39 years a guy relapsed. Can't believe it.
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Originally Posted by Ken33xx 
Yeah, I get the acid was new at the time. And the women and shrinks? Well, whatever.
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how you use the words here makes Bill sound like a right nutter with the people he was mixed up with and all. Leaving aside the womanising as an outside issue, what is left to me is the LSD medical experiments of the time, and the psychiatric doctors who supervised them. Prescribed drugs and medical professionals. Aren't we supposed to leave that to the man and the doctors today?
BTW, I wouldn't call myself a great fan of Bill's. I have been more impressed by the Aakron and Cleveland groups, as I have learned a little of the history.
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Originally Posted by Gottalife
Ken,
how you use the words here makes Bill sound like a right nutter with the people he was mixed up with and all. Leaving aside the womanising as an outside issue, what is left to me is the LSD medical experiments of the time, and the psychiatric doctors who supervised them. Prescribed drugs and medical professionals. Aren't we supposed to leave that to the man and the doctors today?
how you use the words here makes Bill sound like a right nutter with the people he was mixed up with and all. Leaving aside the womanising as an outside issue, what is left to me is the LSD medical experiments of the time, and the psychiatric doctors who supervised them. Prescribed drugs and medical professionals. Aren't we supposed to leave that to the man and the doctors today?
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However, I was surprised to hear a member with time share if they knew their days were number they would get drunk/high because what does it matter?
but isn't this bizarre? are these people really not aware that their days are numbered? don't we all know that?
logically, then, it would never matter.
but isn't this bizarre? are these people really not aware that their days are numbered? don't we all know that?
logically, then, it would never matter.
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Originally Posted by fini
However, I was surprised to hear a member with time share if they knew their days were number they would get drunk/high because what does it matter?
but isn't this bizarre? are these people really not aware that their days are numbered? don't we all know that?
logically, then, it would never matter.
but isn't this bizarre? are these people really not aware that their days are numbered? don't we all know that?
logically, then, it would never matter.
A limited amount of time. For example one member was diagnosed with cancer and told he had six months to live. He died five months later (sober)
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Originally Posted by Fly N Buy
What's the POINT?????????
I am more focused on how I live, today than how I'll croak tomorrow........
I am more focused on how I live, today than how I'll croak tomorrow........
Originally Posted by Music
The woman who passed this along had 30 years, was a Catholic nun at one time and lost it all, ending up on a park bench. Is any alcoholic ever in full control of his mental faculties?
Originally Posted by CousinA
Susan Cheever? She was never a nun and I don't really know her whole story but she's still actively writing. Her last book, Drinking In America was published in 2015. She may have ended up on a park bench at some point, but then so did I.
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Originally Posted by Ken33xx
A limited amount of time. For example one member was diagnosed with cancer and told he had six months to live. He died five months later (sober)
but that doesn't change anything.
we all know we will get to THAT point, too.
it's crazy thinking. addiction-driven thinking.
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Originally Posted by Music
Is any alcoholic ever in full control of his mental faculties?
practicing alcoholics,on the other hand.....
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Originally Posted by Reeks55
I can't believe it I was at a meeting and a shaky old man confessed he relapsed after 39 years. He said "it's only a dat at a time" but I wanna know his thought process leading up to it
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Originally Posted by Db1105
Hopefully you will have another chance to see this gentleman and let us know what happened.. We can speculate, but we really don't know why. I'm in my 38th year. As someone else said, I know I have another drunk in me, I don't know if I have another recovery.
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I've got no problem with AA where people find it helpful to being sober but I don't do one day at a time.
I think each persons life is their individual story and what encourages one person to use won't be the same for another.
We are only accountable to ourselves, when all is said and done, I know I don't drink now, I never drink and never will.
I hope the OP's AA guy has found his way back to his sobriety.
Driving my wagon of hope through beautiful views on my road to myself
I think each persons life is their individual story and what encourages one person to use won't be the same for another.
We are only accountable to ourselves, when all is said and done, I know I don't drink now, I never drink and never will.
I hope the OP's AA guy has found his way back to his sobriety.
Driving my wagon of hope through beautiful views on my road to myself
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Originally Posted by CelticZebra
I've got no problem with AA where people find it helpful to being sober but I don't do one day at a time.
I think each persons life is their individual story and what encourages one person to use won't be the same for another.
We are only accountable to ourselves, when all is said and done, I know I don't drink now, I never drink and never will.
I hope the OP's AA guy has found his way back to his sobriety.
Driving my wagon of hope through beautiful views on my road to myself
I think each persons life is their individual story and what encourages one person to use won't be the same for another.
We are only accountable to ourselves, when all is said and done, I know I don't drink now, I never drink and never will.
I hope the OP's AA guy has found his way back to his sobriety.
Driving my wagon of hope through beautiful views on my road to myself
On the otherhand I would be interested to know if there is a way to live life anyway other than one day at a time. There could be advantages in that if it were possible.
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