read the big book, or some comments on here. Angry? Time for some 10th step work!!! Early on, I'd whine to my sponsor about some of those things, and he'd invariably say "that's fine, what are you doing about the step you're on?". I drank because I loved drinking, anything else was just a justification I made so I would feel more comfortable picking up. People I see relapse usually disappear from meetings and quit step work first. Maybe doing step work and meetings allowed you to feel crappy and still not pick up, Kasia. This program works in good times and bad, regardless of any circumstances other than not doing it. __________________ "I was violating my standards faster than I could lower them!"

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