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scaredykat · 07-24-2008, 03:04 PM

I'm a little late on this poll, but i definitely don't believe the first 164 pgs of the big book should be changed or the 12 steps. There the foundation of this program.

For AA as a whole. I have no opinion. I personal think change is good for anything to keep growing.

LogCabin · 07-24-2008, 10:42 PM

It took me a long time to realize it is a simple program, but I was a complicated person. Once I was able to really let go some of my thinking flaws...the program started to work for me in a great way.

As an addict...a person who gets stuck repeating a behavior over and over again...getting into AA helped me replace negative behavior with positive behavior. Hearing the same thing over and over again...is HELPFUL to me. (And I never would have thought that!)

I think that if someone has a really strong roadblock up around AA then they should try SMART recovery. And if they put up a road block to that program...well then, perhaps that person has too many roadblocks in themselves.

Yes...I get turned off by the "Him, He" God. I just do a little mental translation in my head, and move on. And I enjoy holding onto my one remaining punkish defiance by never uttering the word "God" in a meeting. Or saying the Lord's prayer. I enjoy feeling of defiant over that one. But I do listen to the words, and do see them as a source of comfort. Heck, it's my way of not feeling zombie-like, and causes no harm. And I can laugh at my silliness about it. And I don't want to be rude and just walk out. I am there for the unity of the group. An Atheist can still want peace, serenity, love, honesty, happiness, and hope in her life.

And yes...all the meetings have different personalities. Keep looking till you find one that works for you.

Reading "Came To Beleive" while in rehab that last time was eye-opening to me. It had stories from a full spectrum of beliefs. And it helped me finally feel apart. Even Atheists were able to write in that book. WOW! We really can all be a part of the program. And I no longer felt judged. And I felt like I had a right to my own HP definition with no more guilt.

AA/NA works. And it works because it speaks the language of alcoholism and addiction. (They really are the same in my mind...just different chemicals and different trips..but all the same in the emotional-journey-results.)

View Poll Results: Should AA change?
Definately, AA needs to keep up with times therefor needs to change	5	10.20%
The basics such as the 12 Steps/12 Traditions should not be changed.	23	46.94%
No way. Change dilutes the program causing it to be ineffective	21	42.86%
No opinion; undecided; unsure; etc....	2	4.08%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

07-24-2008, 03:04 PM	#51 (permalink)
scaredykat Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Upstate, N.Y. Posts: 3,371 Blog Entries: 5	I'm a little late on this poll, but i definitely don't believe the first 164 pgs of the big book should be changed or the 12 steps. There the foundation of this program. For AA as a whole. I have no opinion. I personal think change is good for anything to keep growing. __________________ Sobriety Date: Jan 19, 2008

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07-24-2008, 10:42 PM	#52 (permalink)
LogCabin Seriously Fun! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: California coast Posts: 418	It took me a long time to realize it is a simple program, but I was a complicated person. Once I was able to really let go some of my thinking flaws...the program started to work for me in a great way. As an addict...a person who gets stuck repeating a behavior over and over again...getting into AA helped me replace negative behavior with positive behavior. Hearing the same thing over and over again...is HELPFUL to me. (And I never would have thought that!) I think that if someone has a really strong roadblock up around AA then they should try SMART recovery. And if they put up a road block to that program...well then, perhaps that person has too many roadblocks in themselves. Yes...I get turned off by the "Him, He" God. I just do a little mental translation in my head, and move on. And I enjoy holding onto my one remaining punkish defiance by never uttering the word "God" in a meeting. Or saying the Lord's prayer. I enjoy feeling of defiant over that one. But I do listen to the words, and do see them as a source of comfort. Heck, it's my way of not feeling zombie-like, and causes no harm. And I can laugh at my silliness about it. And I don't want to be rude and just walk out. I am there for the unity of the group. An Atheist can still want peace, serenity, love, honesty, happiness, and hope in her life. And yes...all the meetings have different personalities. Keep looking till you find one that works for you. Reading "Came To Beleive" while in rehab that last time was eye-opening to me. It had stories from a full spectrum of beliefs. And it helped me finally feel apart. Even Atheists were able to write in that book. WOW! We really can all be a part of the program. And I no longer felt judged. And I felt like I had a right to my own HP definition with no more guilt. AA/NA works. And it works because it speaks the language of alcoholism and addiction. (They really are the same in my mind...just different chemicals and different trips..but all the same in the emotional-journey-results.)

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