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Old 10-24-2008, 02:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Imagine life without faith!

"Imagine life without faith! Were nothing left but pure reason, it wouldn't be life. But we believed in life - of course we did. We could not prove life in the sense that you can prove a straight line is the shortest distance between two points: yet, there it was. Could we still say the whole thing was nothing but a mass of electrons, created out of nothing, meaning nothing, whirling on to a destiny of nothingness? Of course we couldn't. The electrons themselves seemed more intelligent than that. At least, so the chemist said."
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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They say fear is faith that's said it's prayers.

It's been nearly 2 years for me since I was diagnosed with MS and sometimes I wonder if it is navie hope that keeps me going or faith.

When I am in a good mood I think it is faith and when I am in a bad mood I think it is navie optimism.

I was 8 years sober when I was diagnosed with MS and in the last 2 years I have had more thoughts of drinking and/or using as well as dreams of doing this, since maybe my first year of soberity.

The worst day was probably xmas 06 as I'd had an allergic reaction to the meds they gave me and one of my eyes had swollen shut. I'd also ended a relationship I was in as there was no way it could continue with my bad health and put my house on the market. I was also struggling about what to do with my business I had started. My daughter and myself also had a huge argument in the morning. So it was a real merry xmas.

But I was at my parents house, they were drinking wine, and the only thing that stopped me was I knew my parents wouldn't give me any so there was no point asking or even helping myself as they would have had a fit. They know what I was like as my daughter went to live with them at the end of my drinking. And my Mum went to Al Anon.

From memory, after that, I went home (had to be driven as by that stage I couldn't drive either) and I spent the afternoon lying on my bed, crying and sleeping.

I think about the situation I was in on xmas day and I see it as God looking after me as I was in no postion at all to look after myself. I also usually resent the fact that my folks are 'controlling' but for me on that day, it was a God send.

I often hear in AA, God loves little children and drunks.
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:25 PM   #3 (permalink)
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think you made an ooopsy liz
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Old 10-24-2008, 04:53 PM   #4 (permalink)
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:ghug2

Lol

Thanks

You may won't believe this but MS causes that kind of stuff....
it's a form of dyslexia. It's call preslexia or something and is to do with my brian being unable to process and put out information the way it is meant too.

I get numbers back to front too. I.e something is $298 and I read it $892
And I also confuse simple words like there and their.
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The electrons themselves seemed more intelligent than that. At least, so the chemist said."
When scientists attempt to measure an electrons velocity, they end up changing it's position. When they attempt to measure it's position, they end up changing it's velocity.

This is the foundation of "Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle". Which says that there are limits to human knowledge that even science can't overcome. Some things are simply unknowable and faith is all that we are left with.

When Einstein was asked if there was anything that was not relevant, his answer was:

"There are only two things of which I am certain. There is a God and I am not him."
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I believe the last years of my drinking I lived with no Faith.It was the most miserable time of my life...
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