I'm with Chris...

[NoMoBeer]

In case no one read my response to Chris' thread.

I have to go into lurk mode as well. This is just not healthy for my program, seeing damage and crap being slung in every direction.... not for this alkie.

I think I work a pretty good program -- for me. It is and never will be my intent to come in here and tell everyone what they are feeling, doing, believing and learning is all wrong. I'm not a preacher, I'm just a drunk trying to stay sober with other drunks. I keep it simple, try to follow the 'suggestions' made in the BB, and take it a day at a time.

If I were to go to a meeting, and there was a guy like EdLova in there, I simply would not go to that meeting anymore. Since there does not seem to be a way to escape him here, I'm better off just sitting out for a while...

Ken

[Dan]

I ignore EdLova to the best of my ability.
I ignore EdLova to the best of my ability.
I ignore EdLova to the best of my ability.
I ignore EdLova to the best of my ability.
I ignore EdLova to the best of my ability.

Etc...

Flip the switch in your CP Ken.
Don't go.

[CAPTAINZING2000]

LMAO


we can't even hear each other talk on here. We can skim past a posters reply or, their post. We don't get to pick who we share the planet with.

Matter of fact the worlds a lot better off with only one me.

I have gotten some good advice from some of the people I've disliked the most in AA.
You know the drill, take what you want and leave the rest.

Everyone in here earned their spot. No one cane take that away from you

[mackat]

cap'n is right here. i do get to choose what i will take with me.

however, to begin to insist that religion, any religion or lack of religion, is the summation of AA is to be as disrespectful of our heritage as someone coming into AA and insisting that SA or CA or OA must be what this is about-

the same traditions which apply to 'purity of message' apply here as well.

and yes , taking another's inventory, giving unsolicited advice, publically demeaning another struggling person are rarely practiced and never tolerated in the rooms which i go to.
there is quite a community of us who pm each other about many of the inflaming issues which are aired here.

i strongly urge newcomers who have questions and are repelled or humiliated by a few dipsticks , to pm those core individuals whose posts DO NOT represent this behavior

[lulu70]

Hey Ken--please see my post on Chris' thread and don't go!!!!

[findinganewme]

ya know ... I'm beginning to think it's me ....

I just joined and so many are leaving! Was it something I said (lol)

On a serious note, as I said to Chris .... your presence here has helped many ..... the short time I've been here has truly been an amazing learning experience.

As a newcomer I fear giving advice or even voicing my opinion, because I am so green at this .... just three weeks of sobriety. However, if I feel strongly about someone or their demeaning or judgemental opinion ... or perhaps pushing someone away that needs our advice or help, then I will say what I can to help. Yes, I've seen some harsh writing here, but I suppose I, too, have got to walk away with what helps me and not focus on those opinions with which I disagree.

Please consider staying!

Maria

[EdLova]

Originally Posted by DangerousDan

I ignore EdLova to the best of my ability.
I ignore EdLova to the best of my ability.
I ignore EdLova to the best of my ability.
I ignore EdLova to the best of my ability.
I ignore EdLova to the best of my ability.

Etc...

Flip the switch in your CP Ken.
Don't go.

Try this:

Column 1-

I am resentful at: EdLova


Column 2-

The cause: ?

Column 3-

Effects my: Self Esteem?(How EdLova sees me?)
Pride? (How should everyone see me?)
Security? (What do I need from EdLova to be OK)
Ambitions? (What do I want from/for EdLova)
Pocketbook? (What price has it cost me?)
Sex relations? (What are my belief systems of how the other should be/ treat me/ eachother?)
Personal relations? (What should EdLova be?)

Colmun 4

Where have I been dishonest?
Where have I been afraid?
Where have I been selfish?

What harm did I create?

Do I owe an amends?

What is my realization? can I consider that perhaps the people who wrong me are perhaps spiritually sick? Can I ask God to show me the love patience and tolerance I would cheerfully granty a sick friend?



The 4th column will now turn everything in the f1st, 2nd and 3rd into a BIG BIG LIE

[Dan]

What color is the sky Ed?

[minnie]

Right or happy, guys?

I always wary about coming up here in case I get hit by the toys flying out of prams!

Does it really do any of you any good to get yourselves so wound up by each other? Take what you like and leave (ignore?) the rest. Surely it's dangerous to test your recovery in such a way?

Oh, what do I know, I'm off back downstairs. It's simpler, in a bizarre way.

Toodle pip!

Love

Minnie
xxx

[KelKel]

Who's Edlova?

[justEllen]

For anyone who doesn't know, the way to flip the switch that Dan suggested is just to go to the top of the page here, click on "User CP" at the left. Then on the page that comes up, scroll way to the bottom and under the topic "Miscellaneous" click on "Edit buddy/ignore list". That will give you a page where you can type in EdLova in the "Ignore" list and voila! Silence is golden sometimes, huh?

And here's something the old-timers taught me way back when that works really well for such things as this. They told me that for two weeks, every night without fail, I was to pray for the person I was feeling badly about, even if I had to choke out the words. I was to pray for that person. asking everything for that person that I wanted for myself. Yeah right! But I did it and it worked. At the end of two weeks, I had a whole new perspective on the whole thing. I still didn't like the person much, but I stayed sober and I was able to be serene and accepting of that person after that. I didn't do it for the person I had a problem with------I did it for my own sobriety and to save my own life because resentments are a sure killer of alcoholics.