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navysteve · 08-09-2009, 04:07 PM

Alcoholics Anonymous in Newspape

shaun00 · 08-09-2009, 04:36 PM

thanks steve....some real interesting reading in there.

AW2486 · 08-09-2009, 04:55 PM

Thanks Steve.. always wanted to read the Jack Alexander article that put AA on the map

navysteve · 08-09-2009, 06:44 PM

I like The Queer Problem A. A. Can't Bottle Up. Alot of similarities between that and other outside issues in AA.

Rob B · 08-09-2009, 07:02 PM

Thanks for the links Steve, there's some good reading and history in there, I just finished the step nine article, can't say that I ageee with it, but that's ok.

FightingIrish · 08-09-2009, 08:33 PM

Hysterical. I'm gay, but I can't say I've met many people like those interviewed in the article outside of a drag show.

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Originally Posted by navysteve

I like The Queer Problem A. A. Can't Bottle Up. Alot of similarities between that and other outside issues in AA.

navysteve · 08-10-2009, 03:12 AM

Me either Rob. I found a few articles that made me utter a few expletives. Then I remembered, like thetwelve and twelve they were mostly one authors views. I just found the collection interesting from a historical perspective. It kinda gives us a view of different issues throughout AA's timeline.

nelco · 08-10-2009, 03:19 AM

wow Thanks Steve your a gem.......I will be reading and reading and reading.

Pagekeeper · 08-10-2009, 07:03 AM

Maybe it's just me, but I thought "The Queer Problem" article was ghastly prejudiced and homophobic. Just embarrassing.

navysteve · 08-10-2009, 07:35 AM

Page,
It is our history. It ain't all pretty. What it shows me is that we have had internal problems throughout our history and by the Grace of God they were handled.

jimhere · 08-10-2009, 09:06 AM

I just the article about queers in AA. I just see it as reflective of the times in which it was written.

I was homophobic when I cam to AA, although I'd never really known any gay people. I had lived in a small town in Oklahoma where the attitude towards gays people, or for that matter, Indians and blacks was much like that in that article. I remember a kid moved to that town and started to school in the high school there. We all thought he was a "queer." Looking back he wasn't, he was just different. I made his life hell while he was at that school. When I went back to make amends, he wasn't around. Hell, he just did what I did and got out of that town as soon as he could.

When I was few years sober I was sponsoring a man, that I knew was gay, but he hadn't told me that he was gay. He was afraid to because then maybe I wouldn't sponsor him (I was a tough, blue-collar, macho logger then). In his Fifth Step it came out And I got the chance to tell him about the kid I couldn't make amends to and how God closed the circle and put him in my life so I could begin to make amends to gay people and that I loved him because he is one of God's kids.

Since then, I can count some gay men and women among my best friends. I would trust my life to my friend Angie who is a lesbian and has more God in her little finger than any of the so-called Christians who would condemn her to hell for being what she is. I know that is a bit of a rant, but reading that article brought up a little of that in me.
Jim

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08-09-2009, 04:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
shaun00 Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: uk Posts: 2,188	thanks steve....some real interesting reading in there.

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navysteve Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,870	I like *The Queer Problem A. A. Can't Bottle Up*. Alot of similarities between that and other outside issues in AA.

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Rob B Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Southern New Hampshire Posts: 747 Blog Entries: 5	Thanks for the links Steve, there's some good reading and history in there, I just finished the step nine article, can't say that I ageee with it, but that's ok.

08-10-2009, 03:12 AM	#7 (permalink)
navysteve Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,870	Me either Rob. I found a few articles that made me utter a few expletives. Then I remembered, like thetwelve and twelve they were mostly one authors views. I just found the collection interesting from a historical perspective. It kinda gives us a view of different issues throughout AA's timeline.

08-10-2009, 03:19 AM	#8 (permalink)
nelco Living in sobriety Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 3,868	wow Thanks Steve your a gem.......I will be reading and reading and reading.

08-10-2009, 07:03 AM	#9 (permalink)
Pagekeeper Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 574	Maybe it's just me, but I thought "The Queer Problem" article was ghastly prejudiced and homophobic. Just embarrassing.

08-10-2009, 07:35 AM	#10 (permalink)
navysteve Member Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 1,870	Page, It is our history. It ain't all pretty. What it shows me is that we have had internal problems throughout our history and by the Grace of God they were handled.

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jimhere Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pugetopolis Posts: 2,392	I just the article about queers in AA. I just see it as reflective of the times in which it was written. I was homophobic when I cam to AA, although I'd never really known any gay people. I had lived in a small town in Oklahoma where the attitude towards gays people, or for that matter, Indians and blacks was much like that in that article. I remember a kid moved to that town and started to school in the high school there. We all thought he was a "queer." Looking back he wasn't, he was just different. I made his life hell while he was at that school. When I went back to make amends, he wasn't around. Hell, he just did what I did and got out of that town as soon as he could. When I was few years sober I was sponsoring a man, that I knew was gay, but he hadn't told me that he was gay. He was afraid to because then maybe I wouldn't sponsor him (I was a tough, blue-collar, macho logger then). In his Fifth Step it came out And I got the chance to tell him about the kid I couldn't make amends to and how God closed the circle and put him in my life so I could begin to make amends to gay people and that I loved him because he is one of God's kids. Since then, I can count some gay men and women among my best friends. I would trust my life to my friend Angie who is a lesbian and has more God in her little finger than any of the so-called Christians who would condemn her to hell for being what she is. I know that is a bit of a rant, but reading that article brought up a little of that in me. Jim

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