Why I Came To Sr

[BikerBill8]

Hi Everone, WHY I came hereTo SR and stayed because the people here were cool and they didn't bash people here. They acepted you with open arms here even at the time A hard core Biker trash like i was. People here showed me love and respect and i felt at home here and lately if someone here doesn't like what someone post they bash them and try to get them band here. I don't like it at ALL. I AM Realy thinking about leaveing here for good Because all of this **** here. I will stay until T2S returns from NJ and if this site doesn't clean it's act up i won't be here no more. So stop all of this bull.
LET LIVE AND LIVE.

[Chy]

Thanks Bill I'm right there with ya!

[Cap3]

Thanks for sharring where your at BB8.I can toally understand,been there too.Im not leaving,though,unless others have others plans for me..smile..and i get banned.Naw,ive ran all my life before recovery programs.And it never changed another person.it only changed me.I got mader and mader.It was i that needed to change.Life on lifes terms.The bashing folks,the uplifting folks,i read about here,are pretty much the same type of folks,i met up with on a daily basis. .Inside or outside of the rooms.So if i continued to walk away,or just go,,like i did in my past,where am i going?Im going to run into the very same type of folks that i just got away from.So,i eventually stoped,and started to use program,more.How can i be part of the solution?Or even can i?There are many stages to recovery.,here and in the rooms.Everyone here is my ..teacher..and for that im very grateful.I don't control others.Live and let live.Pray for the bashers,they at this time don't know differently,but if they are working on some form of recovery,they soon,will know/learn differently,as i myself too,learned..Not fogetting where i came from...Its all about progress..,for me..The folks that are bashing the most,need love,, .I know i do.It was when i was hurting the most,that i bashed others,in early recovery,and before,recovery..Keep the faith....its all a learning experience.For everyone.
Unity....Fellowship..

[CAPTAINZING2000]

Bill,

I'm just gettin to know you man. Place wouldn't be as good as site w/o you brother.

I said this on another site I was on. We all know each other after a while. We can all come down on one another w/o meaning to hurt each other. Sometimes though, you kick me in my A$$ and make me see somethin I hadn't b 4.
I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me. We still need to respect each other and help each other and the next person coming into S/R seek the help they need.

i found ths site by accident in Nov. I was searching for something else and ta da there this great site was.

I'll never know if, I've touched someone or helped in anyway but, each and everyone on here touches me everyday. The people that come in struggling to hold on when all seems lost to the person with 16 years like CarolD.

We all float together or, we all sink alone. This site doesn't need me as much as I need it but, we all need each other. Believe it or not, this is the only way I'm outgoing. I didn't know I was a loner until I came into AA.

We all earned our place in here. None of us came into this by winning a lotto.


chris

[KelKel]

(((Bill)))
Bill I know I speak for others as well as myself.... you are a much valued person here at SR....
I feel like what has been happening here as of late is a storm that will pass... I am protecting myself from negative energy by avoiding certain threads and not even bothering to read posts by folks who seem intent on spreading their negative and non-supportive views.
This place helped to save my life when I was lower than low. I am weathering the storm, for I know in my heart that if I choose to not give my energy away in negative spaces, eventually those negative spaces will have to go elsewhere to share doom and gloom... There is still much beauty and harmony here... it is just a little harder to see at times.... kinda like life in general.

May the circle of Love & Light engulf us all.....



To Ghandi, it was integral that people always speak their truth but he also believed that, "One should speak the truth in gentle language."

As Ghandi taught, we can be powerful and loving. We can speak our personal truth in a way that spreads enlightenment.

[Paulie]

I would miss your experience alot.

I think IMO it is about respect. It is easy to disrespect someone when you can't see their face.

You are not the only one that feels that way unfortunately.

[jlo34]

This is what I don't understand...
1. I don't understand why people with strong messages and good things to say are being banned.
2. I don't understand why people that decide they don't like somebody and egg them on and build the fires are NOT banned.

Why does anyone need to be banned at all? Why can't we harmoniously "get along". This is an "unofficial" AA site. What happened to the 12 steps and 12 traditions? Are we not practicing them in all of our daily affairs? Do we have to act as young teenagers and trash one another?

SERVE, UNITE, RECOVER. Our three legacies. Lately, I haven't seen too much of any of these on this board.

CUNNING, BAFFLING, POWERFUL. Our disease. The things I've read here lately. Where is the compassion? Where is the unconditional love for our fellow alcoholic? "We will love you until you can love yourself". Does everyone love themselves so much they can't love others?

I really miss the love and strength I use to see on these boards. This negativity keeps snowballing to the point where I don't really want anything to do with this site anymore. I keep coming back though, because I've made some fantastic friends here. Friends who reached their hand out to me when I was in pain. Remember, the hand of AA, when someone needs it, I want it to be there, and for that I am responsible?

What's the solution? Finding the key of willingness (step 3, 12&12). First we need to find the key of willingness, shed the animosity, anger, rage, and resentment. Open the door to freedom, and be embraced by the love and fellowship of AA. Remembering our primary purpose is to stay sober and help other alcoholics to achieve sobriety (not getting banned from this site!!). Remembering how we are/were early in sobriety. Remembering our growth moments and pains. Having empathy towards others and not judging and assuming.

I'm not going to say I am perfect. I am not going to say or deny that I haven't gotten into it with a few people here. I have made amends both on the post I offended on and personally PM'd those that I had offended. We are not saints. We are not perfect. We make mistakes. Ok, let's start forgiving and start fresh. AA has blessed me with a new chance at life. A life so beautiful I can't begin to put into words what this program has done for me, without crying tears of gratitude. I have been blessed.

I enjoy coming here and reading others experiences, strengths, and hopes. I enjoy getting to know people from all over the world. It's beautiful to watch people grow (even in cyberville!!).

Just some ideas and my own opinions...
I'll be quiet for now...
Jen

[CAPTAINZING2000]

Jen

u don't have to be quiet

[BikerBill8]

Thank's all, I came here back in April of 2003 i had you sell my computer and i was not here every day since then but would stop in to let people know that i was still Sober and to say hi to everyone here. I guess some people need to put people down just to feel good about themselves. I hope people can just get along here.

[CAPTAINZING2000]

Bill,
we pray harder for those people then the rest. We're all sick in here some are sicker then others. Some are there as a reminder there but for the Grace of God go I.
Lead by example, be a light for others to follow. We lead the way as others have lead the way before us.

Try to remember, no one has any power over us except the man up stairs unless, we give it to them



chris

[Andy F]

I like it when someone PM's me directly and says 'I have a problem with you' or 'I don't understand why you said this'. I prefer it to all the inferred/implied stuff where innocent people are probably turning paranoid.

I think the complaining about the arguments ends up with the same collective weight as the arguing being complained about and sometimes is really more arguing dressed up as a call for order.

[Gooch]

I know what you mean about wanting to just turn around and hit the road looking for somewhere else that restores your hope in humanity.

I like the analogy about being the hand that reaches out to help pull the next drunk up.

only sometimes I read threads by guys I know have more goin on than that.. they've been around for years and practically memorized the book frontwards and backwards, and while they reavh the hand out toward one drunk and do help out, it looks sometimes like they are reaching a hand out to another AA'er that also has some time and then pulling their hand back as if to say .. "only kidding... I can't help you cuz you have a different perspective than me"

Theres one in every crowd, sometimes a couple at a service meeting, and maybe a bakers dozen here. It's hard to bear spiritual principles in mind when your dealing with snipers and vipers.

I hope you don't leave SR.... But i'll understand if you do, I'll know that wherever you go you'll be living proof of the 12 steps in action.

[Dan]

There's a thread somewhere called 'Solutions'.
I bet if we all show up for a dialogue, so called vipers and eggers on, and look at eachother through something other than our own narrow perception window, we might actually get somewhere.

Bill, I'm just glad you have more computer time now.
I used to see you pop in here and there last year.
Cool.

I think we're making progress and what I'm seeing, that is encouraging, is a group effort to make things better. I think a little more effort needs to be put into passing by the posts that trigger and staying with our experience, strength, and hope when posting instead of debating another person's opinion. In my experience here there will always be a person who tries to ruffle feathers. I've also had to learn to pass over those posts and just post my experience on the other forums. It's not always easy and I don't always control my emotions, but I'm practicing. It's especially hard when I feel that someone has been treated wrong.

I'm learning from others that a kind post involving my experience works much better that debating with another person. I'm learning to be comfortable in my own skin and not feel as if I have to defend myself or even defend someone else.

I hope we all continue to make progress and grow through these triggers and learn tolerance and patience and a better way of communication.

I hope you stick around Bill. It was so good to see you back.

Hugs,
MG

[CAPTAINZING2000]

Bill how about that??? Everyone wants you to stay. I always got asked to leave

I remember when it was like that too Bill, and I can relate to your feelings. More people now, more variety, more everything...

I was sad when you left the first time, I'd be sad now too. Keep taking care of you tho man.